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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-12 04:12:05
April 12 2014 04:04 GMT
#21
Team Solid

Main Team
6 (T)Bbyong (captain)
3 (Z)Life
3 (Z)Rogue(Savage)
7 (Z)RorO
6 (Z)Soulkey
1 (P)Terminator
4 CJ Entus

Anti Team
3 (Z)Effort
3 (Z)Leenock
7 (P)Super

I'm sure you have plenty on your plate, but what do you think of this? I was considering changing CJ to prime so i could swap Bbyong for herO, completing my ultimate abandonment of my morals and principles. Also slightly nervous about Super on my anti team, but I'm just not sure what to do there
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-12 04:22:52
April 12 2014 04:20 GMT
#22
On April 12 2014 13:04 Yorkie wrote:
Team Solid

Main Team
6 (T)Bbyong (captain)
3 (Z)Life
3 (Z)Rogue(Savage)
7 (Z)RorO
6 (Z)Soulkey
1 (P)Terminator
4 CJ Entus

Anti Team
3 (Z)Effort
3 (Z)Leenock
7 (P)Super

I'm sure you have plenty on your plate, but what do you think of this? I was considering changing CJ to prime so i could swap Bbyong for herO, completing my ultimate abandonment of my morals and principles. Also slightly nervous about Super on my anti team, but I'm just not sure what to do there


Let's say CJ goes 4-3 or 5-2 and gets about 14-15 points, while Prime gets about 5. That's 9 points. Do you see herO winning >2 normal games + ace matches than BByong? If yes, then it should cover the cost.

Yeah, your anti is a little bit risky. I would say effort is an okay choice if he didn't have his best matchup (ZvZ) in the first week, so why not pick one of the 3 pointers who doesn't play at all?

Leenock can easily be traded off if he starts appearing, but that means you can't trade Super in the same week.

Super is a top 2 player in MVP so he will probably play from next week onwards. It's kind of a gamble because you are hoping that there is someone to trade for, or hoping that he screws up horribly.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
April 12 2014 04:34 GMT
#23
On April 12 2014 13:20 Pangpootata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2014 13:04 Yorkie wrote:
Team Solid

Main Team
6 (T)Bbyong (captain)
3 (Z)Life
3 (Z)Rogue(Savage)
7 (Z)RorO
6 (Z)Soulkey
1 (P)Terminator
4 CJ Entus

Anti Team
3 (Z)Effort
3 (Z)Leenock
7 (P)Super

I'm sure you have plenty on your plate, but what do you think of this? I was considering changing CJ to prime so i could swap Bbyong for herO, completing my ultimate abandonment of my morals and principles. Also slightly nervous about Super on my anti team, but I'm just not sure what to do there


Let's say CJ goes 4-3 or 5-2 and gets about 14-15 points, while Prime gets about 5. That's 9 points. Do you see herO winning >2 normal games + ace matches than BByong? If yes, then it should cover the cost.

Yeah, your anti is a little bit risky. I would say effort is an okay choice if he didn't have his best matchup (ZvZ) in the first week, so why not pick one of the 3 pointers who doesn't play at all?

Leenock can easily be traded off if he starts appearing, but that means you can't trade Super in the same week.

Super is a top 2 player in MVP so he will probably play from next week onwards. It's kind of a gamble because you are hoping that there is someone to trade for, or hoping that he screws up horribly.

Well if (T)Bbyong plays like he did last round it isn't worth it, but I'm not so sure that will happen. I don't really like any of the other 7 pointers so i revamped my anti to be (Z)TRUE, (T)Bunny, and (T)KeeN. I think that's better, with only Keen playing this week (and against creator) and True and Bunny being overrated and not playing
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-12 05:08:49
April 12 2014 05:08 GMT
#24
Lets do this shit

Main Team
6 (Z)Byul
3 (T)Reality
3 (Z)Rogue(Savage)
7 (Z)RorO
6 (Z)Soulkey
1 (P)Terminator (captain)
4 SK Telecom T1

Anti Team
4 (T)Bunny
5 (T)Keen
4 (P)Yonghwa

Would you mind looking at my team for me?

Main Team

I have three people (Byul, Soulkey, and RorO) who i feel will come out as the ace for their team, Terminator is bound to get some play time, so at one point he's a steal. Rouge did just as well as some 6 pointers like fantasy last round, so i don't understand why he's three. I'm not super sure about my Reality pick, but he looked good against zerg in Code A and i have no idea how is TvT is, so i'm hoping Samsung Khan sends him out a bunch so that he's worth 3 points.

