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Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3399 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-26 21:59:46
October 26 2015 19:34 GMT
#1
B- has been a goal/rank that has always been elusive for me. I've got C+ before, in fact, I even made a blog post about it on TL.Net long time ago--> www.teamliquid.net

However, I've always stopped at C+ and never progressed past that. I've always had the intention to mass game and get B- but have never found the time or just quit after a bunch of frustrating losses. This time is different. This week is different. I've been waiting for Fighting Spirit to be Map of the Week on ICCup.

I've been playing on two iccup accounts.

iccup.com
iccup.com

I'm going to start playing again on sGs.Yaqoob and play as much as possible till I get B-. I'm not a cheesy player and I usually play standard so I will be doing standard Protoss builds and might switch it up if I'm not high C+ by Sunday.

Why is B- so important to me? I've played Starcraft for a decent time. I guess 8-9 years. I think I've been on Teamliquid for about 10 years. When I was on USEast, I started to hang out with a group of people in op SWBK. I was also in Clan SCC.

During the years, some left op SWBK and some joined. There was a group of people that I used to play with a lot. We use to talk on vent everyday. We played on PGT and Iccup together.

Some of the players and their ICCup rank that made up op swbk:

gNs.I-Ahzz (I think B/B+/A-). He also goes by the name gigant and made some zerg guides here on teamliquid. He played ZvT/PvZ/ZvZ as far as I remember

sMi.Suppy (or as he is known now eG.Suppy). I think he reached B rank in ICCup before SC2 came up. Me and him almost had a type of rivalry because he would do turtle ZvP (sunk/lurk/Spore) and I actually remember telling him to do that when he was learning ZvP but I have no patience and would always attack into it lol

Salv (I think he was in sMi at some point but not sure). B- Protoss. He played Chill in that SC2GG vs TL showmatch

Gladstone - He had a gNs.I name that I can't remember. B- Terran.

Sharpie C-/C Terran. I would go reaver against him and always lose my shuttle and suicide into his army when he did spilt map scenarios.

They all reached B- (especially Suppy, Salv, Gladstone) cause Ahzz was always just better from us lol and I always wanted too but didn't.

Also, I really wanted to make B- when I was in sMi. because there was a bunch of guys from tl.net that I played with that achieved it while like sMi.Frozen and others (I still do his Nexus First PvP build on FS)

Well, I'm going to fix my mistakes in PvT and PvZ and reach B-. I have a problem of attacking into Terran armies all the time but from recent VODs and replays I've watched on Teamliquid, I've seen a lot of high level Protoss just avoid the army in general and recall or attack everywhere the army isnt and just expand all over the map.

As for PvZ, I never really got into the neo Bisu Build (+1 sair /w speedzeal) and when I used to play seriously, I would do the sair/4 gate speedzeal/archon build. I've been practicing the new build and trying to work on my multitasking.

I'm going on a long vacation in 2 weeks and won't really be able to play Starcraft a lot so I have to get B- this time or its probably never going to happen.

I do kinda wish Iccup hadn't changed their rating system because I find their a lot of C+/B- people that only play lower ranks but I understand its hard to get games. Personally I just make open D+ to C+ games and play whoever joins and most people that do join that are D+ have achieved C+ or B-/B last season or earlier.

I'll try and jot down my progess in new blogs possibly doing a Day 1 to Day 7 thing.

Also, wanted to say thank you for everyone involved in sGs for having a clan for new players/people returning to Starcraft and the Amateur by sGs.Shimy/Fox.Shimy for bringing back my interest for improving my Starcraft skill.



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Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
October 26 2015 20:44 GMT
#2
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YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
October 26 2015 21:28 GMT
#3
Go yaq!!, hey I got a solid B on sMi.Gladstone a few years back!!
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
October 26 2015 21:35 GMT
#4
Good luck man! It makes me laugh thinking back to when we all played iCCup. I remember B- being the consensus spot to where you were no longer just another average Starcraft player, but a slightly above average player haha. Many people didn't consider anything under B- to be impressive, but B- was at least deserving of a little respect. I forget the map name now, but the first time I got B- I was only 300-400 away and there was a map you could proxy double gateways and win pretty easily as long as they didn't scout it. One of every two people might sniff it out, but it was enough to still ensure you would gain enough points.

A funny story since you brought up the SC2GG & TL showmatch. The admin forum for SC2GG was discussing who would play who - I can't remember everyone's rank but I remember no one wanted to play Chill on Andromeda - it was an unorthodox map and I think we all thought Chill was their best or one of their best. I wound up getting that position and I practiced my ass off - playing a pile of games on Andromeda versus Z. I remember hearing that the best strategy was corsair and reaver, but with my mechanics there was no way I would be able to pull it off.

The weekend of the showmatch Yaqoob is down at my house. It comes time to play the match and at that point we had lost every single match - I wasn't listening to the commentary but people were messaging me telling me SC2GG was getting skewered, haha - so that I needed to win in order to save face a little bit. I remember I didn't have a particular strategy, I was just going to play a regular game. If memory serves, Chill winds up opening with 6 or 9 mutalisk and then going straight into hydralisk, and then ultralisks. At the time, no one I played like that on iCCup - people went mutalisk or hydras - not both and no transition. I remember making dragoons and having a clear moment in my head where I blanked and was like, "I have no idea what to do right now", lmao.

