EPTFor fun: world's most recognizable living person? - Page 3
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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domane
Canada1606 Posts
More celebrities should be included but I'm not sure which ones stick out from the rest. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
India and China alone make up more than 1/3 of the world population, so you need someone that's known across Asia. Not a single one of these western actors/musicians/etc. would even break the top 10. Africa adds another billion and change. It's like when people talk about who's gonna win the next League/DotA tournament and everyone gets their panties wet for C9 and EG and other irrelevant people and then some faceless Asians whom you've never heard of come and take all the money. | ||
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Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
On October 19 2014 01:19 domane wrote: I would add Oprah and Pope Francis (even though Francis is not his real name) to the list. More celebrities should be included but I'm not sure which ones stick out from the rest. Oprah is just a NA thing. I know she has/d a talkshow in the US and is a stronk independent black women. but I doubt the generation 50+ will know her. Pope(s) in general are not that recognised in East Asia. And Francis has just been in office for some years. maybe john paul II was more well known. I'd also argue for either the US president or some soccer player. everything else just doesn't seem "global" enough. Artists are a tricky thing. They might be up there but i can't think of anyone of the appeal of "the king of pop". Maybe Madonna. edit: maybe this is relevant for musicians. Actors are far harder to tell. edit2: authors are also hard. JK Rowling is a contender, maybe Steven King, but I doubt they are as famous, because every culture has their own writers. I thought about actors and maybe Harrison Ford? he's been in star wars and indiana jones and he's still making movies. | ||
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Prowler
Sweden22 Posts
On October 18 2014 22:36 Scarecrow wrote: Obama's universally known in the West and literally every 10+ year old Korean student I've had knows who he is. I doubt almost all asians knew the president of china, a lot from India and South East Asia probably don't give a shit. Beyonce for music Messi/Beckham/Ronaldo/Usain/Kobe for sport Pitt/Cruise/Depp for film The West has less people than the single country that is China. As stated earlier China and India makes up for 1/3 of the worlds population, what is important is to include them. Who the hell knows who Depp is in India? "According to the 2005 India Human Development Survey, the surveyed households reported that 72 per cent of men did not speak any English, 28 per cent spoke some English, and five per cent spoke fluent English." So about 5% of all Indians can actually understand Depp in his movies, and how many of them has even seen one of them? And of course the president of the United States is well known in your country, if it wasn't for the USA your country wouldn't exist! (I am tempted to include South Korea as part of the West) China is probably the biggest threat that South East Asia has(they have been very aggressive about what they perceive as their territories recently). India has Pakistan but second to that its probably China. The President of China is very relevant to them. The president of the United States is too but its easier to recognize your enemies(threats) than your allies. For example, there is a lot more talk about Putin than Obama in Europe right now, my guess is that Putin is more well known than Obama in Europe. Sure EVERYONE in western Europe knows who Obama is, but everyone also know who Putin is. But what about the uneducated in Belarus, Poland, Lithuania or Ukraine. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On October 19 2014 02:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: You guys are all terrible at evaluating who's actually relevant and famous globally. India and China alone make up more than 1/3 of the world population, so you need someone that's known across Asia. Not a single one of these western actors/musicians/etc. would even break the top 10. Africa adds another billion and change. It's like when people talk about who's gonna win the next League/DotA tournament and everyone gets their panties wet for C9 and EG and other irrelevant people and then some faceless Asians whom you've never heard of come and take all the money. Ok.. so basically what you have done is come in and say "you guys have the wrong answers" but then contributed nothing to solving the actual question  And no, your comparison is wrong actually. The fact is, the west has a bigger worldwide presence than the east in most facets. It's catching up.. sure... but it's not there yet. Compare the amount of money western productions make worldwide to how many eastern ones do, despite asia being way more densely populated. It's not even close. | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13407 Posts
On October 19 2014 05:02 travis wrote: Ok.. so basically what you have done is come in and say "you guys have the wrong answers" but then contributed nothing to solving the actual question And no, your comparison is wrong actually. The fact is, the west has a bigger worldwide presence than the east in most facets. It's catching up.. sure... but it's not there yet. Compare the amount of money western productions make worldwide to how many eastern ones do, despite asia being way more densely populated. It's not even close. Jackie Chan PLZ Everyone knows Jackie Chan. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
