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A history of Liquipedia



Preamble


A lot of people know the Liquipedia we have today. Covering 8 games at this point, it proves to be a great resource for all things esports, being imitated by other people and organizations countless times (Esportspedia, Gamepedia, etc…). Not too many people know how it all started though. How it was pronounced dead, how it only barely wasn’t closed down before it even saw the light of day, or how a few individuals time and time again set out to shape the community project we have today. As much of a community driven site Liquipedia is nowadays, as much it relied on key individual people to step up and start the projects that shaped the wikis into what they are.
I have read up on a lot of history of Liquipedia, as a lot of this can be found in staff forums, and I figured I might as well share it with the public as it may be interesting to some, how this project came along. Note that I myself only joined Liquipedia in early January 2013, so a lot of this I got over time from reconstructing things from the forums and talking to people that were involved.

An idea


The very first idea of a TL wiki comes around in May 2006. Whilst the idea sparks some interest, not much seems to have come from it.

Honest beginnings


Go mid-2007, the Team Liquid Progaming Database (TLPD) is developed and already in Beta, but the wiki idea is still in the heads of people. In November a wiki gets put up, although not on its own subdomain yet, but on the main teamliquid.net page as www.teamliquid.net/liquipedia_beta. The idea is not a publicly editable wiki, but a wiki that can only get update by staff and selected users that were given access. The idea to create a wiki-like sub-forum is tossed around, but in the end MediaWiki, the software behind Wikipedia, Wikia, and a lot of other wiki projects is used from the start. To this day, Liquipedia is still running from this software, although it changed a lot over the years and we added a lot of customization to it. Nazgul is one of the first to actively state the opinion to open up editing of the wiki to the public, but he is outvoted.
The reach of the wiki is quite different from today. It is intended as a Brood War Strategy wiki, and initially only Strategy articles are added. This lays the foundation of Liquipedia being the go to resource for StarCraft Brood War strategy. Pages for players, teams, leagues and tournaments are not considered to be part of Liquipedia, but said to be more appropriate as content on the forums. However this is heavily discussed within staff and not quite finalized.
As people start exploring the possibilities of MediaWiki, more and more strategy articles are added. In March 2008 a post in the staff forums gets put up in search for a logo as people feel like they are in the final turns of finishing the wiki.
Pachi designs this logo, however it is only in the wiki for a very short time.
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Xeofreestyler designs the first Liquipedia logo that will go live later, which is a globe, closely resembling Wikipedia’s logo, which can still be found as user icon of some of the very early Liquipedia staff members. As a side note: The first version of the Liquipedia logo had the common typo of "Liquidpedia" in there, this whole thing already started before the wiki even went live.
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The wiki however unbeknownst to the early contributors from staff is far from being released. There are threads made to promote Liquipedia once it goes live, parts of which are actually used later on.

Downfall


Throughout 2008 staff and veteran TL users keep filling the wiki, but from week to week work gets slower. Communication in the team is lacking, people are waiting for other people to do stuff, and coordination within the team is missing. In November Plexa puts up a post outlining the problem and putting it up for discussion. Scrapping the whole project is discussed as a viable option, as well as just putting the very unfinished product out like it is or starting an actual core Liquipedia staff team from the people contributing to it so far. Putting the project to the trash is an opinion clearly favored by a lot of teamliquid.net staff members, and Plexa sends out PMs to key contributors to ask for their opinions.
Said key contributors however are in favor to actually create a Liquipedia forum and want to keep going with the project, and this is what happens. Another sidenote: A lot of these key contributors later on were either Liquipedia staff or went on to be staff in other sections on the site.

Getting going again


With the new Liquipedia forum, work speeds up again. With communication in the team on an all-time high, people are motivated and are actually pushing out multiple builds a day (the wiki is still primarily a strategy wiki). The first half of 2009 is the most active part of the pre-release phase with people challenging each other to put out content, discussing what to do and when to do said things. The early Liquipedia staff begins to shape from the most involved contributors like Aesop, cgrinker and GHOSTCLAW. With the StarCraft II Beta coming up, a StarCraft II Liquipedia is first discussed. In March it is decided to open up editing to the public at release, in the same month the domain wiki.teamliquid.net is chosen over alternatives like starcraftwiki.net.

