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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 05 2014 06:06 GMT
#21
On August 04 2014 06:35 Defessus wrote:
So KDL Season 3 is down to two casters, both of which are people with SC2 backgrounds?

Are they setting themselves up to fail? Or is the english stream of low priority to SPOTV.

likely low priority. i dont think they care a lot about the quality of casting, so long as somebody is doing it, so they just pick their favorites or maybe long time people.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-05 09:30:29
August 05 2014 09:29 GMT
#22
On August 05 2014 15:06 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 06:35 Defessus wrote:
So KDL Season 3 is down to two casters, both of which are people with SC2 backgrounds?

Are they setting themselves up to fail? Or is the english stream of low priority to SPOTV.

likely low priority. i dont think they care a lot about the quality of casting, so long as somebody is doing it, so they just pick their favorites or maybe long time people.


It indeed is very low priority. The english streams are there so the company can say to a potential investor/partner hey look, we have an english stream we are so modern and globalized!

The only company I've seen put some sort of emphasis on the English casting is OGN, I'm not saying they do a great job but they certainly do better then every other company in Korea.
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
Loomies
Profile Joined July 2010
United States645 Posts
August 05 2014 09:33 GMT
#23
Also the fact that they put you in the closet or somewhere in the back area to cast the games. I fondly remember KDL season 1 production problems but I know they were out of your hands. Kick some ass Whiplash elsewhere!
GodBlessMali
Profile Joined December 2012
France251 Posts
August 06 2014 13:20 GMT
#24
You are going through a lot of shit right now, but don't give up. Someday, it will pay off.
"The man who does more than he is paid for will soon be paid for more than he does." Napoleon Hill
Akari-Akaza
Profile Joined May 2014
Philippines24 Posts
August 06 2014 14:18 GMT
#25
in b4 BTS.Whiplash

Seriously though, don't give up. I've watched your casts during KDL season 2 and they're good. Yeah, it's not up to par with the top English casters but it's clear that you are doing your best to really put on a good cast. I do hope to hear more from you and your casts in the future. You'll get through this.

p.s. to heck with spotv. srsly.
ゆるゆり,始まるよ‼‼‼
AquaHeartNJH
Profile Joined August 2014
3 Posts
August 06 2014 14:42 GMT
#26
One of the reasons why I quit immediately after season 1.

They were also very arbitrary during TI4 as well.
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
August 06 2014 15:09 GMT
#27
Man that's really shit to hear Justin. After our paths crossed briefly during Type II times (speaking of getting fucked over haha) I was quite impressed by you quickly rising up to be an internationally known esports broadcaster. Guess it looked a bit nicer than it was in the end.

The best thing I can recommend to you is to cultivate a deep belief that in the future (whatever that means) everything's gonna be good for you, very good even.

You've already done the right thing by delving straight into a Korea-adventure and you've been on screen and stage a lot. All the while you've been developing great skills, be it speaking, (esports) knowledge or just dealing with a shitty co-worker which you can feed off forever. Also, the hardships you're going through are going to make you faster better harder stronger.

So basically, even though it feels like shit, you're putting in work right now, which is exactly what you need to do in your 20s post graduation - the harder you need to hustle and the more you're killing yourself, the stronger you will emerge.

Good luck with everything, and remember that everything's going to be good.

Namaste.
@nowSimon
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
August 06 2014 15:38 GMT
#28
I feel for you whiplash, the new kdl casters are booty
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Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
August 06 2014 18:18 GMT
#29
Man that really sucks. Now they have a casting duo who are not primary dota players/casters doing the cast and im guessing Brendan(?) has played and watched less than 20 matches of dota. Also the stream was at it's all time peak today and korean doto is definitely getting better and better. Short sighted decision from them to let you go.
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
August 06 2014 21:38 GMT
#30
If zyori can make it on the BTS roster, so can you.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
SpeaKEaSY
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1070 Posts
August 06 2014 22:17 GMT
#31
Tuned into KDL today cause I was curious about Merlini's first game back, and I was surprised that you weren't casting. Digging for info led me here T_T

