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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
March 11 2015 21:14 GMT
#21
On March 12 2015 06:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 06:03 ninazerg wrote:
On March 11 2015 21:54 Cricketer12 wrote:
For the record, wind waker is the best zelda


Get out.


No, come at me


You don't want none.
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Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
941 Posts
March 11 2015 21:32 GMT
#22
I never got those "MOAR DARK IS BETTER" dudes, until today i don't get their bashing on OoT 3D if the game was like that:

[image loading]

It would be a fucking masterpiece?

And i don't get the praise on Majoras, it was the only Zelda that i dropped because i got bored by how the game make you repeat trivial things for absolute no point a ton of times, the time limit never made you act faster on a dungeon except if you are looking for fairies.

The time limit thing was im my opinion just a excuse to artificially increase the time of an already short game (see the MOTHERFUCKING NEED TO KILL THE SECOND BOSS EVERY SINGLE TIME just to talk to the NPCs on the second temple area).

I can forgive Okami unnecessary repetition because at least he let's you explore a vast world while Majoras...

PS: If anyone is going to type "ur OoT fanboY!", my favorite game of this franchise is Minish Cap.
:3
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
March 11 2015 23:58 GMT
#23
On March 12 2015 06:14 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 06:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
On March 12 2015 06:03 ninazerg wrote:
On March 11 2015 21:54 Cricketer12 wrote:
For the record, wind waker is the best zelda


Get out.


No, come at me


You don't want none.

try me
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
March 12 2015 01:29 GMT
#24
On March 12 2015 06:32 Starecat wrote:
And i don't get the praise on Majoras, it was the only Zelda that i dropped because i got bored by how the game make you repeat trivial things for absolute no point a ton of times, the time limit never made you act faster on a dungeon except if you are looking for fairies.

The time limit thing was im my opinion just a excuse to artificially increase the time of an already short game (see the MOTHERFUCKING NEED TO KILL THE SECOND BOSS EVERY SINGLE TIME just to talk to the NPCs on the second temple area).


Majora's Mask is just a really fun game. It just is. Okay?
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-12 02:28:34
March 12 2015 02:28 GMT
#25
Everyone who denies that majoras mask is the gr8est, dankest loz is wrong. No counter argument can break my well thought out and eloquent statement.

+ Show Spoiler +
fully srs btw, the games amazing
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
March 12 2015 03:08 GMT
#26
♥s Nina. Majoras Mask is the shit.
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starslayer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States696 Posts
March 12 2015 19:39 GMT
#27
i wish i had my last 3 mins back reading this.
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DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
March 12 2015 19:53 GMT
#28
Majora's Mask is so awesome that I am going to dig out my n64 and play it again in the next month, and then OoT for good measure as well.

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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
March 12 2015 20:28 GMT
#29
Pokemon > LoZ
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Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2665 Posts
March 12 2015 20:33 GMT
#30
I always thought Majora was darker because it had a darker undertone in everything, from the dialogues to item descriptions to other stuff, the game deals a lot with dead characters, dying characters, dying domains and towns and pretty much dying everything lol.

OoT in my opinion is not dark but rather melancholic, OoT is all about how everything was fine once and went to shit after Ganon takes the power, in Majoras everything is awful from the beggining a by the end everything stays pretty much the same.

Also OoT is all about a happy ending and everything getting better, in Majoras everything stays the awful same except without the moon falling thingy (woohoo I guess?)

At least thats how I take it from my 10 year old memories
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11607 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-12 21:28:48
March 12 2015 21:25 GMT
#31
This is the darkest timeline.

You are right that OoT is pretty dark, particularly after the Seven Year Advance- that Spirit Temple *shudder. Plus the destruction of the Hyrule Marketplace.

However, I suspect one reason why MM made an impression as 'darker' is due, at least in part, to the beginning. OoT start pretty darn happy in the Kokiri Forest. Yes the Tree is poisoned and dies, but the start is is pretty bright and sunny. Going back to Kokiri as an adult is pretty morose until you clear the Forest Temple (probably my all time favourite dungeon as far as atmosphere, music, and boss.)

Whereas the whole forest scene start, the curse, that creepy underbuilding with the Happy Mask Salesman sets the tone. It doesn't remain equally dark throughout and I like the dungeons a lot less then OoT (but I quite liked all the side misions.) But that that last day has that inevitablility of doom feel. And I LOVE that Last Day soundtrack (I have it in my iTunes.) I think the looping destruction also plays into that darker feel- a sort of cycle of death that can't be broken until the very end.
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catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3837 Posts
March 12 2015 22:18 GMT
#32
i think zalda is very drak gam THANKS
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Inertiaddict
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-13 00:17:31
March 13 2015 00:15 GMT
#33
For what it's worth, I think Majora's Mask very well could be the darkest in the series, and mostly for Falling's reasons, and even though I enjoyed it the least and it just felt like a series of sidequests thrown together to me, I also think Twilight Princess (One of my favorites) is right on its heals, if it isn't just as dark. I sort of want to call them equals.

Besides that, I think A Link to Past (the best Zelda game) and Ocarina of Time are essentially similar storylines, and that if OoT is dark then you have to give credit to ALttP as also being equally dark because they did the whole "Golden Land is shrouded into darkness" in both games. They simply didn't have the technology to make ALttP in 3D.

Wind Waker also got dark at the end, but not early enough and not deeply enough.