The release


June 5th marks the release of Liquipedia. It was finally ready, the wiki is opened up to the public. After more than two years of working on something that the contributors were not even sure would ever be released, they finally saw their work published. For the first months of Liquipedia being live Plexa is the head of Liquipedia.
The following month is a grind. The wiki expands very quickly, from about 300 pages at release to over 700 pages three weeks later. The Liquipedia staff consists of only 4 people at this point (Aesop who is the head of Liquipedia starting October 2009, cgrinker, GHOSTCLAW, and mikeymoo). The wiki starts to expand into articles about pro gamers, teams, and tournaments. The wiki is more and more becoming a general StarCraft resource. In order to get quality content Liquipedia hosts Q & A shows with pro gamers and personalities like NonY and Day[9], which gather quite some interest from the community.
The "Why Haven't You Edited Liquipedia Yet?" post in the Brood War strategy forum on teamliquid.net proves to be a success to flesh out the strategy section on the Brood War wiki.

A new game emerges


With the StarCraft II beta starting in early 2010, there is also work happening regarding a Liquipedia for the new game. Work had begun even before the beta started, and the StarCraft II wiki is released on 8th March 2010. With the StarCraft Brood War wiki on track and the new wiki, not only the size of the wiki gets bigger and bigger, but also the number of staffers. Interestingly the new wiki benefits a lot from the work that was done on the Brood War wiki, as a lot of the things can carry over without much change, this is soon to change and it starts to go the other way round. As the StarCraft II wiki takes off, new code is developed for the new wiki first and later ported back to the Brood War wiki. A trend that we have later seen with other new wikis again and again. As new wikis bring in new people, these new people usually also bring new ideas. With the new wiki also came the first version of the splash page that is directly at wiki.teamliquid.net. It features the two logos of the wikis as well as a search field.

A new look


Since the release of the StarCraft II wiki, the wiki had a similar skin to the Brood War wiki. It had different colors and a "futuristic" background image, but the base was the same. In February 2011 things change though. The StarCraft II wiki is getting a whole new look and feel. The Brood War wiki however remains with the original skin, keeping the original look and feel. The new skin for the StarCraft II wiki later on gets many siblings with different colors that run on the later wiki additions.

The race


Whilst Liquipedia is a great resource already, it tends to prove its value most during big events. By August 2011, who gets their edit in first for the results of live games has turned into a race. Staff hardly participates in this race anymore, instead most of this is done by regular users (blahz0r was most often the winner). For MLG Anaheim in 2011, each of the tournaments pages gets over 250.000 views in a single weekend. By now Liquipedia is more successful than anyone had ever dreamed off before it was released. Tournament organizers, pro gamers, community sites and fans alike link to Liquipedia when any StarCraft related question pops up.

Coins


In early March 2011 teamliquid.net sees the first release of Liquipedia Coins. In an attempt to make wiki contributions more visible, every contributor gets coins at the bottom right of their forum posts that show the amount of work they put into the wiki. Whilst the first couple levels are easy to achieve, the later coin levels require a lot of work to be done. The exact formula will change slightly over the years (with one slightly more significant change with the launch of LiquidDota’s gold store), but the idea always remains the same: Do stuff on Liquipedia, earn coins. The concept is highly appreciated within the wiki contributors group, and soon people try to create Top-X lists of top contributors (and people also started to beg staff to get gold coins from pretty much day one).

Bracket Contests


A new tradition was started in March 2011. With the Team Liquid’s own TSL 3 tournament (the first one in SC2) around the corner, Liquipedia staff are asked by other TL staff if they could host a bracket contest. The contest goes so well* (over 3000 participants) that it is decided to do it again at later times. Since participants have to fill the bracket as a wiki template, people get to see how the internals of the wikis look like. Several new staff members and other really important contributors began their editing career with this bracket contest.
(*The servers did crash for two hours when the first results were to go live… we still blame salle to this day).

Going international


With the wiki expanding, different ways to grow the wikis are being explored. One of them: Internationalized articles. The two wikis are not English only anymore, but instead a lot of pages are translated into different languages. Unfortunately the wikis can’t attract enough people to maintain it. The project eventually gets stopped, and the internationalized pages are removed.

New brackets


In September 2011, the bracket templates were redone. One of the most important template families on the wiki was completely swapped out. Liquipedia had completely relied on Wikipedia's bracket templates until that point which was constructed of tables where three rows were spanned to make a single cell, so if something went to two lines inside the cell the whole bracket broke in very unexpected and horrible ways, but from there on had its own brackets. To this day our bracket templates are the most copied templates on other esport wikis. These new bracket templates not only looked better than the old ones, the also brought new functionality. The bracket popups that are standard on Liquipedia nowadays were introduced together with these new brackets and replaced the old match-lists below the brackets.

