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Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1256 Posts
December 18 2013 00:50 GMT
#1
I don’t even understand.

I know why Terran/Zerg players do this “I’M GOING TO PLAY PROTOSS AND GET GM CUZ SO EASY”

But I don’t exactly understand what the desired outcome, or point is.
I’m pretty sure most pro gamers can switch races and *should* fall on their feet quite well. It’s like an MMA fighter dropping/gaining weight to change division. Sure, some things (I guess with an MMA example many things are different, but I digress) are different, but overall the experience is the same.

Demuslim has great Protoss.
TheOgnis had great Zerg (iirc, it might have been toss actually)
Taeja does some pretty fucking good Protoss and REALLY good Zerg.

I just don’t understand what they are aiming to achieve.

If they do achieve the “goal”:

"Yay I’m GM with protoss HAR HAR DAT WAZ EZ CLEARLY IMBA AMIRITE? BUFF MECH PLS”. Then what? Oh right, nothing.

David Kim is not going to magically snap his fingers and rise off his golden seat and say “HOLY FUCK THAT RANDOM GUY JUST GOT GM WITH ANOTHER RACE! IMBA IMBA IMBA!!!!”

No, he’s going to say the exact same fucking thing I’ve said, and concur with the fact that generally, all players will take some semblance of their skill level into the other race they try to play.

Heck it’s even evident at lower levels. Lots of gold/plat/dia players I know will sometimes offrace for the fun of it - and they will normally hover around the same region of skill.

If they don’t make it:

"Yeah well if I had some more time I was really busy…" (or insert alternate excuses). Then what? Oh right, nothing.

Nothing is going to change, there are some fundamental things at the core that cannot be changed any more (looking at you, warp gates). As the balance-cycle moves yes there are issues, as it’s a common facet particularly in strategy games.

We do have some troubling signs in PvT at the moment, but other than that things aren’t too shabby at all and to be honest I’m quite impressed by the work Blizzard has done.

It just so happens that many Terran players seem really good at balance whining, which is why there’s this incredible stigma around about playing Protoss currently, which really pisses me off. You know what’s gonna really knock the socks off Terrans reading this (given that technically I’m a Protoss player) - is that I actually found the Oracle buff really odd and not needed.

It actually really saddened me the other day to go on r/Starcraft and see a post from someone talking about how they hate “feeling like shit” because they “play Protoss”, and that every time they went on the sub, the constant battering from the community about Protoss being “easy” is just frustrating to deal with.

This could be a person taking way too much on board from an online community - but no player should be afraid to go hang out with a community from the game he/she adores and be scorned or at least feel like shit for playing the way they want to play.

Many people who know me will realise how weird this sounds given my disdain for r/Starcraft, but just needed to mention that

It’s a fucking sad state of affairs when people lose a game, then bully/harass/indict someone simply because they enjoy playing a particular race in the game.

And this last bit goes for everyone: lighten the fuck up.

Be passionate, but be respectful of your fellow gamer. You might question why mainstream doesn’t respect gaming properly yet? Maybe it’s because you can’t respect fellow players yourself. Lighten, the fuck, up.

http://www.starcrafttrends.com/

http://i.imgur.com/MDHTVEX.jpg

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Former SC2 commentator. youtube.com/duckvillelol
Catherine
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
33 Posts
December 18 2013 01:17 GMT
#2
Interesting thought process! ^_^
Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
December 18 2013 02:22 GMT
#3
Came here to bash on policemen

Left dissapointed
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PineapplePizza
Profile Joined June 2010
United States749 Posts
December 18 2013 02:29 GMT
#4
Was hoping to hear about your dad being a cop

I guess I will also leave disappointed
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Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-18 03:26:29
December 18 2013 03:25 GMT
#5
On December 18 2013 11:22 Darkren wrote:
Came here to bash on policemen

Left dissapointed


still gave you 4 stars. wouldve given 5 if you werent so toss firendly
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
December 18 2013 04:35 GMT
#6
let's all write blogs and give them titles that are completely unrelated to the content!
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
December 18 2013 05:14 GMT
#7
The reasons people like taeja play other races is to get a feel for the timings that you are weak and strong against. I heard pro's used to play with maphacks in bw against each other for similar reasons. If you know you are weak against something or will have a bo loss then you should look for it and change your strat if that's what they are doing.