Anti Team


I felt Bunny was super overvalued at 4 points, and he's not getting played this week so thats a good sign. I see Keen picking up a win here and there, but he was wayyy overvalued in my opinion. Younghwa had the misfortune of being 1/500 protosses on LGIM, so he's probably going to miss a lot of matches because LGIM has too many players.

Question:
So i have both Byul and Soulkey on my main team, and am planning on keeping them for the long haul unless something crazy happens. but i noticed they were facing each other this week. is it ok that i guarantee a player a win, even if it means another player is guaranteed a loss?
#1 Official Hack Fan|#2 Bomber behind Wintex.|Curious|Life|Flash|TY|Cure|Maru|sOs|Jin Air Green Wings fighting!|SBENU Fighting!|
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
April 12 2014 05:17 GMT
#25
On April 12 2014 14:08 partydude89 wrote:
Lets do this shit

Main Team
6 (Z)Byul
3 (T)Reality
3 (Z)Rogue(Savage)
7 (Z)RorO
6 (Z)Soulkey
1 (P)Terminator (captain)
4 SK Telecom T1

Anti Team
4 (T)Bunny
5 (T)Keen
4 (P)Yonghwa

Would you mind looking at my team for me?

Main Team

I have three people (Byul, Soulkey, and RorO) who i feel will come out as the ace for their team, Terminator is bound to get some play time, so at one point he's a steal. Rouge did just as well as some 6 pointers like fantasy last round, so i don't understand why he's three. I'm not super sure about my Reality pick, but he looked good against zerg in Code A and i have no idea how is TvT is, so i'm hoping Samsung Khan sends him out a bunch so that he's worth 3 points.

Anti Team


I felt Bunny was super overvalued at 4 points, and he's not getting played this week so thats a good sign. I see Keen picking up a win here and there, but he was wayyy overvalued in my opinion. Younghwa had the misfortune of being 1/500 protosses on LGIM, so he's probably going to miss a lot of matches because LGIM has too many players.

Question:
So i have both Byul and Soulkey on my main team, and am planning on keeping them for the long haul unless something crazy happens. but i noticed they were facing each other this week. is it ok that i guarantee a player a win, even if it means another player is guaranteed a loss?


If Reality loses his first 2 matches, his value will go so low that you can't get rid of him. However, there is a chance that he may be like Fantasy/BByong last round, and suddenly become pro. But in my opinion, it's not a safe pick.

If you have 2 players playing each other, you will get a safe outcome that will never be too wonderful or bad for you. However, it is better to have 2 low point players facing each other than 2 high point players facing each other, because high point players are expected to win, and you might be satisfied with a 50% winrate for low point players. It's okay to pick both Byul and Soulkey if you expect them to be locks from week 2 onwards.
partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
April 12 2014 05:23 GMT
#26
On April 12 2014 14:17 Pangpootata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2014 14:08 partydude89 wrote:
Lets do this shit

Main Team
6 (Z)Byul
3 (T)Reality
3 (Z)Rogue(Savage)
7 (Z)RorO
6 (Z)Soulkey
1 (P)Terminator (captain)
4 SK Telecom T1

Anti Team
4 (T)Bunny
5 (T)Keen
4 (P)Yonghwa

Would you mind looking at my team for me?

Main Team

I have three people (Byul, Soulkey, and RorO) who i feel will come out as the ace for their team, Terminator is bound to get some play time, so at one point he's a steal. Rouge did just as well as some 6 pointers like fantasy last round, so i don't understand why he's three. I'm not super sure about my Reality pick, but he looked good against zerg in Code A and i have no idea how is TvT is, so i'm hoping Samsung Khan sends him out a bunch so that he's worth 3 points.

Anti Team


I felt Bunny was super overvalued at 4 points, and he's not getting played this week so thats a good sign. I see Keen picking up a win here and there, but he was wayyy overvalued in my opinion. Younghwa had the misfortune of being 1/500 protosses on LGIM, so he's probably going to miss a lot of matches because LGIM has too many players.

Question:
So i have both Byul and Soulkey on my main team, and am planning on keeping them for the long haul unless something crazy happens. but i noticed they were facing each other this week. is it ok that i guarantee a player a win, even if it means another player is guaranteed a loss?


If Reality loses his first 2 matches, his value will go so low that you can't get rid of him. However, there is a chance that he may be like Fantasy/BByong last round, and suddenly become pro. But in my opinion, it's not a safe pick.

If you have 2 players playing each other, you will get a safe outcome that will never be too wonderful or bad for you. However, it is better to have 2 low point players facing each other than 2 high point players facing each other, because high point players are expected to win, and you might be satisfied with a 50% winrate for low point players. It's okay to pick both Byul and Soulkey if you expect them to be locks from week 2 onwards.