A forum for Liquipedia


With the Liquipedia project growing bigger, talk pages prove to not be good enough for cross wiki developments. A Liquipedia Contributors Forum is started, giving every contributor with at least a silver coin access to a discussion platform regarding the wiki. The new forum is primarily used to get to know each other, help each other with a simple questions simple answers thread, bounce ideas for how to update or make completely new templates, and to coordinate cross wiki standards. It is also used to discuss the future of the project, like which wikis to expand to. Over the years great things start in the contributors forum, including major template overhauls like the cross table templates, the mobile adaption of a lot of templates or various bigger updating projects. Liquipedia movie nights and other community events like a team playing in StarCraft II team leagues starts here as well.

Expanding again


With the Brood War wiki and the StarCraft II wiki well on track, the contributors explore adding new wikis. Two new wikis were set up around May 2012, but with time constraints being in place only one of them ever sees the light of day. On August 29th, Liquipedia launches its third wiki, the Dota 2 Liquipedia. From the start the wiki is in heavy competition. Multiple Dota 2 wikis already exist. For a long time, the Dota 2 wiki struggles with updates, but over time it is getting better and better. Eventually the Dota 2 wiki gets to a similar state as the StarCraft II wiki over the years, but a lot of work is put into it in order to not have to close it down. As much as the Dota 2 wiki is a success, the League of Legends wiki which was put on the shelf until the Dota 2 wiki was launched is not taken off the shelf since there’s already an esports oriented LoL wiki.

New leadership


As Aesop, the head of Liquipedia, is more and more busy with real life obligations, it becomes clear that he is not able to lead the project to the extend necessarily to grow the project and bring it forward. In June 2012, a new head of Liquipedia is assigned and salle takes over the lead of the project. Being the most active staffer at the time, he is the logical choice to take over. His first project is to finish the Dota 2 wiki that is already well underway at the time he takes over the project lead. Aesop who lead the project for close to three years still occasionally drops by to this day.

Forming brand identity


By May 2012, Liquipedia still has the Wikipedia inspired globe logo. It becomes clear that Liquipedia needs more of its own brand, an initiative is started to get a distinct logo for Liquipedia. Until the new logo is launched in November of the same year, tens if not over a hundred versions of different logos are created. The idea of the puzzle piece is first mentioned by the new head of Liquipedia and the final design of the puzzle piece is done by fusefuse. In August the new logo launches and has been the Liquipedia logo ever since. Other ideas for the logo that were not chosen include a puzzle-Team Liquid logo, orange horse puzzle pieces and a puzzle piece cube with StarCraft logos.

Restructuring staff


Early 2013 holds news for the Liquipedia staff. For the first time in the history of the Liquipedia project, the staffers have actual administrator rights on the wikis. Before that, staff was technically only users that was privileged in discussion with access to the staff forums, now they actually can do maintenance work like deleting pages.

Mobile internet


Throughout 2013, the mobile skin that is on the wiki until 2016* is first put up on the wiki. In the beginning a lot of stuff does not work, but eventually the bugs are ironed out. The wiki still looks very rough on mobile though, a lot of the core templates like tabs, info boxes and brackets are not even remotely mobile ready. It is a start though, and over the following two years a lot of these templates were one by one made mobile ready.
(*TBA )

New wikis


At the end of 2013 the Liquipedia community looked into starting new wikis again. A Hearthstone wiki is set up in October 2013, the Heroes of the Storm wiki just a month later. By the time the Hearthstone wiki launches on May 31st 2014, a Smash wiki has been started as well. The Smash wiki launches on June 19th 2014, the Heroes of the Storm wiki finally launches on November 6th 2014. All three wikis struggle to find contributors in the early days, but especially Heroes of the Storm and the Smash wiki take off after a while. New contributors come in and templates that were written for these new wikis later gets ported back to the Brood War, StarCraft II and Dota 2 wikis. The majority of the year is spent to get the three wikis running, getting contributors for them and testing new ideas on the new wikis.

Color blind mode


With realizing that the wikis are pretty hard to read for color blind people, a user script is developed by Chapatiyaq to allow color blind people to properly discern the color coded things on the wiki. Especially color coding the played races in the StarCraft brackets is important there, as the colors for Protoss (green) and Random (yellow) are very hard to distinguish.