"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1256 Posts
December 18 2013 05:44 GMT
#8
On December 18 2013 13:35 29 fps wrote:
let's all write blogs and give them titles that are completely unrelated to the content!


It's actually relating to a thing kids sometimes do when they talk about how cool their parents are compared to someone else's parents - in this case comparing it to people complaining about races. Maybe a bit too inception I guess

On December 18 2013 12:25 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2013 11:22 Darkren wrote:
Came here to bash on policemen

Left dissapointed


still gave you 4 stars. wouldve given 5 if you werent so toss firendly


I actually main Protoss but play Random these days - and even as a "truly" protoss player I hate the way the race can be so coinflippy, and can be "won or lost" by a single moment. I really really hate the design, and always have. What I don't like is the attitude that has been displayed in the community as of late where Protoss players big and small are persecuted for simply playing a race. Imagine being a new person coming into the game at this time, starting a game as Toss cause they seem interesting - then get abused constantly because other people can't deal with toss. It's disgusting.
Former SC2 commentator. youtube.com/duckvillelol
yuuG
Profile Joined March 2013
Malaysia23 Posts
December 18 2013 05:48 GMT
#9
needed more policeman. still 4 stars because fellow sea member though
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
December 18 2013 06:14 GMT
#10
5/5 for getting the capitalization on TheOgnis's name right.
hellokitty[hk]
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1309 Posts
December 18 2013 06:40 GMT
#11
Dude Protoss Imba.
People are imbeciles, lucky thing god made cats.
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-18 07:17:47
December 18 2013 06:49 GMT
#12
psshh I had GM Random acc in less than 2 weeks !!!
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
December 18 2013 11:35 GMT
#13
Disturbing lack of policemen-stories in this thread.

On December 18 2013 09:50 Duckvillelol wrote:

It’s a fucking sad state of affairs when people lose a game, then bully/harass/indict someone simply because they enjoy playing a particular race in the game.


So, people on the internet are dicks, insulting people they lose to... That´s not exactly news.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 18 2013 11:58 GMT
#14
On December 18 2013 09:50 Duckvillelol wrote:
I don’t even understand.

I know why Terran/Zerg players do this “I’M GOING TO PLAY PROTOSS AND GET GM CUZ SO EASY”

But I don’t exactly understand what the desired outcome, or point is.
I’m pretty sure most pro gamers can switch races and *should* fall on their feet quite well. It’s like an MMA fighter dropping/gaining weight to change division. Sure, some things (I guess with an MMA example many things are different, but I digress) are different, but overall the experience is the same.

Demuslim has great Protoss.
TheOgnis had great Zerg (iirc, it might have been toss actually)
Taeja does some pretty fucking good Protoss and REALLY good Zerg.

I just don’t understand what they are aiming to achieve.

If they do achieve the “goal”:

"Yay I’m GM with protoss HAR HAR DAT WAZ EZ CLEARLY IMBA AMIRITE? BUFF MECH PLS”. Then what? Oh right, nothing.

David Kim is not going to magically snap his fingers and rise off his golden seat and say “HOLY FUCK THAT RANDOM GUY JUST GOT GM WITH ANOTHER RACE! IMBA IMBA IMBA!!!!”

No, he’s going to say the exact same fucking thing I’ve said, and concur with the fact that generally, all players will take some semblance of their skill level into the other race they try to play.

Heck it’s even evident at lower levels. Lots of gold/plat/dia players I know will sometimes offrace for the fun of it - and they will normally hover around the same region of skill.

If they don’t make it:

"Yeah well if I had some more time I was really busy…" (or insert alternate excuses). Then what? Oh right, nothing.

Nothing is going to change, there are some fundamental things at the core that cannot be changed any more (looking at you, warp gates). As the balance-cycle moves yes there are issues, as it’s a common facet particularly in strategy games.

We do have some troubling signs in PvT at the moment, but other than that things aren’t too shabby at all and to be honest I’m quite impressed by the work Blizzard has done.

It just so happens that many Terran players seem really good at balance whining, which is why there’s this incredible stigma around about playing Protoss currently, which really pisses me off. You know what’s gonna really knock the socks off Terrans reading this (given that technically I’m a Protoss player) - is that I actually found the Oracle buff really odd and not needed.

