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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 14:04:57
September 16 2014 01:39 GMT
#1
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Music of dreams ~~~~~

Background: I was talking with a friend about music the other day and how I've always found it to be relaxing to listen to. With tons of great songs, it never really gets boring and the type of music can convey many different emotions which is something I'm fond of. Basically, I was indirectly expressing my admiration for the many musicians out there. Beethoven has always been my favorite musician for masterpieces such as Moonlight Sonata, Piano Concerto No. 5 in E-flat major Op. 73 and others.

My friend decided to make things interesting and challenged me to learn how to play Moonlight Sonata in 6 months time, basically by the beginning of March. Before I go any further, for anyone who is not familiar with Moonlight Sonata, it's a pretty popular music piece. Here's a LINK so that you can listen to it as you read the rest. I've never really played on a piano before and my music knowledge is pretty much 0 at the moment. In other words, I'm a complete newbie starting from scratch who is aiming for the stars (from my perspective). Despite all that, I've always been someone who doesn't back down from a challenge especially one that's this interesting and can also be beneficial.

Plan: I'm going to play the song on a keyboard instead since I don't have a piano lol. I'll start off the usual way, just get familiar with everything like music notes, dos/don't etc... even if it takes a bit longer than I want since I would like to at least get the basics down tight. I'm still debating to the benefits of learning musical scales seeing as those are a time sink and I won't have the luxury of time soon enough. After that, I'll just have to work my way up and eventually start practicing Moonlight Sonata. Seeing as this will be a big challenge (to me at least), I'll just have to dedicate a lot of time to learn it which likely means less BW (T_T) and other activities (Never giving up on writing blogs and SSL/LoveTV though! lol).

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Thoughts: Honestly, it's hard to tell at this point. I've never tried to learn a music song within such time constraints so I can see the outcome fluctuating from me either being a pro at playing Moonlight Sonata by 6 months to completely botching the whole thing and not being able to play much of it which is a possibility. Ideally, I would like to learn to play the whole song (at least the part in the video above) and that's what I plan to work for but this isn't an ideal world and I'm not Beethoven, go figure haha.

This blog was meant to show my commitment to this challenge. I still haven't decided if I'll do monthly updates seeing as some months will likely be slower than others. I'll think of the best way to show that I've learned how to play it (legit showing lol). If anyone has any questions, advice, encouragement or just to tell me I'm crazy, go for it! lol.

Finally, to make things more interesting and fun, the poll!!!!!

Poll: Will Bigfan manage to play all of Moonlight Sonata (youtube link)?

25% of it! (12)
 
35%

None at all! (12)
 
35%

Definitely! (8)
 
24%

75% of it! (1)
 
3%

50% of it! (1)
 
3%

34 total votes

Your vote: Will Bigfan manage to play all of Moonlight Sonata (youtube link)?

(Vote): Definitely!
(Vote): 75% of it!
(Vote): 50% of it!
(Vote): 25% of it!
(Vote): None at all!


Let the challenge begin!

+ Show Spoiler [Update #1] +
I'm 2 days shy of a biweekly update but figured this is the best time to give an update:

Housekeeping business:
My friend decided to give me a small extension till mid March since he wanted it to be a full 6 months and I only started practicing after I wrote this blog. My goal is still to learn the song (1st/2nd movement at least) by March 1 so that there's a buffer zone but figured this was important to mention since it'll give me 2 more weeks to try and get it right if I manage to learn it by March 1.

My progress:
I've been playing about 30 minutes to 1 hour a day. A moderate amount imo for someone who's new to the keyboard. I do realize this isn't a ton of time considering my end goal but I prefer to do things at my own pace and slowly increase my practice time. I'm sure that as the deadline gets closer, I'll start practicing more to try and met it so I'm not the most concerned atm. The learning process has been great so far since it's an enjoyable experience. Nothing feels better than realizing that you can finally play something that you couldn't several days back or even sing with the music as you play it lol.

Of course, there have been some small frustrations along the way. When you first start playing with both hands, you're constantly making silly mistakes even in a simple song with no chords (just normal notes) because you're so focused on your right hand that you can't even slightly focus on the left without messing up. Then once you start learning some chords, you start to realize that those normal notes were easy since you're trying to change several fingers at once now but then with practice, it's not too bad and feels much easier. So as they say, practice! practice! practice! It's all about practice!

In order to show how far I am, I decided to record a couple of songs (part of songs it seems in the book) that were meant as practice. Keep in mind that my timing is likely a bit off for the later songs though those songs also have whole notes, half notes and such which means that it might sound 'better' if you can see the notes (or sing with it at least):


So far, I've learned about hand positioning and some chords (CGF) so future plan would be to just practice those, learn to stretch or assume new finger positions as well as learn more chords and work better on timings (get a metronome). I feel this is the least I can do to give myself a fighting chance when I start learning moonlight sonata. One other thing to mention, make sure to stretch well and take breaks (know your limit) to avoid any wrist injury.