Semantic MediaWiki


With the new wikis also comes new technology, and Liquipedia starts to adopt the Semantic MediaWiki extension on the wiki. This new extension allows to use parts of Liquipedia as a database, and especially the esports parts of the wikis profit a lot from this new development. It is now possible to query stuff like total earnings or map statistics directly from the wiki pages, without the need of external software. A number of talented coders takes it upon themselves to rewrite a good number of templates using this new technology, allowing to create templates that make editing for the contributors even easier. Especially the Hearthstone wiki gets a fairly complete setup of SMW as a very new wiki that isn’t too big but a lot of interesting new uses were explored for it.

A new look… again


As more and more wikis are added, the Brood War wiki with the older skin looks more and more out of place compared to the newer wikis that all just share different color versions of the same skin. With this in mind and emerging problems on porting templates between the wikis, a new skin project is started in October 2014. Originally only intended to be a merger between the skins, it becomes clear pretty fast, that a complete rewrite of the design is the way to go. A lot of mockups are made with varying degrees of outside-the-box thinking, which eventually lead to a very different layout. At the time of writing this new skin is still in beta, but can already be tested on the wikis (log in and check your settings).

Another management shift


By January 2015, the whole project had become so big, a single head of Liquipedia was not enough anymore. The two biggest wikis (StarCraft II and Dota 2) get their own heads in Chapatiyaq and Tephus in order to allow salle to concentrate his efforts more on the smaller and especially developing wikis.

A wiki for the files


With the wiki getting bigger and bigger, and a lot of files that are used on multiple wikis, the idea of a file wiki is first discussed in February 2015. Descending from the Wikimedia Commons project which is part of Wikipedia, a similar approach is taken by the Liquipedia project. After lots of testing and delays due to the Counter-Strike wiki, the file wiki goes live a year later in February 2016. The whole of over 30000 files gets moved in a concentrated effort over the course of a month, largely without affecting the running wikis. The whole Liquipedia Commons project is a showcase of the bigger and bigger usage of wiki bots on the Liquipedia wikis, which has grown over the 2014 and 2015.

Going new ways


Also starting in February 2015 is the work on the Counter-Strike Liquipedia. Partnering with two already existing Counter-Strike wikis first with clanwiki.nu and later also with kniferound.net. Liquipedia initially is a merge between these two wikis. This is a first for Liquipedia, as it is the first time that a Liquipedia wiki is not started from scratch. With the combined effort of the contributors of all three wikis, the merge is mostly done by the release at June 11th 2015. It proves to be relatively easy as the two wikis are largely based on the Liquipedia format, which by this time is also adapted by wikis in other games like Esportspedia and Gamepedia (which have their own very interesting intertwined history). The Counter-Strike wiki quickly grows into one of the larger wikis of the Liquipedia project, gathering most edits per month of all of the wikis.

Watching for new games


The eighth game wiki in the Liquipedia project is started in October 2015 in form of an Overwatch wiki. The new Blizzard title still being in alpha, the wiki is started very early. With not too much information available yet, the wiki sees a fast release on November 14th in the same year, being updated with all the tournaments from the start.

A view in the future


Adding new wikis is being discussed again. No one knows yet which wikis Liquipedia might add in the future, but the discussion on which games the contributors want to add is always ongoing. The new skin is as mentioned before still being worked on, to replace the old skins that just are not as good for mobile as we would want them to be. There are a lot of ideas about new things to add to the wikis that are not quite ready to be announced yet. There is always stuff to do, and there are more people doing stuff right now than ever before. That does not mean that Liquipedia couldn’t use even more people though. The more people help out, the better the content will be, more awesome features, etc..

Liquipedia in numbers


By the time of this writing, Liquipedia has amassed quite a lot of history and part of this history can fairly easily be measured.
Since the start the Liquipedia contributors created over 33 000 articles, used over 31 000 images, more than 25 000 people contributed to the wikis doing only a couple thousand shy of two million edits (1 969 198).
In the last 30 days alone 40 000 edits were made, so that the two millionth edit should happen within the next 4 weeks.
43 people made full wiki staff since the start, six of which made red name status and eight of which made blue name status on teamliquid.net. The only bigger staff group within teamliquid.net is the Writers section. The full list of all Liquipedia staff can be found on the wiki here.
The Liquipedia IRC chat goes by hundreds of lines every day and has proven to be an irreplaceable resource for communication around the Liquipedia wikis.

