• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:36
CET 10:36
KST 18:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book6Clem wins HomeStory Cup 288HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info4herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2RSL Season 4 announced for March-April7Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Clem wins HomeStory Cup 28 How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026 HomeStory Cup 28
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Recent recommended BW games BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Can someone share very abbreviated BW cliffnotes? StarCraft player reflex TE scores
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2001 users

[TI5] Unpicked Heroes

Blogs > BobMcJohnson
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-12 19:11:53
July 30 2015 09:29 GMT
#1
With all talk/stats about the heroes that are picked/banned, I figured out that for a change it would be interesting to talk about the one that aren't picked. The ones that are sadly shit-tier and will not see the light of day, the ones that could be used in top secret pocket strats, and the ones that nobody wants to see anyways because fuck them.

Main Event Updates:

Day 1: Jakiro makes it off the list! (Picked by MVP.H6 against IG) Down to 23 unpicked heroes, 22 if you include the wildcards.
Day 2: VG didn't get the memo that 6.83 was over and took two heroes off the list against C9. Spectre in game 1 and Sniper in game 2.
Day 3: No changes. Main event itself seems to have less diversity than groups so far. Currently at 49 unpicked heroes when looking at main even only.
Day 4: Morphling was finally picked by VG against MVP. Medusa was picked by VP.

Remaining 18 Heroes (wildcards included):
-Alchemist
-Death Prophet
-Doom
-Elder Titan
-Faceless Void
-Kunkka
-Lone Druid
-Meepo
-Mirana
-Necrophos
-Ogre Magi
-Outworld Devourer
-Pudge
-Riki
-Terrorblade
-Troll Warlord
-Warlock
-Weaver

Here are the pick counts during the qualifiers for the heroes that were still unpicked at the end of the group stage (Ursa is in the table but he was picked during the wildcards)

[image loading]

Weaver and Morph are the most suprising ones, especially since they had good records during the qualifiers (Morph was 6/2 in the CN quals and Weaver was 5/2 during the SEA quals), and Weaver benefited quite a lot from the Deso buff.
Mirana is also a bit surprising given that Bane is quite popular so far in the group stage.

The ones at the bottom on the other hand sadly are not. DP nowdays is just a shitty version of Leshrac and TB is well TB.

Which ones do you expect to see used in pocket strats before the end of TI?
Hopefully one of the MVP teams will pull out a Warlock before going out.

Romanes eunt domus
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
July 30 2015 11:31 GMT
#2
Needs more kunkka support love.
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-30 12:47:48
July 30 2015 12:44 GMT
#3
Yea, MVP.Phoenix should pick Warlock for March in their last group stage game against Secret just for the hell of it.
He's retiring after TI, so might as well play his signature hero and go out with a bang.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 30 2015 14:11 GMT
#4
With all the gold everyone gets and the items to save teammates like Glimmer cape, I don't think LD will every come back without a buff. Buff the bear.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
July 30 2015 14:28 GMT
#5
It's unlikely but I want to see late game Spectre with double haunt at least once this TI

the most surprising out of this list is definitely Jakiro though, I don't think he's that bad in the meta
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
July 30 2015 14:45 GMT
#6
I was sure vengeful spirit was completly ignored, as well as SD.
Who picked them?
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-30 14:57:54
July 30 2015 14:54 GMT
#7
aw yeah Kunkka Support would be dope. Kunkka's one of my favorite heroes but as a carry I feel Ember kinda fills the same role better. Kunkka support is fucking legit though, I saw ppd play him on stream a while ago, I could see him giving it a go.

Also, Venge was picked by VG against Empire, SD was picked by EG against Empire and by MVP.P against Fnatic.
Romanes eunt domus
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
July 30 2015 15:03 GMT
#8
I'm surprised to see Void and Jakiro there.

Medusa pretty much deserves it because of how utterly, disgustingly outclassed she is by Gyro at the moment.

Elder Titan, bar none my fave hero will probably make an appearance or two. Natural Order always finds a way
uberxD
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
412 Posts
July 30 2015 15:17 GMT
#9
If Magnus finds little more success during today matches, I think at least one team will try to pull out the combo with Ursa.
<-- occasionally in English - @uberdota
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-30 18:37:37
July 30 2015 18:37 GMT
#10
On July 31 2015 00:03 xAdra wrote:
I'm surprised to see Void and Jakiro there.

