hey guys, we had good debate discussion going on last entry about the "nice guy" thing, but I felt we reached a point and you either got the message or didn't.
As an Update, it seems the easiest way for me to keep meeting new girls is tru my clothing store, yesterday, this one younger chick talked to via bbm and said she wanted to come try some things on, I arranged the meeting after lunch. She came over with a guy but didn't appear to be her boyfriend, so I flirted with her the whole time she was here, and smiled and laughed a lot. after she left later on that night she started conversation with me via BBM and said it was really cool to meet me.. today I am thinking of a way to meet her tomorrow without seeming like a date type of thing. Usually I would go for a lunch meet, but I want to change that, and see If I can come up with something better. She seems kinda too young too maybe 18-19, but oh well shes hot
and for the sharing part, here is another really good article imo,
The 7 Immutable Commandments of Seduction *CMPitts descends from the mountain with two stone tablets. He calls the gathering crowd of TAF goers to gather around a low hill rising as he sets both tablets at his feet. The tablets are written in a strange language not comprehensible to the men.*
Hey dudes,
This is a post I’ve wanted to write for a long time and it’s been going back and forth in my head as of late. I first got the idea as I was travelling home from work on the subway line one night, watching an overeager young man fail to entice a young woman. While many experts would agree that seduction should be fluid, not contained by too much script, and with a lot of room for improvisation, there are certain rules that should never be broken if you hope to make it back to her place and do the no-pants-dance. These are those rules.
I will start this post up by saying the following phrase: Pickup is dead. Hence the reason I think it’s comical to refer to one’s self as a pickup artist. I don’t know about you but when I think of a pickup artist, I think of Mystery and Style, dressed up like freaks, hitting the bars with opinion openers. While this idea may have been novel back in the 90s, it has no place left in today’s world. As the industry constantly revolves and changes, the old fashioned pickup artist is left by the wayside. I encourage you to think of yourself, not as a pickup artist, but as a simple man, trained in the arts of seduction. I think it’s every man’s duty to know how to properly seduce a woman, but to make it your entire life (i.e. pickup artists) is absurd. You should be many dimensions; seducing women should be only one of those. Think of this as learning a life skill, similar to learning a sport, or learning a trade. The object is to become a more well-rounded man. Without further semantics, let’s begin.
Commandment #1: Thou Shalt Be Daring
A young man sits at a bar with a strong drink. It’s a Friday night, the crowd of 20-somethings are out on the dance floor. Booze is flowing like water, and a sexual atmosphere pervades the room. The young man makes eye contact with a sexy redhead sitting 3 stools away. Her eyes sparkle as the flash from the overhead lights flicks across her.
Damn, he thinks, I should go over there and talk to her.
He watches intently as she looks around, looks back at him, flicks her eyes to ground, and back up to his eyes. She wants him to approach; she can feel that there could be chemistry with this man and her thighs burn with anticipation. It would all be for not. The young man, scared of his own shadow, stays glued to his seat, looking for an excuse to go talk to her.
I need to say something charming, wait no, funny… er, damn should I get her a drink?
As the different scenarios run through his head, another man sneaks in, sits down with the redhead, and starts talking to her. In an hour, they leave out the front door together, his hand strategically placed above her ass.
There is a reason that this is the first commandment. Without daring, without confidence, we as men are nothing. We might as well hang an ‘out of business’ sign on our balls and retire. Know that you must suffer the tragedy of not knowing what could have been. She could have been an amazing woman. She could have been a total bitch. But you will now never know. All those memories that could have been, will never happen because you were too much of a pussy to make a move. Even rejection will always be better than regret. That is why the first commandment will always say to be daring.
She’s sitting there alone? Be daring and approach her.
Can’t muster up the courage to ask her out? Be daring and tell her you are taking her out.
She looks at you coyly? Be daring and kiss her.
Think she’s beautiful? Be daring and tell her.
She offers you a handshake? Be daring and pull her in for a kiss on the cheek.
You think it’s too soon to make a move? Be daring and make it anyway.
See a pattern yet? Without daring, without bravado, you go home alone to masturbate. Your foot in the door is the difference between taking a woman home, and going home to jerk off. When the opportunity comes up between: Should I take the safe route or should I be daring, make the choice that will at least give you the best chance to succeed.
Without confidence, men are nothing.