Conclusion


The whole idea of an esports wiki will be 10 years old this coming May. No one could have foreseen the growth and the success that Liquipedia has had. These 10 years have seen both ups and downs, have seen the contributors growing beyond themselves, but also has seen the project close to being shut down. The Liquipedia story is a success in the eyes of a lot of people, but it is a success that only happened thanks to the hard work of hundreds of dedicated people. If not for new people time and time again coming in with new and fresh ideas and evolving the wiki to be even greater, and from older contributors keeping up the mostly thankless work of updating results and patch changes the Liquipedia we know today would not have come to be.
This post is not only to record the history of the Liquipedia project, but also to give thanks and praise all of the people that have put in countless hours of work into making it happen, this post is to document that great things happen from hard work and dedication, and this post is to make sure it is not forgotten where Liquipedia came from and how it got to where it is.
Lots of people do not realize the amount of work that has gone in to make Liquipedia what it is today, and that is a shame. I hope this posts will shed some light on the awesome people that made all of this happen.



Writer, CSS: FO-nTTaX
Banner Gfx, Editor and fact checking: salle



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Administrator@FO_nTTaX | FO-nTTaX.de | 0xff0000.dev | Senior Lead Liquipedia Developer
"Nimm es. Es ist nicht viel, aber es kommt von Herzen. Vergiss mich nicht!"
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 16:43:58
March 16 2016 16:40 GMT
#2
Cool banner

Also only gfx credit T_T

Also the bracket contest problems people can read about in my first blog if they're interested.

Awesome work digging through all the history and writing this. \Ü/

EDIT: 5/7
Administrator"Ambitious but rubbish!" - Jeremy Clarkson
ChapatiyaqPTSM
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1887 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 21:12:54
March 16 2016 17:12 GMT
#3
A Liquipedia blog \Ü/ And an awesome one. 5/5

The people who saved the wiki from being scrapped are heroes
LiquipediaBoy, these pretzels are makin' me thirsty.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50110 Posts
March 16 2016 17:12 GMT
#4
Lickypiddy best piddy!

5/7 would recommend.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
March 16 2016 17:17 GMT
#5
Liquipe-what?
Never heard of that! (except maybe a couple time a day )

Nice read!
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States970 Posts
March 16 2016 18:37 GMT
#6
Thank you to all of the major and minor liquipedia editors. Liquipedia has become a tool I know I couldn't live without.

Here's to another 10 years of great record-keeping!
Ok Starcraft 2 Commentator
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 16 2016 19:36 GMT
#7
Very informative!
minigwar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States33 Posts
March 16 2016 19:36 GMT
#8
Very cool writeup!
cannabis is king
tolkienfanatic
Profile Joined February 2015
United States110 Posts
March 16 2016 20:00 GMT
#9
The Counter-Strike wiki quickly grows into one of the larger wikis of the Liquipedia project, gathering most edits per month of all of the wikis.


Never underestimate what can be accomplished with no sleep, lots of alcohol, and four different chat applications.
Liquipedia@tolkienfanatic | Skype: tolkienfanatic | Liquipedia Staff | HLTV Staff | CS/FGC/RL
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
March 16 2016 20:17 GMT
#10
i want a bronze coin, no idea if im well on track tho ^^
Broodwar for life!
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
March 16 2016 20:22 GMT
#11
you can make like one or two silvers in a day, really not hard to do
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4928 Posts
March 16 2016 20:23 GMT
#12
On March 17 2016 05:17 Cele wrote:
i want a bronze coin, no idea if im well on track tho ^^

Looking at your contributions you shouldn't be far away
Get a silver coins and join the not so secret Liquipedia contributors forum ^^
Administrator@FO_nTTaX | FO-nTTaX.de | 0xff0000.dev | Senior Lead Liquipedia Developer
"Nimm es. Es ist nicht viel, aber es kommt von Herzen. Vergiss mich nicht!"
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
March 16 2016 21:05 GMT
#13
yay <3 liquipedia
T P Z sagi
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
March 16 2016 22:20 GMT
#14
i lack the knowledge to contribute to many pages and the expertise with all that damn code for others :D
But i update the events i know about; it's fine like it is, really :D

Much love for you diehard Liquipedians :>
Broodwar for life!
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37017 Posts
March 16 2016 22:41 GMT
#15
I wish I could rate this 6/5. That's how awesome Liquipedia is.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4928 Posts
March 16 2016 23:07 GMT
#16
On March 17 2016 07:20 Cele wrote:
i lack the knowledge to contribute to many pages and the expertise with all that damn code for others :D
But i update the events i know about; it's fine like it is, really :D

