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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-03 20:26:57
March 31 2015 19:49 GMT
#1
If you know how to properly pronounce the above, I'm dying to know

My club was offered a good opportunity for a training camp in (see title) and Budapest, Hungary. It's been a while since we went on a proper training camp together, what with adjustment periods and times of economic disarray. Since the team isn't that big at the moment, our "delegation" consists of some thirty swimmers ages 13-24, of vastly different ability. To specify, the FINA point disparity between lowest and highest is 381 (428 -> 709). That might sound impractical, but it is actually a very fun experience. Everything outside practice is much more laid back and fun and practice is largely unhindered due to split sessions and individual exercises.

The trip, mostly funded by our team sponsor TYR, had one main benefit going in: bus. Now, a Sweden -> Hungary bus ride might not sound so entertaining, but total travel time accounting for standard airport issues such as 14-year olds being idiots was set to be "only +10 hours and give us 4 extra practice sessions, free sightseeing (around the clock access to our bus) by merit of an easier trip wherever.

If you didnt guess it, we didnt get here on time - we were slapped squarely in our collective face with an almost 9-hour delar. Trafficking, weather, engine issues, language issues at the Czech border... We covered most of it. Instead of arriving at 11am, we arrived at 8.15 pm. Air conditioning and/or Wi-fi on the bus would have made things significantly more comfortable. I brought the Kingkiller Chronicles on audiobook which had me covered, the less experienced first-timers were less lucky

Contrary to what you might think of a relatively small town with a name no one seems to be able to pronounce, there is an absolutely excellent training complex (2x50m pools, 1x25, some semblance of a gym, space for running and a great outdoor hot springs-ish pool complex.) Given that I train in somewhat of a shithole to begin with, this is 8 steps up.

We're heading on to Budapest the day after tomorrow, and I'd love some recommendations for things to do or dishes to eat. I eat lots of unhealthy crap so give me your worst (best)

The lock on my toilet door broke and I've been stuck in here for an hour so this is mostly me writing away the time via mobile TL, i was going to post some pictures but the connection is way too iffy. I'll get back to that later this week.

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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
March 31 2015 20:01 GMT
#2
I am really curious what kind of language issues you had since we do not even have any borders to speak of.

Also, it seems kindof strange for swimmers to go somewhere that far for training, isn't water moreorless the same everywhere?

And I believe I do know how to roughly pronounce it because while Hungarian is totally unrelated to Czech, the writing system is very similar - following a 1:1 letter-sound correspondence, only with some letters pronounced differently (and a couple of "double letters") but I have no idea how to convey that to a presumably Swedish person (assuming that "East Gorteau" is supposed to be something funny).
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 31 2015 20:03 GMT
#3
Eyafjallajökull yo
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 20:10:48
March 31 2015 20:09 GMT
#4
The language issues were about the driver asking a guy for recommendations on where to get breakfast ("where is the nearest McDonalds?") and mishearing the answer. Not anyone's fault but his and his old-generation Swedish English.

That does actually help me; I've been told Hungarian is a special beast but If pronounciation is similar to Czech I could probably manage. It's just not a language I've been exposed to ever so the big words are a bit intimidating

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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 31 2015 20:12 GMT
#5
The lock on my toilet door broke and I've been stuck in here for an hour


Wait

Again?!
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
March 31 2015 20:13 GMT
#6
Whats it like being stuck in a bathroom? can we turn this into an ama
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
March 31 2015 20:15 GMT
#7
On April 01 2015 05:09 Zealously wrote:
The language issues were about the driver asking a guy for recommendations on where to get breakfast ("where is the nearest McDonalds?") and mishearing the answer. Not anyone's fault but his and his old-generation Swedish English.

That does actually help me; I've been told Hungarian is a special beast but If pronounciation is similar to Czech I could probably manage. It's just not a language I've been exposed to ever so the big words are a bit intimidating



The big differences are that in Hungarian plain "s" reads as "š" in Czech (sch in German) and to get "s" you need "sz" and that "gy" reads as "ď" which is a sound you probably never heard unless you speak some Czech Other than that I always got away in Hungary with moreorless Czech pronunciation for local names - and I have had my fair share of looking for something in that country.
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10688 Posts
March 31 2015 20:46 GMT
#8
On April 01 2015 05:12 Lorning wrote:
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The lock on my toilet door broke and I've been stuck in here for an hour


Wait

Again?!


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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 31 2015 20:57 GMT
#9
On April 01 2015 05:12 Lorning wrote:
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The lock on my toilet door broke and I've been stuck in here for an hour


Wait

Again?!