Medusa pretty much deserves it because of how utterly, disgustingly outclassed she is by Gyro at the moment.

Elder Titan, bar none my fave hero will probably make an appearance or two. Natural Order always finds a way

ET is a rly good pick if someone pulls out the morph who is also on this list.
Im expecting some of these heroes to see play during TI, many of them are niche picks, but can be realy strong, like Ursa, Weaver, Doom and maybe even Medusa or Spectre.
Heroes im not expecting to see at all: Lone Druid Terrorblade, Death Prophet and OD.
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
July 30 2015 18:53 GMT
#11
No Sniper or Troll thanks Icefrog
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
July 30 2015 18:56 GMT
#12
Its honestly sad how honestly dog shit DP is nowadays. I really quite liked playing her but she is just completely outclassed by Lesh in every meaningful way and isn't all that playable otherwise.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
July 30 2015 20:16 GMT
#13
I think you should cross out ursa. He was picked by archon but that was wild card.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
July 30 2015 21:05 GMT
#14
no warlock is almost shocking considering the 2 Korean teams
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
HUMMAN
Profile Joined July 2015
Turkey61 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-30 22:18:55
July 30 2015 22:18 GMT
#15
I want to ask something simple, which factors determine heroes popular in meta?
Hello!
dbssaber
Profile Joined September 2013
United States193 Posts
July 30 2015 23:05 GMT
#16
I want to see Fnatic break out the Mushi OD so badly...
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) STYLE START SBENU ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Imperfect1987
Profile Joined August 2010
United States558 Posts
July 30 2015 23:59 GMT
#17
I'm so sad how little love Riki gets in this game. I hope they buff him if he doesn't get picked in TI5. Great stats, thank you for the work!
The keyboard is mightier than the pen.
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
July 31 2015 00:13 GMT
#18
On July 31 2015 07:18 HUMMAN wrote:
I want to ask something simple, which factors determine heroes popular in meta?

I believe that an overwhelmingly strong pick will surface (Ember/Voker 6.80, DP/Razor/Brew 6.81, Sniper/Troll 6.83, Lesh/Gyro 6.84) combined with some global factors (kill gold, tower armor, comeback mechanics) which influence the pace of the game. The rest of the popular heroes will probably work well in some way with the pace of the game or the FotM pick, while those that don't fit in at all/are just dogshit weak and outclassed (like medusa and OD now) will not be picked.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
July 31 2015 00:34 GMT
#19
On July 31 2015 06:05 LemOn wrote:
no warlock is almost shocking considering the 2 Korean teams

saving the strats for bracket
:)
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
July 31 2015 01:40 GMT
#20
On July 31 2015 08:59 Imperfect1987 wrote:
I'm so sad how little love Riki gets in this game. I hope they buff him if he doesn't get picked in TI5. Great stats, thank you for the work!


I'd rather not, if they buff him anymore, he'll be the next pub cancer.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 24m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech153
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5828
Rain 3713
Flash 775
Larva 452
Leta 371
actioN 350
Soma 145
ZerO 127
Sharp 77
Shuttle 59
[ Show more ]
Mind 44
Backho 28
zelot 21
910 19
Noble 18
Shine 12
Sacsri 9
Mini 5
sorry 3
Dota 2
Fuzer 132
NeuroSwarm114
League of Legends
C9.Mang0248
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King115
Westballz51
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor277
Other Games
summit1g7227
ZerO(Twitch)14
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1276
BasetradeTV107
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 23
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 15
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1497
• HappyZerGling114
Upcoming Events
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2h 24m
WardiTV Winter Champion…
5h 24m
OSC
14h 24m
Replay Cast
23h 24m
Wardi Open
1d 2h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 7h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
Reynor vs Creator
Maru vs Lambo
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
Clem vs Rogue
SHIN vs Cyan
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
Scarlett vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
Online Event
5 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
Serral vs Zoun
Cure vs Classic
LiuLi Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.