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Nice! CC to UC is quite smart, a lot a of people here in cali do it nowadays. It's a good way to graduate from a well respected public university system.
There's actually very little reason to pursue an associate's degree unless it coincides/deviates very little from your transfer plans. I mean, unless you REALLY wanted some sort of 2-year checkpoint, it's better to just sign a transfer agreement after your first year and achieve it so you can transfer ASAP to a 4-year. From my time, that was the quickest way to transfer. Good luck!
If you plan on transferring in 1 year, you will have to go through the normal application process (which is still favorable to international students).
Given that the most popular transfer agreement (IGETC) has so many required (or suggested) units, it takes at least 2 years, often 3, to transfer... at least that's the case with STEM majors. For instance, if you go into a CC taking calc 1, it will be 4-5 semesters minimum before you finish all the math, which goes up to Differential Eqn and Linear. For other majors it's easier.
It's a good idea to stay at a CC for as long as possible, it's cheaper that way. So while it's possible to complete it in 2 years, most people I know of do it in 3 years (all STEM and work at least part time).
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are you going to compete again?
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On June 26 2014 10:19 esReveR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2014 01:48 Lovedrop wrote:
There's actually very little reason to pursue an associate's degree unless it coincides/deviates very little from your transfer plans. I mean, unless you REALLY wanted some sort of 2-year checkpoint, it's better to just sign a transfer agreement after your first year and achieve it so you can transfer ASAP to a 4-year. From my time, that was the quickest way to transfer. Good luck! From his previous blogs, the reason is cost. There is nothing wrong with earning an associates degree in a community college and transferring to a four year university to work on a bachelor's after.
True but it's not like you need an associates to transfer to a university. I think what Lovedrops is saying is that there is a lot of cases where earning that associates degree will cost you more because you take classes not necessary for the bachelors you're aiming for.
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Congratulations, Rain! I wish you only good fortune in our country!
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On June 28 2014 15:01 eNtitY~ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2014 10:19 esReveR wrote:On June 26 2014 01:48 Lovedrop wrote:
There's actually very little reason to pursue an associate's degree unless it coincides/deviates very little from your transfer plans. I mean, unless you REALLY wanted some sort of 2-year checkpoint, it's better to just sign a transfer agreement after your first year and achieve it so you can transfer ASAP to a 4-year. From my time, that was the quickest way to transfer. Good luck! From his previous blogs, the reason is cost. There is nothing wrong with earning an associates degree in a community college and transferring to a four year university to work on a bachelor's after. True but it's not like you need an associates to transfer to a university. I think what Lovedrops is saying is that there is a lot of cases where earning that associates degree will cost you more because you take classes not necessary for the bachelors you're aiming for.
^ I'm not advocating that he skips CC, and I understand that cost is already a factor. That being said, you do not NEED an associate's degree to transfer. The best way to transfer is do very well your first year, and go to your transfer career center and apply for a TAG application (example) It's the quickest and most efficient way to guarantee your transfer from a California CC to a 4-year.
On June 26 2014 16:58 Introvert wrote:Show nested quote +Nice! CC to UC is quite smart, a lot a of people here in cali do it nowadays. It's a good way to graduate from a well respected public university system. There's actually very little reason to pursue an associate's degree unless it coincides/deviates very little from your transfer plans. I mean, unless you REALLY wanted some sort of 2-year checkpoint, it's better to just sign a transfer agreement after your first year and achieve it so you can transfer ASAP to a 4-year. From my time, that was the quickest way to transfer. Good luck! If you plan on transferring in 1 year, you will have to go through the normal application process (which is still favorable to international students). Given that the most popular transfer agreement (IGETC) has so many required (or suggested) units, it takes at least 2 years, often 3, to transfer... at least that's the case with STEM majors. For instance, if you go into a CC taking calc 1, it will be 4-5 semesters minimum before you finish all the math, which goes up to Differential Eqn and Linear. For other majors it's easier. It's a good idea to stay at a CC for as long as possible, it's cheaper that way. So while it's possible to complete it in 2 years, most people I know of do it in 3 years (all STEM and work at least part time).
There's a difference between IGETC and getting an "associate's degree". The difference is that the associate's degree path contains classes that are not required if all you wanted to do is transfer. It's better to do something like IGETC (in his case, not IGETC but the UC one).