Benefits?
Seeing as this is a SC forum, it's time to ask the most important question of all. How did this affect my BW play? Did my APM skyrocket? Am I a gosu player now? Well, I started playing SK Terran in the last 1-2 weeks despite the fact that it's supposed to be more difficult to control than MnM+Tanks (just feels like my style). I won't claim any major benefits, aka I'm not a gosu player now lol but I've been able to multitask a bit better I think. That or I'm able to remember to actually make units (a bit better at splitting my focus?) so it's nice to go back to my natural and see 20-30 marines just waiting to be dispatched lol. My APM seems to have increased a bit as well but I attribute that to SK Terran requiring more APM overall. Thought it was interesting and I just felt like talking BW so there

To conclude: good fun so far. I likely won't do another update till another month at least since my work schedule is getting busy and I won't have time to practice as much. If I do make some notable progress prior to a month, I'll likely end up updating to share my joy lol.


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Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 16 2014 01:47 GMT
#2
reading/memorizing the music while playing is the hardest part
If you really put your mind to it and you're patient enough, you can definitely do it, this song doesn't sound too difficult but it seems like it could be very frustrating.
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hellokitty[hk]
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1309 Posts
September 16 2014 02:35 GMT
#3
gotta say not a good idea you'd best start of with basics then learn it.
People are imbeciles, lucky thing god made cats.
Sterlymobile
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
September 16 2014 03:27 GMT
#4
BigFan gonna drop this faster than Bakemonogatari
"You sons of a silly person"
Meepman
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada610 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 03:37:55
September 16 2014 03:36 GMT
#5
I'd say it depends on how consistent you are in your practice.

Definitely possible!
Edit: I'd be very interested in bi-weekly updates, or something along those lines.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 06:23:38
September 16 2014 06:17 GMT
#6
On September 16 2014 12:36 Meepman wrote:
I'd say it depends on how consistent you are in your practice.

Definitely possible!
Edit: I'd be very interested in bi-weekly updates, or something along those lines.


hahaha yeah the pressure is ON!

If you do bi-weekly updates or monthy ones like he says, you'll get it for sure!

If you start hating it, it's good news because it means you've been practising enough.
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
Swede
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand853 Posts
September 16 2014 07:19 GMT
#7
Completely possible if you devote like 30 mins a day. You could probably do it faster than 6 months at that rate. Also, the fact that it's rubato will probably help you a lot since your timing can be somewhat imprecise.
nekotrap
Profile Joined April 2011
130 Posts
September 16 2014 07:41 GMT
#8
I thought this was gonna include the 3rd movement but if it's just the 1st then maybe. I suggest you focus more on the fundamentals for the first few months.
A broken carrot is more than enough for the likes of you
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 10:01:54
September 16 2014 09:50 GMT
#9
Third Movement is INSANE
I doubt anyone will be able to play it without a ton of experience

The first movement I think is doable with enough dedication and practice
But I do agree you should learn basics first!
Learning scales are important in the fact you get your fingers used to moving in proper form
Assuming you practice them with proper technique
Spend some time on scales and arpeggios and chords every time you play!

good luck~
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
September 16 2014 09:58 GMT
#10
On September 16 2014 16:19 Swede wrote:
Completely possible if you devote like 30 mins a day. You could probably do it faster than 6 months at that rate. Also, the fact that it's rubato will probably help you a lot since your timing can be somewhat imprecise.


I wouldn't put this type of set time consistency on a newcomer's ability to perform music. I think for the OP, it would probably take 30 minutes a day just to practice the basics including scales, chords, possibly coordinating 2 handed play. It seems like he wants to learn how to play this piece well, so I think he'll need to review more on the basics, although it is possible to play the piece well by pure memorization.

Then again, everyone learns at a different pace. For you BigFan, I definitely think you'll need to invest a lot of well applied practice time if you want to play this piece with the dynamics and consistency as you see in the video. If you're ok with simply completing the piece, it's a different story but I'd invest in lessons or at least carefully review online videos that go over the basics of playing the piano including fingering, timing, and effectively memorizing sheet music. Either way, I hope you find the result you're looking for in the end and keep your progress updated.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 13:00:22
September 16 2014 12:58 GMT
#11
Thanks for all the positive (and negative) comments lol. To start, yes, I do realize that this is a bit much for a beginner but it's supposed to be a challenge. What kind of challenge would it have been had he told me to play some really simple song that I should get down in a week or two? Aside from that, I'm doing this because I thought it'll be fun to learn to play the keyboard and one of my favourite songs. I've been thinking about it for a long time now actually but never really committed to it until my friend recently challenged me so there's intrinsic motivation there as well. Regardless of the outcome, I'm hoping that I'll pick up a useful skill in the end.

