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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24756 Posts
October 28 2015 11:13 GMT
#21
Is Frozen aka oneother?

I'm starting to forget the good old days at this point.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
CoughingHydra
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
177 Posts
October 28 2015 13:34 GMT
#22
On October 28 2015 20:13 micronesia wrote:
Is Frozen aka oneother?

I'm starting to forget the good old days at this point.

It's the guy that posted this guide, which means yes (look at his quote).
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
October 28 2015 13:51 GMT
#23
Didn't the point change make B- not meaningful anymore?

Don't go posting like this and make me want to hit it
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
October 28 2015 16:18 GMT
#24
On October 28 2015 22:51 puppykiller wrote:
Didn't the point change make B- not meaningful anymore?

Don't go posting like this and make me want to hit it



It never really was and that's why I don't fully get the intention behind his goal. It's really only a symbol. If you manage to get a steady C+, you also get the B- icon, regardless of old or new ranking. The trick was to maintain a B-. Really, there's not a difference. There were plenty of people in Clan leagues with B-, which were beatable. If you looked closer it was one-time B- with a peak of maybe 61xx. However, people with a 63xx rating were an entirely different issue. From what I saw on one of the OP's akas he already managed to get beyond a point range in which there actually was a difference between C+ and B- icon people. Mission already achieved.


... then again I get why you want that symbol so hard. Even though it makes no sense.
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1843 Posts
October 28 2015 18:55 GMT
#25
On October 29 2015 01:18 GeckoXp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2015 22:51 puppykiller wrote:
Didn't the point change make B- not meaningful anymore?

Don't go posting like this and make me want to hit it



It never really was and that's why I don't fully get the intention behind his goal. It's really only a symbol. If you manage to get a steady C+, you also get the B- icon, regardless of old or new ranking. The trick was to maintain a B-. Really, there's not a difference. There were plenty of people in Clan leagues with B-, which were beatable. If you looked closer it was one-time B- with a peak of maybe 61xx. However, people with a 63xx rating were an entirely different issue. From what I saw on one of the OP's akas he already managed to get beyond a point range in which there actually was a difference between C+ and B- icon people. Mission already achieved.


... then again I get why you want that symbol so hard. Even though it makes no sense.


I don't know how the ladder works anymore but I think getting B- is a pride thing. Like someone else said earlier, for whatever reason B- used to be the first "respectable" rank. Getting to join the Ladder A-B channel for the first time and seeing all the Koreans in there was pretty sweet. Of course there were a bunch of different types of players who got that rank: there were the people who played during Korean hours (by far the hardest way to do it, but the most rewarding), there were the people who would only play foreigners, and there were the people who just brute forced it by playing a bunch of games and only winning like 30% of them but since wins gave more points than you'd lose by losing, you could eventually hit the rank. But regardless of how you got there, the shiny blue rank next to your name on iCCup does look pretty compared to that ugly yellow.
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3353 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-28 21:18:59
October 28 2015 21:04 GMT
#26
I don't really like the new system since before if I was C and i played a C+ and won I would get like 162 points on a MOTW and lose only -37. Nowdays, if I am even C- and play a C+ then I only get +130 on a motw and lose -50 as if its the same rank.

A C+ can play a D- and I think the gain 97 points if they win on a motw and only lose 62. So Yes, B- is more or less meaningless if you abuse but however in my opinion the ladder seems harder now especially against a lot of C+/C players.

Its still a personal goal lol.
김택용 Fighting!
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3353 Posts
October 29 2015 02:55 GMT
#27
Update:

I haven't been playing as much as I want but I'm 7-16 lol since starting to game again. A lot of the games are because of decision making mistakes that I am making so I feel that I will start winning more. I think 9-10 of those losses are too people that were B-/B/B+ at the time of playing them, are B- now, or were last few seasons so I don't really mind losing these games. On a plus note, I also manage to beat some B- players.
김택용 Fighting!
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
October 29 2015 21:14 GMT
#28
I'll log on and practice with you if you want!
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
October 29 2015 22:35 GMT
#29
On October 29 2015 11:55 Yaqoob wrote:
Update:

I haven't been playing as much as I want but I'm 7-16 lol since starting to game again. A lot of the games are because of decision making mistakes that I am making so I feel that I will start winning more. I think 9-10 of those losses are too people that were B-/B/B+ at the time of playing them, are B- now, or were last few seasons so I don't really mind losing these games. On a plus note, I also manage to beat some B- players.


I got a rocky start during this season, too. Mainly because I hadn't played in awhile. Don't get frustrated, though. You can do it! SO JUST DO IT. NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
December 15 2015 06:02 GMT
#30
So did you hit B- or are you gonna kill yourself now and post pics as proof :D
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
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