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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
Windows 10 Video
So, I was linked to this video by a co-worker:
and I couldn't stop thinking that I have been softly trolled. Some context: I've never used a Windows 8 computer. My main computer runs Windows 7, and I haven't seen any need to upgrade to 8. At work all our computers are exclusively Linux, Unix, and OS X. Essentially, outside of occasionally hearing some people talking about Windows 8, I've heard nothing about it. Yeah, I heard people complaining about the UI, but it seems like 8.1 addressed that. I don't even care enough about the OS wars that are always going on to, like, actively seek out discussion threads about it. I figure, if I get a new PC, it'll have 8 on it, otherwise, why worry about it?
Needless to say, I was baffled by this video. In Windows 7, you have excellent window-snapping (with hotkeys, even! Super + → or Super + ←), you have a search bar in your start menu, and a good customizable menu with a search bar. You also have the ability to *not* fullscreen windows. And my Linux machine, as well as the OS X machines I've seen, all have multiple desktops with discrete views. I assumed Windows 8, as a modern OS, would have these things. I'd seen the whole "fullscreen app" thing and figured you'd have multiple fullscreen spaces to work with.
That's not to say I'm not psyched that Windows will evidently have multiple desktops, but it seems... a bit slow to arrive. I remember that feature 6 years ago on a Mac. Granted, I almost never use it, since I typically have a monitor in addition to a laptop screen, but still. Since the guy was talking about features I assume a fully functional computer OS should definitely already have, I kept on thinking maybe this was a parody or something of Windows being behind the times and checking that this was really the windows channel. No, I'm not being trolled. this is reality.
Not that any of this impacts whether or not I'll get the latest Windows when I buy my next computer, it just was surreal listening to an important person in charge of the latest version of Windows OS describe in loving detail features that I assumed Windows already had. Like a car salesman selling you a new Chevy and describing how the airbags are now full of air instead of ball bearings and spikes, like it's some kind of new revolutionary idea. Just weird. A little scary.
But you gotta buy that Chevy anyways, since it's the only car that can run some of the software you use.
 
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Welp, that's what win 8.1 (or a win 8 SE) could (and should) have looked like. The multiple desktop function is really lol. I knew it from ubuntu, but never used it too. After win 7, the next 'good' windows should be win 9 anyway, if ms follows its own rules 
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On October 01 2014 07:34 Striker.superfreunde wrote:Welp, that's what win 8.1 (or a win 8 SE) could (and should) have looked like. The multiple desktop function is really lol. I knew it from ubuntu, but never used it too. After win 7, the next 'good' windows should be win 9 anyway, if ms follows its own rules
So if they are skipping 9.... does that mean 10 will be bad?
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On October 01 2014 08:44 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 07:34 Striker.superfreunde wrote:Welp, that's what win 8.1 (or a win 8 SE) could (and should) have looked like. The multiple desktop function is really lol. I knew it from ubuntu, but never used it too. After win 7, the next 'good' windows should be win 9 anyway, if ms follows its own rules So if they are skipping 9.... does that mean 10 will be bad?
I wonder if they made an alpha of 9 and it was terrible - then they scrapped it and moved onto 10. If that were the case, maybe there is hope that 10 will be good?
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On October 01 2014 08:44 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 07:34 Striker.superfreunde wrote:Welp, that's what win 8.1 (or a win 8 SE) could (and should) have looked like. The multiple desktop function is really lol. I knew it from ubuntu, but never used it too. After win 7, the next 'good' windows should be win 9 anyway, if ms follows its own rules So if they are skipping 9.... does that mean 10 will be bad?
that stupid meme needs to die in a fire
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the video makes sense if you use Windows 8. The fullscreen thing is about metro apps. Currently they can be run only in fullscreen.
the video highlights window snapping in more ways than just left and right.
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Heh, doesn't look too bad. Looks like they're at least listening to the feedback for win8 so far.
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I feel like many of the complaints about windows 8 were blown out of proportion and often just people being afraid of actual change. Not that some of the changes weren't bad, but I feel like a lot of the negativity was unnecessary.
So far I'm pretty happy with what I hear about this new OS. I read an article talking about a ton of improvements to cmd.exe so command line stuff should be a whole lot less painful. Link
And technically windows did have some built in support for multiple desktops.. Unfortunately what was there wasn't actually possible to use because you couldn't get it to render the other desktops or close/remove/delete them after you'd created one lol.
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I don't get what point you're making with your post haha like you say one thing then contradict it immediately or you say something that doesn't make sense at all, 8 was a ui change that hurt one interaction for a majority of users (already installed discovery) while improving on almost every feature except for platform coherence. 10 is supposed to fix platform coherence, improve the crossplatform developer story and fix the app discovery problem that many users didn't want to learn (with good reasons).
other than those everything they've mentioned is a step up from 7 and 8 so i can't really see how people can find arguments against it other than "i dont like when my ui changes". complaining about windows not having features that mac has like expose is like complaining that you can't snap on macs and then when they implement it complaining that windows had it 6 years ago. every os would benefit from not sucking and implementing good features from competing os's but it's a bit weird to be particularly picky about one versus another.
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
Not saying I'm complaining, all the new features are great, and I'm glad they're all coming. I may even try to put off buying my next computer until Windows 10 is available as a retail OS so that I can have Windows 10 on it. That doesn't change the fact that the entire youtube video seemed kind of surreal to me.
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Heh its interesting because Microsoft have provided separate utilities so that you can have multiple desktops on windows. These being something in Windows NT4 Resource Kit (cant remember the name of the actual application), an XP Power Toy and desktop as part of the sysinternals suite (although they didn't original own it) it just seems they finally decided to include the feature into the actual OS which is bound to be useful although I do wonder what the shortcuts will be.
You still have the Win + Arrows for snapping its just now you can snap upto 4 apps on the screen which is going to take a little getting used to.
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