I do plan to work on my fundamentals quite a bit and make sure I feel really comfortable otherwise there's no way I can make such a jump. I realize the importance of scales so I'm giving it some thought and might plunge in and just do scales for the first bit or at least touch on them for the movement. Seeing as its my first time, I'm not sure what my learning pace will be like but I'm dedicated enough I feel. Yes, it doesn't include the third movement, that stuff is insane especially for someone with little experience but it could be a future goal. I'm hoping to dedicate more than 30mins a day since some days I won't be able to do any practice and on others, I'll have all the time to do it.

In terms of updates, still mulling that over. It'll either be bi-weekly or maybe I'll update when I feel I've done some significant progress. I think the hardest part will just be getting used to everything and being consistent otherwise I'll fail before I even get started lol. Memorizing it shouldn't be a problem if I listen to it as well. I think that answered all the points raised so far. Thanks for all the advice as well

On September 16 2014 12:27 Sterlymobile wrote:
BigFan gonna drop this faster than Bakemonogatari

LOL. I never dropped Bake so your post is invalid, sorry
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 14:14:46
September 27 2014 14:02 GMT
#12
I'm 2 days shy of a biweekly update but figured this is the best time to give an update:

Housekeeping business:
My friend decided to give me a small extension till mid March since he wanted it to be a full 6 months and I only started practicing after I wrote this blog. My goal is still to learn the song (1st/2nd movement at least) by March 1 so that there's a buffer zone but figured this was important to mention since it'll give me 2 more weeks to try and get it right if I manage to learn it by March 1.

My progress:
I've been playing about 30 minutes to 1 hour a day. A moderate amount imo for someone who's new to the keyboard. I do realize this isn't a ton of time considering my end goal but I prefer to do things at my own pace and slowly increase my practice time. I'm sure that as the deadline gets closer, I'll start practicing more to try and met it so I'm not the most concerned atm. The learning process has been great so far since it's an enjoyable experience. Nothing feels better than realizing that you can finally play something that you couldn't several days back or even sing with the music as you play it lol.

Of course, there have been some small frustrations along the way. When you first start playing with both hands, you're constantly making silly mistakes even in a simple song with no chords (just normal notes) because you're so focused on your right hand that you can't even slightly focus on the left without messing up. Then once you start learning some chords, you start to realize that those normal notes were easy since you're trying to change several fingers at once now but then with practice, it's not too bad and feels much easier. So as they say, practice! practice! practice! It's all about practice!

In order to show how far I am, I decided to record a couple of songs (part of songs it seems in the book) that were meant as practice. Keep in mind that my timing is likely a bit off for the later songs though those songs also have whole notes, half notes and such which means that it might sound 'better' if you can see the notes (or sing with it at least):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czObewblBLw&feature=youtu.be

So far, I've learned about hand positioning and some chords (CGF) so future plan would be to just practice those, learn to stretch or assume new finger positions as well as learn more chords and work better on timings (get a metronome). I feel this is the least I can do to give myself a fighting chance when I start learning moonlight sonata. One other thing to mention, make sure to stretch well and take breaks (know your limit) to avoid any wrist injury.

Benefits?
Seeing as this is a SC forum, it's time to ask the most important question of all. How did this affect my BW play? Did my APM skyrocket? Am I a gosu player now? Well, I started playing SK Terran in the last 1-2 weeks despite the fact that it's supposed to be more difficult to control than MnM+Tanks (just feels like my style). I won't claim any major benefits, aka I'm not a gosu player now lol but I've been able to multitask a bit better I think. That or I'm able to remember to actually make units (a bit better at splitting my focus?) so it's nice to go back to my natural and see 20-30 marines just waiting to be dispatched lol. My APM seems to have increased a bit as well but I attribute that to SK Terran requiring more APM overall. Thought it was interesting and I just felt like talking BW so there

To conclude: good fun so far. I likely won't do another update till another month at least since my work schedule is getting busy and I won't have time to practice as much. If I do make some notable progress prior to a month, I'll likely end up updating to share my joy lol.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 14:16:22
September 27 2014 14:12 GMT
#13
Keep up the good work!
Also, for inspiration here is a youtube video
+ Show Spoiler +


This guy has Cerebral Palsy and plays Moonlight Sonata
I met him before and saw him play, it was very very inspirational
He couldn't even move his hand, let alone his fingers, but worked super hard for his dream to become a reality

Best of luck to you and hope for more updates!
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 28 2014 01:51 GMT
#14
On September 27 2014 23:12 JSH wrote:
Keep up the good work!
Also, for inspiration here is a youtube video
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i_CT4pQbDk


This guy has Cerebral Palsy and plays Moonlight Sonata
I met him before and saw him play, it was very very inspirational
He couldn't even move his hand, let alone his fingers, but worked super hard for his dream to become a reality

Best of luck to you and hope for more updates!

ah wow, thanks for the link! Definitely a hard worker in my book. Thanks for the encouragement as well
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44138 Posts
October 16 2014 17:57 GMT
#15
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