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Thoughts on the the Health of the scene

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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
March 16 2014 19:24 GMT
#1
Post-IEM, my thoughts on the health of the scene right now - https://soundcloud.com/totalbiscuit/official-starcraft-2-dick

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CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
March 16 2014 19:31 GMT
#2
That's a fantastic URL.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Gotard
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland446 Posts
March 16 2014 19:33 GMT
#3
Can you post here your main points or full transcription. Some ppl can read and don't like to listen for 17 minutes when they'd read all you have said few times faster.
"who needs girls when u can play as a protoss or riki" Fen1kz 2013
RevTiberius
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada353 Posts
March 16 2014 19:35 GMT
#4
I agree that the scene is healthier than it seems. As I just wrote in my blog last night:

"I have always thought that this "bullshit" about "SC2 dying" is largely just people bashing the game, trying to turn this into a self-fulfilling prophecy."

And yet, I feel more could be done to keep SC2 viable as a career for pro-gamers because without a vibrant pro gaming community, there are no exciting tournaments that attract a great viewership to begin with.

Read the full post here:
http://revtiberius.blogspot.ca/2014/03/the-case-against-top-heavy-prize-funds.html
Teaching Chess to a Starcraft 2 Grandmaster: http://revtiberius.blogspot.ca
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
March 16 2014 19:35 GMT
#5
so, i cant hear anything, same for the twitch chat blog.
am i just retarded or are there some known soundcloud issues?
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 19:43:09
March 16 2014 19:42 GMT
#6
On March 17 2014 04:33 Gotard wrote:
Can you post here your main points or full transcription. Some ppl can read and don't like to listen for 17 minutes when they'd read all you have said few times faster.


Transcript implies I wrote this down before I said it. I didn't.

I understand you don't "like to listen for 17 minutes" but I don't like to type for 30+ either, I have better shit to do.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Gotard
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland446 Posts
March 16 2014 19:51 GMT
#7
On March 17 2014 04:42 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 04:33 Gotard wrote:
Can you post here your main points or full transcription. Some ppl can read and don't like to listen for 17 minutes when they'd read all you have said few times faster.


Transcript implies I wrote this down before I said it. I didn't.

I understand you don't "like to listen for 17 minutes" but I don't like to type for 30+ either, I have better shit to do.

You should have some crazy fans that could that for ya! To be honest I assumed that you have some notes with main points of your speech and it would take only few minutes to include that in your post.
"who needs girls when u can play as a protoss or riki" Fen1kz 2013
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 20:04:01
March 16 2014 19:57 GMT
#8
Best intro ever, that being said you make a fair point. It was ludicrous reading the LR thread for Katowice and having people in the first three pages going, "only 20k viewers..."
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
March 16 2014 20:05 GMT
#9
On March 17 2014 04:51 Gotard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 04:42 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On March 17 2014 04:33 Gotard wrote:
Can you post here your main points or full transcription. Some ppl can read and don't like to listen for 17 minutes when they'd read all you have said few times faster.


Transcript implies I wrote this down before I said it. I didn't.

I understand you don't "like to listen for 17 minutes" but I don't like to type for 30+ either, I have better shit to do.

You should have some crazy fans that could that for ya! To be honest I assumed that you have some notes with main points of your speech and it would take only few minutes to include that in your post.


I wouldnt trust em not to bugger it up.

That said, my style of speech in these impromptu audio blogs is not suitable for a written blog
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
March 16 2014 20:05 GMT
#10
Just by looking at viewer numbers for the biggest tournaments over the last ~3-4 months the decline in viewership seems to have stopped and seems to actually have increased a little bit.

no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
March 16 2014 20:10 GMT
#11
On March 17 2014 05:05 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 04:51 Gotard wrote:
On March 17 2014 04:42 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On March 17 2014 04:33 Gotard wrote:
Can you post here your main points or full transcription. Some ppl can read and don't like to listen for 17 minutes when they'd read all you have said few times faster.


Transcript implies I wrote this down before I said it. I didn't.

I understand you don't "like to listen for 17 minutes" but I don't like to type for 30+ either, I have better shit to do.

You should have some crazy fans that could that for ya! To be honest I assumed that you have some notes with main points of your speech and it would take only few minutes to include that in your post.


I wouldnt trust em not to bugger it up.

That said, my style of speech in these impromptu audio blogs is not suitable for a written blog

Having worked as a relay operator for the deaf (text to speech and vice versa) I'm trying to transcribe the audio (with intent to send to TB to release if he chose to). I've only gotten about 3 min in and it's a BITCH :D (there's a good chance I won't complete it)
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 20:13:46
March 16 2014 20:13 GMT
#12
On March 17 2014 05:10 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 05:05 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On March 17 2014 04:51 Gotard wrote:
On March 17 2014 04:42 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On March 17 2014 04:33 Gotard wrote:
Can you post here your main points or full transcription. Some ppl can read and don't like to listen for 17 minutes when they'd read all you have said few times faster.


Transcript implies I wrote this down before I said it. I didn't.

I understand you don't "like to listen for 17 minutes" but I don't like to type for 30+ either, I have better shit to do.

