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On July 31 2015 10:40 rebdomine wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2015 08:59 Imperfect1987 wrote:
I'm so sad how little love Riki gets in this game. I hope they buff him if he doesn't get picked in TI5. Great stats, thank you for the work! I'd rather not, if they buff him anymore, he'll be the next pub cancer.
I mean anything can be the next pub cancer. Lets look at some heroes that aren't popular right now, and imagine them being buffed to god-tier status
Night Stalker- Dota "Dark Ages"
Lone Druid, TB - Rat every game
Medusa- Every game highground, 1 hour+ (kinda like sniper except even stronger?)
Abaddon- No one dies anymore
OD- Midlane literally unplayable
Necrophos- Lategame unplayable, carries cant buyback ever
The only hero I can see being quite fun to play against even if he gets top-tier status is Kunkka.
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Any of the unpicked heroes were picked today?
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On July 31 2015 12:42 pdd wrote:
Any of the unpicked heroes were picked today?
As far as I can tell they weren't.
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On July 31 2015 10:48 xAdra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2015 10:40 rebdomine wrote:On July 31 2015 08:59 Imperfect1987 wrote:
I'm so sad how little love Riki gets in this game. I hope they buff him if he doesn't get picked in TI5. Great stats, thank you for the work! I'd rather not, if they buff him anymore, he'll be the next pub cancer. I mean anything can be the next pub cancer. Lets look at some heroes that aren't popular right now, and imagine them being buffed to god-tier status Night Stalker- Dota "Dark Ages" Lone Druid, TB - Rat every game Medusa- Every game highground, 1 hour+ (kinda like sniper except even stronger?) Abaddon- No one dies anymore OD- Midlane literally unplayable Necrophos- Lategame unplayable, carries cant buyback ever The only hero I can see being quite fun to play against even if he gets top-tier status is Kunkka.
"Late game literally unplayable, get one shot by crit"
Although I do love that hero.
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DP, necro, sniper, riki, TB, meepo and OD can all languish in unpickability for the next ten patches for all I care. I think those heroes being unpicked is half the reason this patch is among my favourites.
Morph and weaver are a bit surprising, however. So is ursa; that hero's never been stronger in terms of raw power, imo, he's just kind of awkward. Finding a way to make him work could pay dividends.
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Potentially the first TI without Pudge.
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On July 31 2015 16:15 Belisarius wrote:
DP, necro, sniper, riki, TB, meepo and OD can all languish in unpickability for the next ten patches for all I care. I think those heroes being unpicked is half the reason this patch is among my favourites.
Morph and weaver are a bit surprising, however. So is ursa; that hero's never been stronger in terms of raw power, imo, he's just kind of awkward. Finding a way to make him work could pay dividends.
Agreed for all except riki, and I'd probably add Doom, Lycan and Void to the list. Heroes that exist just to make people not-play the game can go to hell
EDIT: how could I forget silencer
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riki belongs on that list.
Heroes I think will be picked: Pudge, Kunka, Weaver
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We are in dire Need of some (core) Kunkka.
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Interesting that Ogre is on the list. Strong support in most ways, sadly too short range on stun for a melee support.
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Although not in the actual group stage so far, Ursa was picked by Archon in the Wildcards, so he hasn't been totally ignored this TI.
Will any of these get picked up in the main event, I personally only see Faceless Void for EG or Warlock for MVP being possibilities.
The rest, there seems multiple better options at the moment (especially with teams seeming to want more in the way of Slow's and AoE stuns instead of more single target Stuns at the moment.)
Time will tell of course, and unless there is a significant change in the meta in the three days until the Main Event (which is possible), we will likely have all the picks we're going to get this year.
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It's inevitable that Weaver and Morphling will be picked.
Heroes not being picked in competitive games does not mean necessarily mean the hero is weak. Heroes in Dota have unique concepts and sometimes the hero concept just doesn't fit any teams' approach to the game. Over tweaking to force a change and we end up with the current Bloodseeker and Techies.
Three critical Techies buff in 6.84 that make him ridiculous:
- Reduced Land Mines activation delay from 1.75 to 0.5.
With 0 second cast and 0.3 delay to explosion after activation, the total time needed is only 0.8 seconds. This makes it a cast-able 300 (+75 per level) physical damage nuke melds range. This isn't just about Tusk combo, it's any melds hero trying to attack Techies.
- Reduced cooldown from 180/170/160/150 to 160/140/120/100. (Suicide Squad)
- Aghanim's Scepter now causes Minefield Sign to turn all Land Mines, Stasis Traps and Remotes Mines within the radius of the Minefield Sign immune to True Sight.
Basically broken when used offensively cause defending team can't defend to defend their buildings. You can't move your buildings somewhere else.
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What game featured a nyx?
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On August 01 2015 23:09 Mafe wrote:
What game featured a nyx?
EG - Ehome
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i didnt see any pheonix games
i like pehonix
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I'm surprised Necro hasn't shown up in this heavy teamfight / siegepush meta. I think he fits in the same role as Pugna in the slow push comps that have occasionally shown up, with the added benefits of being able to take out an important target and not being made of paper.
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Updated OP:
-No changes after Groups Day 4
-Main Event Day 1: Jakiro was picked by MVP.H6, they lost to IG 
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That Jakiro pick was quite yolo tbh and hot6 got outclassed so hard that game.
Troll is gona get picked for sure.
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Bloodrage + Liquid Fire melting towers was funny though 
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