The young man sits at the bar later that night, when he spies a lonely girl texting some feet away. Still stung over his failure from earlier, he decides he will no longer sit on the sidelines while other people do the fucking. Mustering up a bit of courage, he approaches her and tells her he wanted to meet her.
Girl2: Why did you want to meet me?
Young Man: Because I couldn’t take my eyes off you since I first saw you. My name is _________.
She’s flattered. He’s elated. A conversation now flows. She tells you about her life, he flirts, comments, and responds back positively. When the choice comes between the safe route, or being daring, he choose the later, and before long, she can’t see anything else in the bar except his eyes. They leave together to a night of debauchery and sweat.
Which path will you choose?
Commandment #2: Thou Shalt Respect Thyself
Being daring will open a lot of doors for you that you didn’t know existed. As with all things in life, however, there is a counterbalance to daring. That balance is called self-respect, and you don’t see much of it today from men. Self-respect allows you to know where to draw the line between too much give and not enough receive. It allows you to keep your value, in a world where value is all you may have. Without some value, how to you ever expect chicks to sleep with you? They won’t.
You are the most important person in the world. Why is that? Because you are you, and your approval, satisfaction, and disappointment mean the most to YOU. If you don’t build your life, who will? You aren’t a woman; nobody is going to give you a nice house and a nice life. You have to earn those things. Knowing this fact helps you to determine that your time is precious, your thoughts, valuable. Your approval, required. Your disapproval, unacceptable. Now you start to build a list of certain things that you do expect and accept and certain things you will not tolerate. Flakiness from girls is a great example.
The old you may have excused a girl who ditches you one night, maybe two nights, or hell even three. After all, she had satisfactory ‘excuses’ that seemed to check out. After a while though, your gut lets you know that something is off about her, and that she does not respect the time of a valuable man. BUT you are so hard-up for pussy that you will constrain to hope that something may happen instead of doing something proactive. Once you start respecting yourself, you will call out behavior that you see as not valuable to your time. She will respect you more because your value in her eyes will instantly have gone up. After all, you wouldn’t have said anything unless you truly felt that your time was more valuable than being flaked on. She wants to be with a valuable man, so you both win.
Respect is everything. Respect yourself, and see women treat you in a new matter.
Once you start attaching a value to your time and your actions, expect women to see it. Everyone wants to be near a man who’s valuable. Think to whenever you were younger and you wanted to play catch with your dad. Your dad had to do work, and couldn’t play catch for a while. Didn’t that make you want to play catch a lot more since he now couldn’t do it? When something is taken away from you, don’t you want it the least bit more? Be the man with the valuable time, and see the people around garner more respect. It’s that easy.
Commandment #3: Thou Shalt Always Be Moving Forward
The Routine is the hallmark of the unimaginative. It’s for those who are too scared to try something new ; For those who are comfortable with the same results time and time again. To be a man that a woman wants between her thighs, you have to be one that is constantly on the move, out looking for the next thing, out climbing the higher mountain, or out learning the next skill. Why do women flock to sports stars and movie stars? With the higher running skills or higher acting skills, these titans use their skills to be above the average man, thus attaching a higher value to their actions. In women’s minds, these men are the true ‘super-men’ whom are moving their lives in positive directions.
We revisit the young man from earlier. He has a job in sales, but doesn’t try that hard to make those bonus checks because he is comfortable where he is at now. He could climb the corporate ladder, if he entertained thoughts of being better in his head, but he does not. He is content with being average. His girlfriend notices his lack of ambition, and knows that if she stuck with him for the next 10 years, he’d still be at the same level. That’s not interesting. She wants to be with a man who’s going somewhere, who’s going to make something out of himself. They break up 2 weeks later.
Ambition is your best friend. You should always be striving to hit the next level, as isn’t that what a valuable man does? He knows he has the skills, he knows he has the smarts, and he is NOT content with being mediocre. The 2nd commandment is revisited.
A young man in a sales job out of school has a low income but an ambitious mind. He stays a little later than the others, and gets there a little earlier than his boss. He works his ass off, reads the best sales books, and lands big accounts before his peers. His boss, noticing, promotes him to the next level, where he handles more critical accounts. His girlfriend, taking notice, knows his star is on the rise, and that he will make a lot out of himself someday. Ten years down the line, he sits on the board of directors for the corporate firm, the youngest member ever. His wife, now that they’ve been together for a long time, back when he just a salesmen, feels immense pride at having landed such a valuable man.