So who would you suggest changing Reality to that would be a safer pick? or what would you just do in general to help my team? I'm kinda desperate, as i keep losing to my brother and really want to beat him this time.
#1 Official Hack Fan|#2 Bomber behind Wintex.|Curious|Life|Flash|TY|Cure|Maru|sOs|Jin Air Green Wings fighting!|SBENU Fighting!|
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
April 12 2014 07:12 GMT
#27
On April 12 2014 14:23 partydude89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2014 14:17 Pangpootata wrote:
On April 12 2014 14:08 partydude89 wrote:
Lets do this shit

Main Team
6 (Z)Byul
3 (T)Reality
3 (Z)Rogue(Savage)
7 (Z)RorO
6 (Z)Soulkey
1 (P)Terminator (captain)
4 SK Telecom T1

Anti Team
4 (T)Bunny
5 (T)Keen
4 (P)Yonghwa

Would you mind looking at my team for me?

Main Team

I have three people (Byul, Soulkey, and RorO) who i feel will come out as the ace for their team, Terminator is bound to get some play time, so at one point he's a steal. Rouge did just as well as some 6 pointers like fantasy last round, so i don't understand why he's three. I'm not super sure about my Reality pick, but he looked good against zerg in Code A and i have no idea how is TvT is, so i'm hoping Samsung Khan sends him out a bunch so that he's worth 3 points.

Anti Team


I felt Bunny was super overvalued at 4 points, and he's not getting played this week so thats a good sign. I see Keen picking up a win here and there, but he was wayyy overvalued in my opinion. Younghwa had the misfortune of being 1/500 protosses on LGIM, so he's probably going to miss a lot of matches because LGIM has too many players.

Question:
So i have both Byul and Soulkey on my main team, and am planning on keeping them for the long haul unless something crazy happens. but i noticed they were facing each other this week. is it ok that i guarantee a player a win, even if it means another player is guaranteed a loss?


If Reality loses his first 2 matches, his value will go so low that you can't get rid of him. However, there is a chance that he may be like Fantasy/BByong last round, and suddenly become pro. But in my opinion, it's not a safe pick.

If you have 2 players playing each other, you will get a safe outcome that will never be too wonderful or bad for you. However, it is better to have 2 low point players facing each other than 2 high point players facing each other, because high point players are expected to win, and you might be satisfied with a 50% winrate for low point players. It's okay to pick both Byul and Soulkey if you expect them to be locks from week 2 onwards.


So who would you suggest changing Reality to that would be a safer pick? or what would you just do in general to help my team? I'm kinda desperate, as i keep losing to my brother and really want to beat him this time.

Your team is quite good overall. Reality is not necessarily bad, it's just that he can do really well or really crappily. Hold on to him if you believe in him.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
April 12 2014 08:37 GMT
#28
Why do I keep betting CJ

Main Team
6 (T)Bbyong
4 (T)Bunny
3 (Z)Effort
9 (P)herO[jOin]
1 (P)Hush (captain)
3 (P)Sora
4 CJ Entus

Anti Team
6 (Z)Byul
5 (T)Keen
2 (P)State


I decided to go for theme instead of trying to win lol
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
April 12 2014 09:58 GMT
#29
On April 12 2014 17:37 gobbledydook wrote:
Why do I keep betting CJ

Main Team
6 (T)Bbyong
4 (T)Bunny
3 (Z)Effort
9 (P)herO[jOin]
1 (P)Hush (captain)
3 (P)Sora
4 CJ Entus

Anti Team
6 (Z)Byul
5 (T)Keen
2 (P)State


I decided to go for theme instead of trying to win lol

Of the CJ players, Bunny is very overpriced and Sora somewhat, given that they won't play much. If I were you, I would swap those 2 out for better ones, since 4 CJ players and CJ as the team is good enough for a thematic team.
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
April 12 2014 10:31 GMT
#30
Thanks for the guide!
I guess that we'll now see a proliferation of teams with Roro, Rogue, Soulkey and MKP; and Bunny, True and Keen on the anti.

To win the season it would probably be a good idea to go against your predictions .
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
forsakeNXE
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany539 Posts
April 12 2014 13:28 GMT
#31
Awesome Guide thx alot made some adjustments
Let's learn together!
hai2u
Profile Joined September 2011
688 Posts
April 12 2014 14:34 GMT
#32
good analysis and pretty similar to my team, looks like alot of people will have similar teams this round after reading this guide .

ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
April 12 2014 16:19 GMT
#33
>roro is a good pick
>picked roro on previous anti team

it's like you don't even know the first rule of FPL
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
April 12 2014 23:18 GMT
#34
Thanks for the guide! I made some changes and I am way more sure about my team now
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
April 12 2014 23:22 GMT
#35
On April 12 2014 18:58 Pangpootata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2014 17:37 gobbledydook wrote:
Why do I keep betting CJ

Main Team
6 (T)Bbyong
4 (T)Bunny
3 (Z)Effort
9 (P)herO[jOin]
1 (P)Hush (captain)
3 (P)Sora
4 CJ Entus

Anti Team
6 (Z)Byul
5 (T)Keen
2 (P)State


I decided to go for theme instead of trying to win lol

Of the CJ players, Bunny is very overpriced and Sora somewhat, given that they won't play much. If I were you, I would swap those 2 out for better ones, since 4 CJ players and CJ as the team is good enough for a thematic team.


If it ain't full CJ, it ain't CJ!
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
April 12 2014 23:30 GMT
#36
On April 13 2014 08:22 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2014 18:58 Pangpootata wrote:
On April 12 2014 17:37 gobbledydook wrote:
Why do I keep betting CJ

Main Team
6 (T)Bbyong
4 (T)Bunny
3 (Z)Effort
9 (P)herO[jOin]
1 (P)Hush (captain)
3 (P)Sora
4 CJ Entus

Anti Team
6 (Z)Byul
5 (T)Keen
2 (P)State


I decided to go for theme instead of trying to win lol

Of the CJ players, Bunny is very overpriced and Sora somewhat, given that they won't play much. If I were you, I would swap those 2 out for better ones, since 4 CJ players and CJ as the team is good enough for a thematic team.


If it ain't full CJ, it ain't CJ!

If you're just going to go all CJ why are you posting in a guide thread haha
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
April 13 2014 03:25 GMT
#37
no roro i win

Main Team
6 (T)Bbyong (captain)
3 (Z)Life
6 (P)Parting
3 (Z)Rogue(Savage)
6 (Z)Soulkey
2 (P)TAiLS
4 SK Telecom T1

Anti Team
4 (T)Bunny
6 (T)Cure(Speed)
3 (Z)Sniper

I originally had herO as captain and reality as my terran so i could submit the team. but after reading your article i switched out herO, moved up reality -> bbyong, and added soulkey. Good move or bad? Also i dont think should have bbyong as my captain, but I dont know who is a good captain.

I appreciate all the help.
$O$ | soO
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-13 04:53:05
April 13 2014 04:52 GMT
#38
I personally take more of my inspiration from this blog and its showing of strong teams in the OP: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/439359-how-to-fpl-14 (Oh and quick scroll wheel usage to pick players.)

LAST PLACE

Main Team
8 (T)Flash (captain)
3 (Z)Rogue(Savage)
3 (Z)Shine
3 (Z)Solar
3 (P)Sora
4 (P)Yonghwa
6 KT Rolster

Anti Team
4 (T)Bunny
5 (T)Keen
4 (P)Stork
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
April 13 2014 06:31 GMT
#39
On April 13 2014 12:25 iMrising wrote:
no roro i win

Main Team
6 (T)Bbyong (captain)
3 (Z)Life
6 (P)Parting
3 (Z)Rogue(Savage)
6 (Z)Soulkey
2 (P)TAiLS
4 SK Telecom T1

Anti Team
4 (T)Bunny
6 (T)Cure(Speed)
3 (Z)Sniper

I originally had herO as captain and reality as my terran so i could submit the team. but after reading your article i switched out herO, moved up reality -> bbyong, and added soulkey. Good move or bad? Also i dont think should have bbyong as my captain, but I dont know who is a good captain.

I appreciate all the help.

Your main and anti teams are generally quite solid. But for captain, you would want a player who is a constant lock throughout the season, and can perform decently well. Assuming that last round is a good indicator, BByong and Rogue are the least likely to get rotated out of the lineup. But I would rather make Rogue the captain, because he is so undervalued at 3 points that even if his value rises to 4 or 5, I wouldn't trade him away. BByong on the other hand, might rise in value from 6 to 7, and you can get a good trade.

On April 13 2014 13:52 Yurie wrote:
I personally take more of my inspiration from this blog and its showing of strong teams in the OP: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/439359-how-to-fpl-14 (Oh and quick scroll wheel usage to pick players.)

LAST PLACE

Main Team
8 (T)Flash (captain)
3 (Z)Rogue(Savage)
3 (Z)Shine
3 (Z)Solar
3 (P)Sora
4 (P)Yonghwa
6 KT Rolster

Anti Team
4 (T)Bunny
5 (T)Keen
4 (P)Stork


Shine, Solar, Sora and Yonghwa don't have full playing time in the first week. Might I suggest you start off with players who actually play, and trade for these guys later?
iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
April 13 2014 17:27 GMT
#40
do you mind explaining the choices you made for yourself?
$O$ | soO
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