You should have some crazy fans that could that for ya! To be honest I assumed that you have some notes with main points of your speech and it would take only few minutes to include that in your post.


I wouldnt trust em not to bugger it up.

That said, my style of speech in these impromptu audio blogs is not suitable for a written blog

Having worked as a relay operator for the deaf (text to speech and vice versa) I'm trying to transcribe the audio (with intent to send to TB to release if he chose to). I've only gotten about 3 min in and it's a BITCH :D (there's a good chance I won't complete it)


Mhm, it's an absolute nightmare. I used to do it for a living about 5 years ago and I could do it about 140 words per minute. I was transcribing client letters which had to be extremely accurate though so it was a little different. You also really need footpedals to play, pause, rewind to do it properly.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
March 16 2014 20:13 GMT
#13
I love your audioblogs TB. this one in particular! Thanks!

I actually missed the finals (due to bad scheduling on my part), but watched everything else this weekend and, just ignoring the viewer numbers, I don't see the dead game hype. Sure, there are frustrating moments (just like there are when i watch my local hockey team the Senators). But I love this game and love the state it is in - very entertaining. Flaws and all.
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y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
March 16 2014 20:20 GMT
#14
On March 17 2014 05:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 05:10 y0su wrote:
On March 17 2014 05:05 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On March 17 2014 04:51 Gotard wrote:
On March 17 2014 04:42 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On March 17 2014 04:33 Gotard wrote:
Can you post here your main points or full transcription. Some ppl can read and don't like to listen for 17 minutes when they'd read all you have said few times faster.


Transcript implies I wrote this down before I said it. I didn't.

I understand you don't "like to listen for 17 minutes" but I don't like to type for 30+ either, I have better shit to do.

You should have some crazy fans that could that for ya! To be honest I assumed that you have some notes with main points of your speech and it would take only few minutes to include that in your post.


I wouldnt trust em not to bugger it up.

That said, my style of speech in these impromptu audio blogs is not suitable for a written blog

Having worked as a relay operator for the deaf (text to speech and vice versa) I'm trying to transcribe the audio (with intent to send to TB to release if he chose to). I've only gotten about 3 min in and it's a BITCH :D (there's a good chance I won't complete it)


Mhm, it's an absolute nightmare. I used to do it for a living about 5 years ago and I could do it about 140 words per minute. I was transcribing client letters which had to be extremely accurate though so it was a little different. You also really need footpedals to play, pause, rewind to do it properly.

Yeah, we had to do word for word (and include indicators for tone of voice and background sounds) but we had the advantage of being able to tell people (live) to pause and repeat (and most would take the hint to slow down).

I'm not going to continue because I think it'll end up being TLDR'd and I wouldn't be comfortable not doing it verbatim.

Very good points tho! Recommended listen if you've got 17min.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
March 16 2014 20:29 GMT
#15
It's difficult to compare conversion rates like this because the percentage of the Asian market is huge and they don't watch on Twitch or may not even watch foreign tournaments like IEM. No matter how you look at it the conversion rate of SC2 stays amazing, but it's difficult to get close to any solid estimation in comparison to LoL based on IEM viewership on Twitch, although SC2's is much higher without a doubt. Enjoyed your thoughts, though.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
March 16 2014 20:49 GMT
#16
On March 17 2014 04:31 Archas wrote:
That's a fantastic URL.

Normally I don't go for sarcastic one liners, but this one really fit.
User was warned for too many mimes.
Gotard
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland446 Posts
March 16 2014 20:57 GMT
#17
I don't really like when you say that balance is only on blizzard. A lot of competitive games had some mods made by the community. No one cared about the developer when people didn't like some aspects of the game.
"who needs girls when u can play as a protoss or riki" Fen1kz 2013
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
March 16 2014 21:04 GMT
#18
On March 17 2014 05:57 Gotard wrote:
I don't really like when you say that balance is only on blizzard. A lot of competitive games had some mods made by the community. No one cared about the developer when people didn't like some aspects of the game.


Which will never be used in WCS so it goes back to being on Blizzard.

Unless Blizzard shuts down WCS, use of such a mod would never happen.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
RevTiberius
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada353 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 21:20:34
March 16 2014 21:16 GMT
#19
I think people often overlook that SC2 vs. LOL is not either/or. Most people I know that play one game, at least occasionally follow the other, too. Or go back and forth between the two games.

Just like Coca Cola is not entirely unhappy when a consumer decides to buy Pepsi - because at least that consumer is not deciding to buy a different category altogether (e.g. juice, water, milk etc.). From Coca Cola's point of view, a Pepsi customer is still spending his or her money in the soft drink universe, and therefore remains interesting and could - potentially - become a Coca Cola customer again in the future.

For SC2 this means that the community should not put the main focus on the actual or perceived drain of viewership that's due to LOL. The real threat is people who quit the RTS segment or video gamin altogether. People who play LOL can be much easier "recaptured" for SC2 than people who lose interest in gaming completely.
Teaching Chess to a Starcraft 2 Grandmaster: http://revtiberius.blogspot.ca
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 16 2014 21:18 GMT
#20
Very enjoyable listen, thanks for putting it out there.
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