Much love for you diehard Liquipedians :>

Feel free to join our IRC chat if you want to learn about all the things http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=#liquipedia
Administrator@FO_nTTaX | FO-nTTaX.de | 0xff0000.dev | Senior Lead Liquipedia Developer
"Nimm es. Es ist nicht viel, aber es kommt von Herzen. Vergiss mich nicht!"
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 16 2016 23:13 GMT
#17
Great blog, thanks to everyone of the Liquipedia staff and to everyone who work to make it the wonderful place that it is.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
March 17 2016 00:41 GMT
#18
Hearthstone wiki needs love, too! hopefully I'll be back at it again after uni slows down, but every cardslinging secret paladin or face hunter player should come and make a page or two as a community service.

To another 10 years!
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
Petrosidius
Profile Joined March 2016
United States10 Posts
March 17 2016 00:43 GMT
#19
Awesome, a huge database of knowledge for the ages. I just wish they also had league. I use liquipedia for all the games I follow but have to go to lol.esportspedia.com for league.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
March 17 2016 03:07 GMT
#20
Praise be to liquidpedia
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BeStFAN
Profile Blog Joined April 2015
483 Posts
March 17 2016 03:35 GMT
#21
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
March 17 2016 05:29 GMT
#22
I was just asking Emu a week or two ago how Liquipedia got started and wanted to know more about it. <3 for taking the time to write this out. I find it really interesting
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-17 06:28:32
March 17 2016 06:28 GMT
#23
So who chose to name it Liquipedia over Liquidpedia ?
Liquipedia"Expert"
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
March 17 2016 06:52 GMT
#24
On March 17 2016 15:28 Inflicted wrote:
So who chose to name it Liquipedia over Liquidpedia ?

Someone smart imo.
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
March 17 2016 08:16 GMT
#25
liquipedia is a god gift
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
March 17 2016 08:29 GMT
#26
On March 17 2016 15:52 Valiver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2016 15:28 Inflicted wrote:
So who chose to name it Liquipedia over Liquidpedia ?

Someone smart imo.

Some graphic-designer with lack of Ds

Nice writeup! Most of the time I'm contributing in the "races" So don't know how far a silver coin is away with that, would love to see the secret society
There can only be one Geisterkarle
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3342 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-17 09:07:47
March 17 2016 09:06 GMT
#27
Glory, glory, glory to the hypnotoad Liquipedia, to people who created it and kept it alive and well all these years!

great read! 10/10
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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5585 Posts
March 17 2016 12:08 GMT
#28
Good read, kudos to all contributors!

LP best LP!
don't wall off against random
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4928 Posts
March 17 2016 12:36 GMT
#29
On March 17 2016 14:29 OmniEulogy wrote:
I was just asking Emu a week or two ago how Liquipedia got started and wanted to know more about it. <3 for taking the time to write this out. I find it really interesting

talk about timing xD
Usually you will be better off talking to Liquipedia staff if you want to know about Liquipedia ^^
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"Nimm es. Es ist nicht viel, aber es kommt von Herzen. Vergiss mich nicht!"
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
March 17 2016 14:12 GMT
#30
Piddy hype!

Nice to get the whole story

A bit sad I didn't join earlier, it's been really great to contribute, not going to stop!
LiquipediaWanderer
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
March 17 2016 15:27 GMT
#31
Great read :D
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 17 2016 17:01 GMT
#32
I'll always downtalk my contribution to this project, but it's nice to see the history laid out like this. The real heroes are cgrinker/ghostclaw/Aesop who made those early days of Liquipedia viable. Especially Aesop who became our first (real) head of liquipedia. I was just a caretaker which help put things in motion, it was those guys who made everything happen.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland931 Posts
March 17 2016 17:23 GMT
#33
Good read that, thanks a bunch!
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DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
March 17 2016 19:01 GMT
#34
My god it's beautiful. Lickpiddy4lyfe \m/
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11289 Posts
March 17 2016 19:39 GMT
#35
Thanks for writing this up, there are obviously a lot of memories for me in there.