So I wind up getting wrecked - I have getting a ton of PMs telling me the commentary is brutal and that I let everybody down. So right in the moment where I just lost a game I practiced a lot for; people are telling me how much I let SC2GG down; and the commentary is apparently killing me, Yaqoob turns around, looks at me and says, "Wow - you really sucked". THANKS YAQOOB, THANKS A MILLION, REALLY GLAD I INVITED YOU OVER HERE TO POINT TH AT OUT TO ME! Hahahaha :D

Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3399 Posts
October 26 2015 21:57 GMT
#5
On October 27 2015 05:44 Ty2 wrote:
Why don't you transfer your points from one account over to the other? You can get beyond B- that way.

I don't think you can transfer points and add those points to another account. Both my accounts are more or less at C so I'm going to mass game on sGs.Yaqoob cause that is the highest one right now

@Salv

I'm pretty sure the map your talking about is Destination lol

lol @ the showmatch story
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
October 26 2015 22:13 GMT
#6
Yaqoob...I recognize your name from the SC2GG days.

Good luck with B- I've actually been playing on iccup a bit more recently myself, maybe we will run into each other at some point.
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-26 22:29:58
October 26 2015 22:18 GMT
#7
On October 27 2015 06:57 Yaqoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 05:44 Ty2 wrote:
Why don't you transfer your points from one account over to the other? You can get beyond B- that way.

I don't think you can transfer points and add those points to another account. Both my accounts are more or less at C so I'm going to mass game on sGs.Yaqoob cause that is the highest one right now

@Salv

I'm pretty sure the map your talking about is Destination lol

lol @ the showmatch story


Nope, not destination. It was a four player map if I recall correctly and the bases were on raised space tileset platforms. I'll try and find it.

EDIT - Cant find it. I looked through the TLPD map section and this map is close to it: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/maps/536_Neo_Electric_Circuit

The only difference is, if I remember right, the bases were raised in the same style as neo forte - they had raised platform from the space tileset. Anyway, you could proxy the two gates at the bottom outside their base on the low ground and the entrance was far enough away that they wouldn't see it regardless of the direction their scout took. It was a cheesy strategy no doubt but I was desperate at the time for B- lol.
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
October 26 2015 23:35 GMT
#8
God Salv, way to ruin it for SC2GG.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24797 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-27 00:03:09
October 27 2015 00:02 GMT
#9
Haha all the East dudes will come out of the woodwork now. Good luck Toss.

Also Salv lol I never knew that story but, pretty awesome. You haven't lived until you've been emasculated on stream for your play... in my case the person you lost to was the one who shat on me in the commentary, and there were a LOT of viewers :p

edit: Also my opponent was very strong
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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
October 27 2015 01:21 GMT
#10
Hahaha, I think I just sat there in quiet sad contemplation while Yaqoob stared at me blankly. It's hilarious to look back on, but at the time I was crushed lol.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-27 01:27:45
October 27 2015 01:27 GMT
#11
haha wow this is crazy all the familiar names in your post yaq and all the familiar names coming to post on this blog Those were the good days for sure I believe in you on your path to B-!! :D

Damn I think this is the first time I've posted on TL for a really long time . . .
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1845 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-27 01:30:33
October 27 2015 01:29 GMT
#12
On October 27 2015 06:28 YPang wrote:
Go yaq!!, hey I got a solid B on sMi.Gladstone a few years back!!


How many games did you lose due to having to shut your computer off when your parents came home?

Also good luck getting B-! I don't know if we ever played each other but I remember seeing your name a lot. As someone who used to post blogs exactly like this, it's cool to see them still going.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 27 2015 05:28 GMT
#13
On October 27 2015 10:29 GoShox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 06:28 YPang wrote:
Go yaq!!, hey I got a solid B on sMi.Gladstone a few years back!!


How many games did you lose due to having to shut your computer off when your parents came home?

Also good luck getting B-! I don't know if we ever played each other but I remember seeing your name a lot. As someone who used to post blogs exactly like this, it's cool to see them still going.


BW will never die!
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3399 Posts
October 27 2015 15:45 GMT
#14
On October 27 2015 14:28 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 10:29 GoShox wrote:
On October 27 2015 06:28 YPang wrote:
Go yaq!!, hey I got a solid B on sMi.Gladstone a few years back!!


How many games did you lose due to having to shut your computer off when your parents came home?

Also good luck getting B-! I don't know if we ever played each other but I remember seeing your name a lot. As someone who used to post blogs exactly like this, it's cool to see them still going.


BW will never die!

A big thank you for running and making sGs possible!
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Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
October 27 2015 16:32 GMT
#15
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Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4342 Posts
October 27 2015 20:59 GMT
#16
I'm pretty sure I failed way harder in my game vs rage than you did vs chill haha
So wait? I'm bad? =(
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
October 27 2015 22:39 GMT
#17
literally seeing all of these names posting in here is making me so happy.
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
October 28 2015 02:39 GMT
#18
On October 27 2015 04:34 Yaqoob wrote:
This time is different. This week is different. I've been waiting for Fighting Spirit to be Map of the Week on ICCup.



I don't know why... but this made me smile.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1845 Posts
October 28 2015 03:40 GMT
#19
Also a couple months ago I logged into iCCup to see what was going on and some random guy started messaging me asking for a game. It turned out to be Frozen, so he's still around, hiding in the shadows... Probably trying to get numbers on how many people still use that build he posted.
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3399 Posts
October 28 2015 11:12 GMT
#20
On October 28 2015 12:40 GoShox wrote:
Also a couple months ago I logged into iCCup to see what was going on and some random guy started messaging me asking for a game. It turned out to be Frozen, so he's still around, hiding in the shadows... Probably trying to get numbers on how many people still use that build he posted.

I've been using his build PvP on FS but I've had some frustrating losses against 2 gates lol. I guess my multitasking and zealot micro isn't at Frozen's level lol
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