It actually really saddened me the other day to go on r/Starcraft and see a post from someone talking about how they hate “feeling like shit” because they “play Protoss”, and that every time they went on the sub, the constant battering from the community about Protoss being “easy” is just frustrating to deal with.

This could be a person taking way too much on board from an online community - but no player should be afraid to go hang out with a community from the game he/she adores and be scorned or at least feel like shit for playing the way they want to play.

Many people who know me will realise how weird this sounds given my disdain for r/Starcraft, but just needed to mention that

It’s a fucking sad state of affairs when people lose a game, then bully/harass/indict someone simply because they enjoy playing a particular race in the game.

And this last bit goes for everyone: lighten the fuck up.

Be passionate, but be respectful of your fellow gamer. You might question why mainstream doesn’t respect gaming properly yet? Maybe it’s because you can’t respect fellow players yourself. Lighten, the fuck, up.

http://www.starcrafttrends.com/

http://i.imgur.com/MDHTVEX.jpg


Get a grip. Every race whines. Protoss had a fricken fan club dedicated to it. Everyone from every race had to go thru this. Terrans when it was GOMTvT and zergs in the patch zerg era. I guess it is Protoss' first time dealing with this so that is why you have this reaction.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45340 Posts
December 18 2013 16:08 GMT
#15
On December 18 2013 20:58 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2013 09:50 Duckvillelol wrote:
I don’t even understand.

I know why Terran/Zerg players do this “I’M GOING TO PLAY PROTOSS AND GET GM CUZ SO EASY”

But I don’t exactly understand what the desired outcome, or point is.
I’m pretty sure most pro gamers can switch races and *should* fall on their feet quite well. It’s like an MMA fighter dropping/gaining weight to change division. Sure, some things (I guess with an MMA example many things are different, but I digress) are different, but overall the experience is the same.

Demuslim has great Protoss.
TheOgnis had great Zerg (iirc, it might have been toss actually)
Taeja does some pretty fucking good Protoss and REALLY good Zerg.

I just don’t understand what they are aiming to achieve.

If they do achieve the “goal”:

"Yay I’m GM with protoss HAR HAR DAT WAZ EZ CLEARLY IMBA AMIRITE? BUFF MECH PLS”. Then what? Oh right, nothing.

David Kim is not going to magically snap his fingers and rise off his golden seat and say “HOLY FUCK THAT RANDOM GUY JUST GOT GM WITH ANOTHER RACE! IMBA IMBA IMBA!!!!”

No, he’s going to say the exact same fucking thing I’ve said, and concur with the fact that generally, all players will take some semblance of their skill level into the other race they try to play.

Heck it’s even evident at lower levels. Lots of gold/plat/dia players I know will sometimes offrace for the fun of it - and they will normally hover around the same region of skill.

If they don’t make it:

"Yeah well if I had some more time I was really busy…" (or insert alternate excuses). Then what? Oh right, nothing.

Nothing is going to change, there are some fundamental things at the core that cannot be changed any more (looking at you, warp gates). As the balance-cycle moves yes there are issues, as it’s a common facet particularly in strategy games.

We do have some troubling signs in PvT at the moment, but other than that things aren’t too shabby at all and to be honest I’m quite impressed by the work Blizzard has done.

It just so happens that many Terran players seem really good at balance whining, which is why there’s this incredible stigma around about playing Protoss currently, which really pisses me off. You know what’s gonna really knock the socks off Terrans reading this (given that technically I’m a Protoss player) - is that I actually found the Oracle buff really odd and not needed.

It actually really saddened me the other day to go on r/Starcraft and see a post from someone talking about how they hate “feeling like shit” because they “play Protoss”, and that every time they went on the sub, the constant battering from the community about Protoss being “easy” is just frustrating to deal with.

This could be a person taking way too much on board from an online community - but no player should be afraid to go hang out with a community from the game he/she adores and be scorned or at least feel like shit for playing the way they want to play.

Many people who know me will realise how weird this sounds given my disdain for r/Starcraft, but just needed to mention that

It’s a fucking sad state of affairs when people lose a game, then bully/harass/indict someone simply because they enjoy playing a particular race in the game.

And this last bit goes for everyone: lighten the fuck up.