Sorry about what happened, best of luck to you in the future though, whiplash fighting!
Aim for perfection, settle for mediocrity - KawaiiRice 2014
CaptainEul
Profile Joined July 2013
7 Posts
August 06 2014 23:13 GMT
#32
Hoping for the best for your future endeavors!
Dota 2! www.youtube.com/CaptainEul
Ner0
Profile Joined July 2008
United States131 Posts
August 10 2014 17:40 GMT
#33
Sucks to hear man. Casting is tough and it's even harder when you don't have support behind you.
I certainly felt how you felt in your previous blog posts before. All up to you on how you move forward. eSports grinder is real.
Heflamoke
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany69 Posts
August 12 2014 05:25 GMT
#34
Whiplash is not the only one suffering under SPOTV's crazy policy. This company is also striking many other casters out there. All the recent VODs of HeflaTV got a copyright claim by SPOTV with "visual content". Fun part is, that the visual content is obviously Dota 2 and last time I checked SPOTV wasn't the owner of Valve or it's games.

This means, the VOD monetization is disabled for more than a month and the claims are not answered, meaning they let those claims time out (which is the longest duration if you want to harm other companies, casters, etc). We had alone the first week of August 40 claims and other casters experience the same problem now too.
Nobody at Youtube can help, unless we sue this company...

Copyfraud and more. Way to go apparently for the Koreans.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
August 12 2014 07:38 GMT
#35
On August 05 2014 15:06 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 06:35 Defessus wrote:
So KDL Season 3 is down to two casters, both of which are people with SC2 backgrounds?

Are they setting themselves up to fail? Or is the english stream of low priority to SPOTV.

likely low priority. i dont think they care a lot about the quality of casting, so long as somebody is doing it, so they just pick their favorites or maybe long time people.


They probably don't care about it. I tried watching the english KDL stream a few days ago and I couldn't stand it as the casters literally did not even know what the heroes were.. "Stun goes out from some guy", "Looks like this guy is gonna die"

It was really bad.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Akari-Akaza
Profile Joined May 2014
Philippines24 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 18:10:03
August 12 2014 18:09 GMT
#36
On August 12 2014 14:25 Heflamoke wrote:
Whiplash is not the only one suffering under SPOTV's crazy policy. This company is also striking many other casters out there. All the recent VODs of HeflaTV got a copyright claim by SPOTV with "visual content". Fun part is, that the visual content is obviously Dota 2 and last time I checked SPOTV wasn't the owner of Valve or it's games.

This means, the VOD monetization is disabled for more than a month and the claims are not answered, meaning they let those claims time out (which is the longest duration if you want to harm other companies, casters, etc). We had alone the first week of August 40 claims and other casters experience the same problem now too.
Nobody at Youtube can help, unless we sue this company...

Copyfraud and more. Way to go apparently for the Koreans.


Which VODs are we talking about here? anything related to Korean Doto? Or even the TI4/non-Korean doto stuff?
ゆるゆり,始まるよ‼‼‼
Heflamoke
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany69 Posts
September 01 2014 14:20 GMT
#37
On August 13 2014 03:09 Akari-Akaza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 14:25 Heflamoke wrote:
Whiplash is not the only one suffering under SPOTV's crazy policy. This company is also striking many other casters out there. All the recent VODs of HeflaTV got a copyright claim by SPOTV with "visual content". Fun part is, that the visual content is obviously Dota 2 and last time I checked SPOTV wasn't the owner of Valve or it's games.

This means, the VOD monetization is disabled for more than a month and the claims are not answered, meaning they let those claims time out (which is the longest duration if you want to harm other companies, casters, etc). We had alone the first week of August 40 claims and other casters experience the same problem now too.
Nobody at Youtube can help, unless we sue this company...

Copyfraud and more. Way to go apparently for the Koreans.


Which VODs are we talking about here? anything related to Korean Doto? Or even the TI4/non-Korean doto stuff?


Everything, VECL, MPGL, G1 Challenge, even JDL Asia. They claim everything. In summary HeflaTV had about 200 claims by SPOTV leaving all vids not monetized / listed for 30days+. All support requests on Youtube failed and they forwarded us to SPOTV, which didnt reply to anything obviously.

That's how business is done apparently. Knock out everyone else by making a roundhouse-claim on any Dota2 content.
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