Early days it was sometimes strange ... you sit there in the evening, editing pages of a project you had no idea what would become of it. One great memory is also the meeting at Freiburg in December 2009, where some of the "second generation" (Pholon, flicky and disciple, who did the major work on the second wiki skin) met up. (pics still up here)

Today, Liquipedia is the standard reference and is maintained with a professionalism and dedication that is incredible to watch and that was impossible to forsee in "my days". I am really proud of that and glad to have been allowed to do my small part.
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24665 Posts
March 18 2016 01:21 GMT
#36
A nice trip down memory lane. Another big thank you from me for all the volunteers early on who made Liquipedia possible and kept it alive.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-18 06:13:16
March 18 2016 06:12 GMT
#37
Thanks FO for the writeup!
Moderatorlickypiddy
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
March 18 2016 06:47 GMT
#38
Aesop and Plexa I'm sure both of you guys have some funny and interesting stories to tell about the history of Liquipedia, I'm eagerly awaiting the day when you have time to tell them.
Administrator"Ambitious but rubbish!" - Jeremy Clarkson
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
March 18 2016 17:29 GMT
#39
On March 18 2016 15:47 salle wrote:
Aesop and Plexa I'm sure both of you guys have some funny and interesting stories to tell about the history of Liquipedia, I'm eagerly awaiting the day when you have time to tell them.


Blogs, more bloooogs! \o/
LiquipediaWanderer
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37017 Posts
March 18 2016 17:36 GMT
#40
On March 18 2016 15:12 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Thanks FO for the writeup!

FTFY.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
March 18 2016 19:50 GMT
#41
<3 Liquipedia. We always knew it had potential, but it's really amazing to see just how well it's thrived.

A little more behind-the-scenes: Before we even started on the wiki vs forum debate, Chill, Kennigit and Haji were working on a Team Liquid Strategy Database, similar to TLPD. They put a ton of work into it (in some giant spreadsheet, I think), but it was made almost completely obsolete by the wiki. We weren't great at communication back then..

On March 17 2016 15:28 Inflicted wrote:
So who chose to name it Liquipedia over Liquidpedia ?

Hard to say. I can only narrow it down to someone with a soul.

(I think PoP actually named it, but I'm not 100% sure. Most of the early discussions were over MSN, so there's no records)

On March 18 2016 02:01 Plexa wrote:
I'll always downtalk my contribution to this project

You can try, but it ain't gonna work. :p
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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
March 18 2016 22:51 GMT
#42
Nice read. I as many others started due to the TSL 3 bracket contest, genius move. Too bad the blog is more focused on recent events, I wanted to read more about things before my time
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
March 18 2016 22:57 GMT
#43
I don't have time to contribute anymore, but I am glad I did. As a BW contributor, I wish we had a Wiki much earlier actually so much precious information was lost forever.
LP hwaiting!
ॐ
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4928 Posts
March 18 2016 23:04 GMT
#44
On March 19 2016 07:51 Epoxide wrote:
Nice read. I as many others started due to the TSL 3 bracket contest, genius move. Too bad the blog is more focused on recent events, I wanted to read more about things before my time

salle said the exact opposite, that the blog was more focused on early stuff...
Administrator@FO_nTTaX | FO-nTTaX.de | 0xff0000.dev | Senior Lead Liquipedia Developer
"Nimm es. Es ist nicht viel, aber es kommt von Herzen. Vergiss mich nicht!"
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
March 19 2016 00:46 GMT
#45
On March 19 2016 08:04 FO-nTTaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 07:51 Epoxide wrote:
Nice read. I as many others started due to the TSL 3 bracket contest, genius move. Too bad the blog is more focused on recent events, I wanted to read more about things before my time

salle said the exact opposite, that the blog was more focused on early stuff...

salle
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4159 Posts
March 19 2016 01:22 GMT
#46
I just want to see Liquipedia is such an awesome asset, for learning how to play the game, learning the history of the players and tournaments in the scene, it's such a wonderful asset the community has provided for it, and it's something that I don't think many people really appreciate as much as they should. Especially when I look into scenes that doesnt have a Liquipedia, it makes me appreciate the community more.

Here's to another 10 yrs!
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
March 19 2016 04:56 GMT
#47
\o/

WORK WORK WORK WORK

rip me, still forever the noob
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
March 19 2016 10:14 GMT
#48
On March 19 2016 02:36 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2016 15:12 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Thanks FO for the writeup!

FTFY.

Lol nice one seeker.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Corvuuss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Austria354 Posts
March 20 2016 00:05 GMT
#49
It feels great to be part of liquipedia and the post gave me new insights about the history before my time (i think i started early 2014) and i have great respect for all those People Who laid the groundwork for what i do
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-20 03:07:05
March 20 2016 03:06 GMT
#50
Nice writeup. Interesting to read all the history and such!