I have an unhealthy knack of choosing to shower longer and "utilize the facilities" after late practice

In other words i sit on the toilet for 20 minutes while everyone else leaves
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
March 31 2015 20:57 GMT
#10
"gy" reads as "ď" which is a sound you probably never heard unless you speak some Czech
my guess is it's like J in the English language, or even G in most cases (like in "germ", but not like in "gram").
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hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
March 31 2015 21:36 GMT
#11
On April 01 2015 05:57 figq wrote:
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"gy" reads as "ď" which is a sound you probably never heard unless you speak some Czech
my guess is it's like J in the English language, or even G in most cases (like in "germ", but not like in "gram").


If you mean like joke or gin, then no. It's a different sound and it doesn't exist in English. It's between a hard g (as in goal) and the consonant y (as in play).

I can't explain the pronunciation of Hódmezővásárhely, but wikipedia has it in audio and it's correct.
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
March 31 2015 21:43 GMT
#12
On April 01 2015 05:03 boxerfred wrote:
Eyafjallajökull yo


Back in my day, volcanoes had easy names, like "Mount Saint Helens"
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45197 Posts
April 01 2015 02:15 GMT
#13
On April 01 2015 06:43 ninazerg wrote:
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On April 01 2015 05:03 boxerfred wrote:
Eyafjallajökull yo


Back in my day, volcanoes had easy names, like "Mount Saint Helens"


Mount Eye-Full-o'-Yokel, obv.
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
April 01 2015 07:03 GMT
#14
On April 01 2015 06:36 hypercube wrote:
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On April 01 2015 05:57 figq wrote:
"gy" reads as "ď" which is a sound you probably never heard unless you speak some Czech
my guess is it's like J in the English language, or even G in most cases (like in "germ", but not like in "gram").


If you mean like joke or gin, then no. It's a different sound and it doesn't exist in English. It's between a hard g (as in goal) and the consonant y (as in play).

I can't explain the pronunciation of Hódmezővásárhely, but wikipedia has it in audio and it's correct.


I had forgotten that "ly" is also changed, would have read it wrong!
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
April 01 2015 11:02 GMT
#15
This is actually Polish and not Czech, but close enough:

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valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
April 01 2015 12:38 GMT
#16
I'll actually try to explain:

Hód : it's like mode, but the ó is like when you would say Nooooooo, so it's somewhat longer than a normal 'o' but still, a single, longer letter, so like moode just with a h at the beginning. It actually means beaver.

mező: z is like s in english, but it's similar to the z in the word, mestizo. Ő is weird, you can't really explain it, because there's no such letter in english, but I would say it's simiar to oe, like the rally driver Sebastian Loeb. The word means land or field.

vásár: á is like the transition between r and y in the word cry, or between m y in my. Or the u in guy. S is not a z, it's sh, like shallow. The word means fair, as a place where you buy things.

hely: ly is basically y so the word is similar to hay, but instead of a it like a double e like in hey! as a form of greeting. The word means place.

There you have it, try pronouncing it and possibly vocaroo it.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
April 01 2015 12:39 GMT
#17
Only Hungarian food I know of is goulash so it is either very good or so bad it is infamous. Oh and they love paprika.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_cuisine
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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
April 01 2015 14:11 GMT
#18
I love languages with long words. Enjoy this german monstrosity: Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän.
(it means "captain of the Danube steam shipping company")

Another great one is "Rindfleisch­etikettierungs­überwachungs­aufgaben­übertragungs­gesetz"
meaning: "law dealing with the supervision of the labeling of beef"
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-01 15:45:32
April 01 2015 15:19 GMT
#19
wow travelling to hungary just for a practice? @@

On April 01 2015 06:43 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 05:03 boxerfred wrote:
Eyafjallajökull yo


Back in my day, volcanoes had easy names, like "Mount Saint Helens"


Yea.. volcanoes these days.......

On April 01 2015 20:02 Elyvilon wrote:
This is actually Polish and not Czech, but close enough:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlOoSsfU6cM


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Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
April 01 2015 15:42 GMT
#20
I've been to Budapest two times. Wonderful city, imo. If you have the time for it, visit Gellert or Szechenyi. Really nice place to relax, although quite expensive.

You can get cheap and nice food from a few kebab places close to the northern train station. My favorite place is a chinese fast food place east of the Erszebest hid.

The synagogue is cool if you're into that kind of touristing. The varhegy is not worth spending too much time at. Imo you can enjoy it as well from a distance as up there. (If you're not a total history nerd )
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