Be passionate, but be respectful of your fellow gamer. You might question why mainstream doesn’t respect gaming properly yet? Maybe it’s because you can’t respect fellow players yourself. Lighten, the fuck, up.

http://www.starcrafttrends.com/

http://i.imgur.com/MDHTVEX.jpg


Get a grip. Every race whines. Protoss had a fricken fan club dedicated to it. Everyone from every race had to go thru this. Terrans when it was GOMTvT and zergs in the patch zerg era. I guess it is Protoss' first time dealing with this so that is why you have this reaction.


To be fair, the Sad Zealot Fanclub was created because Protoss weren't able to win anything for a long period of time, which was a problem that Terrans never faced. Terrans are whining because TvP is boring (understandable), but it's not even remotely comparable to Terrans not being able to win anything. Hell, TvP is even balanced as far as win ratios go (although historically, T > P and Protoss has had the worst run of any race up until now in terms of any match-ups).

So Terrans are whining because the match-up(s) are stale for Terran, which causes more people to switch to Zerg or Protoss. And that's something that needs to be talked about, sure. But there's this absurd idea circulating the Designated Balance Thread (which has really just become the Terran Whine Thread) and some blog posts that a boring match-up equates to a losing record, and that's simply not the case (nor is it what the actual data suggests either).
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Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1256 Posts
December 18 2013 21:59 GMT
#16
On December 18 2013 15:49 ROOTheognis wrote:
psshh I had GM Random acc in less than 2 weeks !!!


Haha right! I knew it was something like that - probably why I was confused about it being P/Z

On December 18 2013 20:58 vthree wrote:
Get a grip. Every race whines. Protoss had a fricken fan club dedicated to it. Everyone from every race had to go thru this. Terrans when it was GOMTvT and zergs in the patch zerg era. I guess it is Protoss' first time dealing with this so that is why you have this reaction.


You seem to be severely misreading the entire core of my post.

I'm not a Protoss player (I did main Protoss, but for the past 1.5 years I've played random) complaining about "people being mean". I'm a community member who finds it's disgusting that people have been particularly acidic with their "generic balance whine", particularly in a time where we're seeing the growth increase a little due to WCS.

I never disputed that Toss is kinda boring to play - it's coin flippy, it's a very... I guess "if x happens you win" kind of race (probably needs more explanation I guess, but another time), which is an inherent problem with the design. I'll admit that freely, even if I was a full-time Protoss player, it's bleedingly obvious to anyone who has a clue.

I can also concur with your point that "every race whines" - obviously, a pretty redundant statement. Everyone wants to win, everyone wants a fair go. And even then I'm not saying that "Terran players need to never complain ever". I'm just saying that people in this community need to lighten up and have a little more respect for fellow gamers, the whole "you should kill yourself for playing toss" mantra that gets thrown around is a bit ridiculous.
Former SC2 commentator. youtube.com/duckvillelol
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-23 05:59:20
December 23 2013 05:54 GMT
#17
I actually just decided to quit the NA ladder because I'm so sick of people whining and BMing so frequently. I just want to play the game and have fun, but people being assholes really just ruins my mood. Normally I wouldn't give a shit, but it's just becoming so frequent that it's making me genuinely frustrated. And often times it doesn't help to manner a lot at the start of games because people sometimes whine and BM when you win regardless of any conversation at the start.

I had a game recently where a guy called me a maphacker and got super mad, and then next game I was talking to my opponent for a bit about that and he told me a story, etc, etc. It was nice! What a nice guy! Then when I won he says something like, "Yeah dude, I really think you are maphacking." Then he BM'ed me and it made me so fucking frustrated.

From now on it's KR server only, at the very least until next season. However, whenever it is I go back to NA it'll be with all opponents blocked, which is a real shame because I really enjoy when people say nice things, or start talking about random stuff like how their cat is sitting on their lap or whatever, you know?

+ Show Spoiler +
For anyone curious why that that second guy called me a maphacker: it was on Polar Night and he opened 3 hatch Roach/Ling defense into Muta, but I scouted it with a hallu phoenix and did a timing off 2 base instead of expanding. It got a bit basetradey (in my favor for sure) and I grabbed the Zealots that I had at the watchtowers and attack commanded them to all the expos on the map to find any hidden hatches. One ended up running into a group of drones that were bookin' it across the map (which I didn't notice AT ALL on the minimap) and then he said what he said. zzzzzzzzz
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