4/5 since I don't like the white background (really hard on the eyes ;; )
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
March 20 2016 11:01 GMT
#51
On March 19 2016 13:56 amazingxkcd wrote:
\o/

WORK WORK WORK WORK

rip me, still forever the noob


Ask swampflare, he might know a way for you to get coins.

Spoil alert: It's about player biographies.
LiquipediaWanderer
NoSoldier
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany84 Posts
March 20 2016 12:42 GMT
#52
TBH the only thing i ever looked up in Liquipedia was minerals/gas per minute. :o HERETIC! :D
If i only had a clue on how to have a clue... life could be sooo easy. :D
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
March 20 2016 19:57 GMT
#53
I learnt about teamliquid.net only after liquipedia
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Josh_Video
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada798 Posts
March 20 2016 23:55 GMT
#54
Oh, Liquipedia.
How I love thee.
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tolkienfanatic
Profile Joined February 2015
United States110 Posts
March 21 2016 13:29 GMT
#55
On March 20 2016 20:01 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 13:56 amazingxkcd wrote:
\o/

WORK WORK WORK WORK

rip me, still forever the noob


Ask swampflare, he might know a way for you to get coins.

Spoil alert: It's about player biographies.


Liquipedia@tolkienfanatic | Skype: tolkienfanatic | Liquipedia Staff | HLTV Staff | CS/FGC/RL
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2662 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-23 01:52:26
March 23 2016 01:51 GMT
#56
On March 18 2016 04:39 Aesop wrote:
Thanks for writing this up, there are obviously a lot of memories for me in there.

Early days it was sometimes strange ... you sit there in the evening, editing pages of a project you had no idea what would become of it. One great memory is also the meeting at Freiburg in December 2009, where some of the "second generation" (Pholon, flicky and disciple, who did the major work on the second wiki skin) met up. (pics still up here)

Today, Liquipedia is the standard reference and is maintained with a professionalism and dedication that is incredible to watch and that was impossible to forsee in "my days". I am really proud of that and glad to have been allowed to do my small part.


Now that's some good nostalgia.

This blog made me realise how long I actually worked on liquipedia with the others. It felt like a few months, turns out it was closer to two years.

Fuck yeah.

Being allowed to completely overhaul the player pages for so much was amazing. I have fond memories of rewriting practically every BW pro player page, especially the horrifically biased July page, wow.
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-25 15:01:30
March 25 2016 15:00 GMT
#57
I prob have coins on banned accts. Oh wait I have coins on this one. Where 's the requirements?
RIP SPOR 11/24/11 NEVAR FORGET
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
March 25 2016 15:34 GMT
#58
Requirements for what?
Administrator"Ambitious but rubbish!" - Jeremy Clarkson
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
March 25 2016 15:43 GMT
#59
For the coins I guess.
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
March 25 2016 15:51 GMT
#60
Contribute to the wikis, get coins.
Administrator"Ambitious but rubbish!" - Jeremy Clarkson
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
March 25 2016 18:50 GMT
#61
Or blackmail. Blackmail works fine. See next to my signature for proof.
Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
March 27 2016 01:16 GMT
#62
great stuff!
Liquipedia
scIndependent
Profile Joined March 2016
9 Posts
March 28 2016 17:00 GMT
#63
Wow, this is cool!
Swampflare
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1201 Posts
March 28 2016 19:12 GMT
#64
On March 20 2016 20:01 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 13:56 amazingxkcd wrote:
\o/

WORK WORK WORK WORK

rip me, still forever the noob


Ask swampflare, he might know a way for you to get coins.

Spoil alert: It's about player biographies.


how could you tell?
Liquipedia<FO-nTTaX> so i ordered a pizza to my house in the pizza service next to me and let them deliver [me] with the pizza
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2111 Posts
April 08 2016 00:26 GMT
#65
Guys there's a Warcraft III wiki in the works, help them out !
John 15:13
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
February 11 2017 12:29 GMT
#66
Small update on the total edit number. It passed 2.5 million in early February.
Administrator"Ambitious but rubbish!" - Jeremy Clarkson
Swampflare
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1201 Posts
February 11 2017 20:43 GMT
#67
wow necro
Liquipedia<FO-nTTaX> so i ordered a pizza to my house in the pizza service next to me and let them deliver [me] with the pizza
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