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Silentce
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Germany46 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 15:19:04
March 15 2014 15:08 GMT
#1
Ok so for the next stage of my training from a bronze league water boy into a GRAND MASTER WATER MAN I need to find a new favorite player to follow, study, and generally watch streams of.

I am looking for a top Zerg player of non Korean origin (I like to root for the underdog, and I find the Koreans to be too good).
Also I am sure I will never become better than this western player, so no matter how much worse he is than the Koreans, I will only end up learning more...

I have done a bit of searching and so far only managed to find Koreans. Could anyone recommend a few such players to help me out. If so it would be greatly appreciated.

*
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
March 15 2014 15:18 GMT
#2
Team Liquid has a few pretty good Zerg players... Two of which placed in the top 3 of SSC the other week.
Silentce
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Germany46 Posts
March 15 2014 15:19 GMT
#3
Where can I see who these 2 players are?
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 15:31:20
March 15 2014 15:26 GMT
#4
I can tell you their names. One is called "The Little One" or more commonly "TLO" for short. The other is Snute. Both play quite well; TLO has a reputation for being an innovator, but Snute may be more friendly for newer players (from what I remember watching his stream some time ago, in how he explained what he was doing to the audience).

Both would be great choices. I hope you find a way to increase your APM and become the macro master! I know I would find it excruciatingly difficult to make it to masters...I'm just so slow .

edit: Also I'm sure you could just type "liquipedia" into google, then from liquipedia type in team liquid and they'd give you a list of their current roster (as with any other team!). Then follow the links and you can investigate their personalities, best games, which generally are listed on liquipedia. I just tested it actually, there are plenty of replay packs available and lots of interviews. An excellent resource for you

edit 2: Also if you want to search for other north american or european players, just type in "teams" in liquipedia, and they will give you a huge list of active teams in those regions...everything is there .
banjo1735
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
19 Posts
March 15 2014 15:33 GMT
#5
This list should pretty much cover all your options: http://aligulac.com/periods/106/?page=1&sort=&race=z&nats=foreigners

I think you'd be best off following Jaedong though. He's Korean but he's on EG and he's one of the most likable guys in the game (as well as one of the best). He streams pretty often too.
Silentce
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Germany46 Posts
March 15 2014 15:50 GMT
#6
Thanks guys. My girl has forced me into grocery shopping for the moment. I'll check them out as soon as I get home
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
March 15 2014 16:56 GMT
#7
I don't see him very often, but by far my current favorite foreign zerg player is Dimaga. TLO is pretty awesome as well.
Silentce
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Germany46 Posts
March 15 2014 18:25 GMT
#8
So I'm living in Germany for the moment and thus on EU time.

Forgive my ignorance but are all of the past games from these players saved somewhere, or how do ya'll watch these players. Do you check some database where all of their past games have been saved, or do you check into their stream?

If checking in at the time of their stream is the only option...how do I see a listing of the usual time that these players stream?


I'm pretty new to twitch TV as well, so I'm not sure how to check these questions.
Silentce
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Germany46 Posts
March 15 2014 19:40 GMT
#9
Hey all thanks for the help again. I really appreciate it.

I am currently pretty interested in Snute: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Snute

Also somewhat Jaedong after checking up on what Banjo told me.


I unfortunately seem to be retarded as to how to navigate around team liquid or find replay videos. I don't even know what they're called, as I can't find "replay" anywhere.

Is there anyone you could link me a resource for past replays of these two people, or even what times they are normally streaming?


I have school, so I unfortunately can't be on nonstop to find this out. Can anyone help me out here?
AC3
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada337 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 21:19:53
March 15 2014 21:19 GMT
#10
http://sc2links.com/search.php?player=Jaedong

http://sc2links.com/search.php?player=Snute

Click on the VOD text to the left of each game description to jump to the game.

And check out this page from Liquipedia to find links to sites containing replay files if that is what you are looking for instead:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Replay_Websites
"The idea is to try to give all of the information to help others to judge the value of your contribution; not just the information that leads to judgment in one particular direction or another" -- Richard Feynman
AnythingThenDelete
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
381 Posts
March 15 2014 22:30 GMT
#11
Follow ROOTCatz, especially the " inside my head " streams.
If you have a lot of time and tons of replay, Stephano is a good player to look at.
And if you are not afraid of the " old " games, you can seek for some Nestea's old game, and Day[9] old vids on youtube.

pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2503 Posts
March 15 2014 23:07 GMT
#12
Batman is the best "super"hero ever
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
Silentce
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Germany46 Posts
March 16 2014 08:17 GMT
#13
Ok great guys. I really appreciate all of the help.

My last question is regarding twitch tv. Some people I found mentioned that I should get emailed when people I follow start streaming. Can anyone tell me how to enable this so I get an email when Snute or Jaedong are streaming?

I've followed both of them on twitch, and on twitter, but I don't know how to enable this email or alert so that I can always tune in when I see they're online.
Silentce
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Germany46 Posts
March 16 2014 10:03 GMT
#14
Not my last question actually. I have yet another......SORRY

Is there anywhere a website or resource detailing what strategy each player likes to go for? I mean such as certain unit groups (infestors), or harass, etc.

I was watching some more of what Day 9 was saying about finding a pro that does something that really interests you, unfortunately I do not have the time to go through the last 50 replays of a hundred different pros to find out what their tendencies are.
Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 10:29:51
March 16 2014 10:26 GMT
#15
Funny no one mentioned (Z)Scarlett. Awesome Zerg to watch.
....
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
March 16 2014 13:36 GMT
#16
My vote personally is Dimaga, nice balance of creativity and standard.
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