You do not need to finish every Area in your breadth pattern to transfer. That is a common misconception among transfer students. The only requirements to transfer is ENGL1A-1B, 1 MATH (which you're doing as STEM anyways), 4 courses in various GEs, and 60 semester units/90 quarter units. That is the minimum to transfer and what your TAG application will require you to do. The only difference for a STEM major is that your 60/90 units will not be filled with GEs, but mostly lower division STEM classes. This is because STEM majors are often required to go through a preparatory path to guarantee their TAG. The best way to see what to take these two years is going by ASSIST and seeing which classes are transferable that are vital to your major and get as many done as possible. It is impossible to finish them in the span of three years, since there's about 4-5 sequences that you have to go through.
Again, I'm just making it clear that I'm not telling him to skip CC. CC is a great money-saver, (although still costly to international students), and a good place to get started.
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Is your chosen community college happen to be in the South Bay? I know a lot of Koreans living in Santa Clara. A Korean friend of mine is on visa and went to San Jose State with me. I hope it's South Bay, which is where I live.
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Dang Rain, you should have followed Polt and Violet and come to Atlanta! Good luck!
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On June 28 2014 18:36 Lovedrop wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2014 15:01 eNtitY~ wrote:On June 26 2014 10:19 esReveR wrote:On June 26 2014 01:48 Lovedrop wrote:
There's actually very little reason to pursue an associate's degree unless it coincides/deviates very little from your transfer plans. I mean, unless you REALLY wanted some sort of 2-year checkpoint, it's better to just sign a transfer agreement after your first year and achieve it so you can transfer ASAP to a 4-year. From my time, that was the quickest way to transfer. Good luck! From his previous blogs, the reason is cost. There is nothing wrong with earning an associates degree in a community college and transferring to a four year university to work on a bachelor's after. True but it's not like you need an associates to transfer to a university. I think what Lovedrops is saying is that there is a lot of cases where earning that associates degree will cost you more because you take classes not necessary for the bachelors you're aiming for. ^ I'm not advocating that he skips CC, and I understand that cost is already a factor. That being said, you do not NEED an associate's degree to transfer. The best way to transfer is do very well your first year, and go to your transfer career center and apply for a TAG application (example) It's the quickest and most efficient way to guarantee your transfer from a California CC to a 4-year. Show nested quote +On June 26 2014 16:58 Introvert wrote:Nice! CC to UC is quite smart, a lot a of people here in cali do it nowadays. It's a good way to graduate from a well respected public university system. There's actually very little reason to pursue an associate's degree unless it coincides/deviates very little from your transfer plans. I mean, unless you REALLY wanted some sort of 2-year checkpoint, it's better to just sign a transfer agreement after your first year and achieve it so you can transfer ASAP to a 4-year. From my time, that was the quickest way to transfer. Good luck! If you plan on transferring in 1 year, you will have to go through the normal application process (which is still favorable to international students). Given that the most popular transfer agreement (IGETC) has so many required (or suggested) units, it takes at least 2 years, often 3, to transfer... at least that's the case with STEM majors. For instance, if you go into a CC taking calc 1, it will be 4-5 semesters minimum before you finish all the math, which goes up to Differential Eqn and Linear. For other majors it's easier. It's a good idea to stay at a CC for as long as possible, it's cheaper that way. So while it's possible to complete it in 2 years, most people I know of do it in 3 years (all STEM and work at least part time). There's a difference between IGETC and getting an "associate's degree". The difference is that the associate's degree path contains classes that are not required if all you wanted to do is transfer. It's better to do something like IGETC (in his case, not IGETC but the UC one). You do not need to finish every Area in your breadth pattern to transfer. That is a common misconception among transfer students. The only requirements to transfer is ENGL1A-1B, 1 MATH (which you're doing as STEM anyways), 4 courses in various GEs, and 60 semester units/90 quarter units. That is the minimum to transfer and what your TAG application will require you to do. The only difference for a STEM major is that your 60/90 units will not be filled with GEs, but mostly lower division STEM classes. This is because STEM majors are often required to go through a preparatory path to guarantee their TAG. The best way to see what to take these two years is going by ASSIST and seeing which classes are transferable that are vital to your major and get as many done as possible. It is impossible to finish them in the span of three years, since there's about 4-5 sequences that you have to go through. Again, I'm just making it clear that I'm not telling him to skip CC. CC is a great money-saver, (although still costly to international students), and a good place to get started.
Sorry, it was late that night. I was refereeing to the TAG taking 3 years. I know all about the GEs for STEM majors... just finishing the chemistry series can be way overkill, depending on your major. But the TAG is much better than simply finishing IGETC, or imo, than just doing the Associates degrees. Either of which are better than simply applying after taking a few of the core classes.
At any rate, spend as little as you can!
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I just played your id from 3 years ago (bcuzofupros) on NA server. Was that really you? If it is then your offraces are very impressive beating me.
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congratz 
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