The better question is who the second most well recognizable person in the world is. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45979 Posts
On October 19 2014 02:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: You guys are all terrible at evaluating who's actually relevant and famous globally. India and China alone make up more than 1/3 of the world population, so you need someone that's known across Asia. Not a single one of these western actors/musicians/etc. would even break the top 10. Africa adds another billion and change. It's like when people talk about who's gonna win the next League/DotA tournament and everyone gets their panties wet for C9 and EG and other irrelevant people and then some faceless Asians whom you've never heard of come and take all the money. So... who's your pick? EDIT: Also, what you wrote is nothing new to this thread. We're already trying to consider who would be well known in Asia, as shown by the fact that most of the picks aren't "western actors/musicians/etc". And your critique has already been discussed and acknowledged Surely the answer isn't "some faceless Asian" though. If the person is Asian, then he's going to be a famous Asian. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9174 Posts
On October 19 2014 03:31 Prowler wrote: Who the hell knows who Depp is in India? "According to the 2005 India Human Development Survey, the surveyed households reported that 72 per cent of men did not speak any English, 28 per cent spoke some English, and five per cent spoke fluent English." So about 5% of all Indians can actually understand Depp in his movies, and how many of them has even seen one of them? You do realise China and India subtitles major western movies? The top two grossing films in China aren't even domestic (Transformers AoE and Avatar). That's not even including the rampant piracy in DVD's and viewing rooms throughout Asia. Guys like Hugh Jackman/Downey JR would be pretty recognizable. As for saying how relevant the Chinese president is. I think you underestimate the coverage the US and its president, gets for being involved in conflict whilst China's been relatively quiet. Drone strikes in Pakistan. ISIS. Israel-Palestine. Iraq. Afghanistan. Sure the Chinese leader is geopolitically relevant to his neighbours but America's soft and active hard power makes the president very visible for anywhere that has TV/news. | ||
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PassionFruit
294 Posts
Maybe some prominent men in business like Bill Gates. Warren Buffet probably isn't known by those below 18's given there is no actual product attached to his name. Steve Jobs would've been good if he were still alive. For pop culture, maybe Eminem. He's the only white rapper that's been quasi active for over a decade or so through the rise of the rap hip/hop transition in the industry. As one of the beginners in the industry, he's likely had strong exposure across the world as well. A lot of others kind of fizzle out so they're not very cross-generational/geographical. But he's tier 2. MJackson would've been a great choice if he were still alive. MJackson would be up there with the first tier of US presidents imo. Film stars? Maybe Jackie Chan. Maybe Brad Pitt. Maybe Clooney. But only tier 2 or 3. For sports. MJ or some famous soccer dude. Tier 2ish. But in the end, I'd go with Obama, Bush, Clinton, and Putin. Obama is the first black president. Bush is a moron. Clinton got his dick sucked by an intern. And Putin is Putin. Most people seem to at least know these things (a conclusion based on absolutely nothing). | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
Now: I know football is the 'world's sport' but Basketball is ridiculously popular in China(and much of Europe), and LeBron is the face of basketball(Kobe is apparently also mega wtf huge gigantic in China), as well as the advertising face of mega-corporations like McDonalds and Coke and Nike. I am not ignorant to how incredible the reach of athletes like Messi and Ronaldo is, but I truly think LeBron would be the 'most recognizable' in the side discussion of athletes only. At the very least it's not the landslide victory that some perhaps think it is for the football stars. | ||
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XenOsky
Chile2356 Posts
Paul McCartney Kim Taek Yong... | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4420 Posts
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4420 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9174 Posts
On October 19 2014 19:06 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Sir Alex ferguson? He must be up there I doubt he'd be in the top 50 and would be lucky to make a top 5 for soccer. There's no way he's remotely well-known in the US, China and India. | ||
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On October 18 2014 11:01 deathly rat wrote: Bono? Are you joking???? You've got to be hitting people well known in all of Asia, South America and Africa. Beckham has got to be up there. Even people that don't follow football know him. He's way more famous than any other football player. "Married Cher for a while, right?" You don't kow how famous U2 is dude. And lol @ not well known in Africa, Cameroon refugees knew who Bono, Beyoncé, jay-z, you name it are. But especially Bono, their aid work and tours make them quite well known in Africa (them being the band as a whole). Also I have no idea who Beckham is XD I must be out of the loop On October 19 2014 21:15 sabas123 wrote: how about morgan freeman/mandela? More likely Mandela I think. Both seem like a good shot to me | ||
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phiinix
United States1169 Posts
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