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[Pokemon GO!] how much exp is a pidgey?

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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-15 19:22:56
July 15 2016 19:18 GMT
#1
We've all done pidgey farming to boost our levels, it would be nice to know exactly how much exp you can get out of a pidgey. So here's a quick post calculating this number, and hopefully you find it useful.

A pidgey provides 100 exp flat when you catch it, that's the base amount if we ignore good throws.

A pidgey contributes 4 candies to evolution (you sell it for 1 extra). An evolution of a pidgey costs 12 candies, but you get a bonus candy when you evolve it.

Thus, you actually need only 11 candies for evolving (in some hand-wavy argument). Each pidgey still provides 4 candies, so the experience gained per pidgey is:

500 / (11 / 4) = 182 exp

Combined with the 100 base exp, we're looking at a very good amount of experience of 282 exp. If you use lucky egg with pidgey, you end up with 464 experience.

Compare that with a ratata, which takes 25 candies to evolve. Each ratata would gain only 83 extra experience from evolving, and each ratata 183 exp. If you evolve ratatas with lucky eggs, you only get 266 experience. Compare 266 to the 464 exp gain of a pidgey, we see pidgey is far superior.

The formula for computing exp gain from evolution if a pokemon uses #candy to evolve
500 / ( (#candies - 1) / 4 )

The fact you can use the formula presented here is not entirely obvious, essentially it is only true when you catch a lot of pidgeys. Below is a link to a script I created, which would be helpful for you to see how many exp you can expect to get from catching a certain amount of pokemons (combined exp of catching and evolving, where evolving can be combined with lucky egg). Edit the caught list however you like, and hit run to get the results.

https://repl.it/Cc0d/0

How much exp is a magic carp?
caught = [(1, 400)]
it gives you only 105 experience, that's a mere 5 more over the base rate. I suppose the garydos is worth it though.

To manually derive the exp gain of a pidgey from evolving, we show it is possible to evolve 4 times with only 11 pidgeys. i.e. 2000 exp / 11 = 182 exp per pidgey


Consider the following scenario:

You just caught 11 pdigeys.
You go up to me, and say "hey Evan, I got 11 pidgeys here that I want to evolve, but I need some help. I need to borrow 4 pidgey candies"
And to which I reply "Sure thing. Make sure to give them back though"

As you can see, as long as you borrow the candies and gave them back to me, you can pretend the cost of evolving your pidgeys is entirely dependent on the pidgeys you caught, and not dependent on the candies I lend you nor anything else. The candies are just there to start the process.

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Hope this helps! Happy farming.

But help! My pidgeys all have 300+ CP and I waste 6 balls trying to even get any! When farming exp through catching pidgeys become painful, you can consider farming pokestops if you live in a dense enough area. Consider these 2 previous blog posts:
http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/511601-pokemon-go-alternative-high-level-exp-farming
http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/511646-pokemon-go-lure-farming-vs-pokestop-farming

Cheers!
--evan

p.s.
again, if you like this post, subscribe to my youtube channel and take a look at my totally unrelated cooking videos:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSspGV5tkNJ9q_ZCboYzTcQ
and take a trip to the grocery while catching the pidgeys! :D
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
July 17 2016 00:45 GMT
#2
yeah i tried it today and there was one on the bed right infront of me wtf
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Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-18 06:39:30
July 18 2016 06:37 GMT
#3
http://www.pidgeycalc.com/

After level 20 it really makes no sense to try to grind XP. The amount of XP needed to level up is insane. Just play to have fun. Go for a run or a bike ride to hatch your eggs. Check what pokemon you can find when you visit a different part of town.
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
July 18 2016 12:13 GMT
#4
On July 18 2016 15:37 Bigtony wrote:
http://www.pidgeycalc.com/

After level 20 it really makes no sense to try to grind XP. The amount of XP needed to level up is insane. Just play to have fun. Go for a run or a bike ride to hatch your eggs. Check what pokemon you can find when you visit a different part of town.


i've seen the calculator yeah it just runs the simulation but it never theoretically solved for now much exp IS an actual pidgey, which is what I did here, with proof using fixed points.

You should read my previous 2 blog posts on how to grind exp using pokestops, it is basically the end game. I'm lvl 22 right now and I think I can grind it all the way to lvl 30 using nothing but pokestops and lucky eggs.

Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10683 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-18 19:36:47
July 18 2016 19:35 GMT
#5
My town is suddenly full of assholes pointing their phones at nothong, would it be ok to kick them in their balls while they aren't paying attentipn?

Btw: as i wad told i live in/on some kind of pokestop/shop, no idea, hate.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
July 19 2016 01:57 GMT
#6
GO is currently a good common grounds to meet strangers and get a convo. going. like school.
you could just go up and ask what it's all about or why they're there, since you obviously don't play yourself.
seems to me you're finding a random thread about pokemon GO to vent.

that's cool, or you could let it burn down on its own if you really don't believe in it.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
July 19 2016 17:08 GMT
#7
haha let him be xD
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
August 01 2016 19:15 GMT
#8
Btw, can u go back to the kitchen and produce some quality conten... eeeh food?
veggy pls thx bai

Ur paper is too hard for my brain btw. Still struggling
passive quaranstream fan
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