LoZ definitely has dark themes, but they all embrace it to different degrees. I think the NES games are the least dark. The Gameboy games fall in between OoT and the NES games, in my opinion.

Just my two cents.
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FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
March 13 2015 01:16 GMT
#34
I think Majoras Mask is the darkest because while wind walker there is a flood, if you don't play the time travel song the entire world blows up from the moon crashing into it....absolutely no chance to escape unlike a flood(noah's arc!)
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
March 13 2015 04:49 GMT
#35
On March 13 2015 07:18 catplanetcatplanet wrote:
i think zalda is very drak gam THANKS


come fite me irl m8

On March 13 2015 04:39 starslayer wrote:
i wish i had my last 3 mins back reading this.


I always encourage people to not read, especially books. It can be time-consuming, and you'll lose valuable moments of life that you could be using to do other more important things, like dropping a bowling ball off your roof onto a trampoline just to see what will happen.

On March 12 2015 12:08 wo1fwood wrote:
♥s Nina. Majoras Mask is the shit.


♥

On March 13 2015 06:25 Falling wrote:
This is the darkest timeline.

You are right that OoT is pretty dark, particularly after the Seven Year Advance- that Spirit Temple *shudder. Plus the destruction of the Hyrule Marketplace.

However, I suspect one reason why MM made an impression as 'darker' is due, at least in part, to the beginning. OoT start pretty darn happy in the Kokiri Forest. Yes the Tree is poisoned and dies, but the start is is pretty bright and sunny. Going back to Kokiri as an adult is pretty morose until you clear the Forest Temple (probably my all time favourite dungeon as far as atmosphere, music, and boss.)

Whereas the whole forest scene start, the curse, that creepy underbuilding with the Happy Mask Salesman sets the tone. It doesn't remain equally dark throughout and I like the dungeons a lot less then OoT (but I quite liked all the side misions.) But that that last day has that inevitablility of doom feel. And I LOVE that Last Day soundtrack (I have it in my iTunes.) I think the looping destruction also plays into that darker feel- a sort of cycle of death that can't be broken until the very end.


Majora's Mask undoubtedly has one of the best video game soundtracks. Even after explanation, I still don't understand why Majora's Mask is the darkest one in the series.
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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10347 Posts
March 14 2015 04:06 GMT
#36
Big article on kotaku about how Majora's Mask was a game about DEATH guys.
Historical revisionism darkness
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11607 Posts
March 15 2015 01:19 GMT
#37
Even after explanation, I still don't understand why Majora's Mask is the darkest one in the series.

It might not be the darkest, but I think it's understandably that it is perceived to be the darkest when a dark tone is set at the beginning and the dark feeling book ends all your gameplay and that you experience the end of the world again and again. Perception vs reality- I'm not sure if it is the darkest, but it certainly feels like it.
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Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
March 16 2015 14:30 GMT
#38
On March 11 2015 21:54 Cricketer12 wrote:
For the record, wind waker is the best zelda


1) Ocarina of Time
2) Wind Waker
3) Twilight Princess

Meh...) Majora's Mask

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51626 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-16 14:50:14
March 16 2015 14:43 GMT
#39
the creepiest thing ever(also super controversial) is the original fire temple music in OoT.

On March 14 2015 13:06 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Big article on kotaku about how Majora's Mask was a game about DEATH guys.
Historical revisionism darkness


death is a major theme in the game.

for the record the only zelda game I don't really like is skyward sword(OHMYGODFISHUTUP, literally worse than navi)

On March 13 2015 13:49 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 06:25 Falling wrote:
This is the darkest timeline.

You are right that OoT is pretty dark, particularly after the Seven Year Advance- that Spirit Temple *shudder. Plus the destruction of the Hyrule Marketplace.

However, I suspect one reason why MM made an impression as 'darker' is due, at least in part, to the beginning. OoT start pretty darn happy in the Kokiri Forest. Yes the Tree is poisoned and dies, but the start is is pretty bright and sunny. Going back to Kokiri as an adult is pretty morose until you clear the Forest Temple (probably my all time favourite dungeon as far as atmosphere, music, and boss.)

Whereas the whole forest scene start, the curse, that creepy underbuilding with the Happy Mask Salesman sets the tone. It doesn't remain equally dark throughout and I like the dungeons a lot less then OoT (but I quite liked all the side misions.) But that that last day has that inevitablility of doom feel. And I LOVE that Last Day soundtrack (I have it in my iTunes.) I think the looping destruction also plays into that darker feel- a sort of cycle of death that can't be broken until the very end.


Majora's Mask undoubtedly has one of the best video game soundtracks. Even after explanation, I still don't understand why Majora's Mask is the darkest one in the series.


probably because people bought into the "link is dead" theory or the ben drowned creepy pasta.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-16 15:07:27
March 16 2015 15:05 GMT
#40
The idea that MM is dark has existed for much longer than "link is dead" videos or excessive creepy pasta. It really is probally because its "darkness" is more consistent than OoT. The beginning is very creepy, the main mechanic is turning into dead people with a pretty creepy transformation, some character design is really weird, like the giants and specially the last boss.

OoT also had that kind of stuff, like the town at night, some monster designs and some later dungeons, but it's more about the world becoming a dark place when Ganon takes over.

I can see why some people wouldn't say it's the darkest Zelda, but it's also not that hard to find reasons why so many people find it creepy.
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