Know this about chicks: they are always competing with each other. They must have the best clothes, the best job, and the best man. Keeping with the routine too many times leads to a stale relationship. If they feel you may be going nowhere, they will dump you to not lose face to their friends. Being ambitious however, leads to an exciting life, where you can use your skills and your mind to get ahead. People always want to ride the coattails of those on their way to the top. Do you want to ride the coattails, or be the one wearing the coat?
*CMPitts decides to stop the lecture temporarily and break for lunch. He grabs 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish. *
This represents your career as you first start learning. Small, and with a lot of room to grow.
*CMPitts starts handing out lunch of fish sticks and breadsticks to TAF users, managing to feed everyone on the whole forums with just the meager beginnings of 5 loaves and 2 fish.*
As you move forward, your skill set expands and expands and expands until you have enough to nourish yourself and to nourish others. You will always start small, but the key is not being comfortable with the routine. You will end up with way more fish and bread than you started with. Expand your life, develop new skills, keep learning, and keep moving forward. Your ambition will slick the thighs of every female you encounter.
Commandment #4: Thou Shalt Be Charming
A young man stops over at his date’s apartment to pick her up for their date night. He’s nervous (it’s evident in his sweaty palms) and just wants to say the right things. He knows that he should play it cool because that’s what his buddies have all told him. He knocks on her door, praying he doesn’t screw it up tonight.
The girl answers the door in a pretty pink dress that shows off an ample amount of cleavage. She’s wearing slight heels, and her hair has been meticulously done as her cascading curls hit her shoulders. She looks breathtaking.
“Hi______, how do I look?” She asks with a sweet voice.
You can’t speak. All you can manage to think is that she looks stunning. Your friends though, have mentioned that you shouldn’t tell a chick she’s pretty too early on because that’s ‘beta’ so you do what they told you.
“Hey _______, you look alright. You ready to go?”
You think you handled it perfectly. You didn’t give up too much of your power, and now she thinks her beauty is indifferent to you because you see beautiful things all the time.
She thinks you are a bit of a jerk though. She spent a solid hour getting ready for you, hoping to see the lust in your eyes as she opened the door. She feels a bit upset, thinking that any man that she wanted to be with would have told her she was beautiful. She goes on the date, but her heart is no longer in it.
What happened here? A lot of industry guides will tell you not to comment on a woman’s looks too early, because it’s what everyone else will do. This may be true, but this should be examined a little further. Most men don’t have the game that you do, and will tell her stupid things like ‘she’s hot’ and expect her to go buck wild. Women need to be seduced by words. Use your knowledge of the language to tell her exactly what you think, in a matter that will make her toes curl.
We revisit the earlier scenario:
“Hi______, how do I look?” She asks with a sweet voice.
“My god, you look incredible in that dress,” you say breathily. She smiles big, and grabs your arm, to go out to the car. Once you get to the dinner, you tell her that her eyes have an effect on you: that they make your heart start to beat a little faster each time. Now she knows. She knows exactly how this nights going to end, as she escorts you back to her apartment after dinner, and takes off that tiny pink dress for you.
Don’t be afraid to be charming. Too many men think that there’s no place for charm in today’s dating environment because it backfires too often. I’ll give you a secret: it only backfires if you never had a chance anyway. Nice guys will do the charming route too often with women who are nothing but friends, but will abandon this charm when they learn seduction because it leads to the friend zone. No, you just never had a chance in the first place, which is why it doesn’t work. Charm combines 2 elements of courtship: the compliment and the confidence in yourself to tell her. A daring man who knows how to talk to a lady? Everyone knows he gets whatever woman he wants.
Commandment #5: Thou Shalt Court Her Emotions
The young man is talking with a sultry young blonde in an intimate setting. She’s attracted to him, and he’s imagining the love bites he wants to give her. The two are talking about career hopes for the future when she mentions she feels strongly about special education for the disabled.
“That’s cool,” you say, and you move on, asking her if she wants to check out your place.
She rejects you. Why? Because she doesn’t feel emotionally invested in you. You go alone.
There is an old saying that goes something like this: Men think, women feel. I think this is absolutely true. How many of you have ever experienced a woman crying for no reason at all? A few times, many? My girlfriend tells me that, “Sometimes, I just want to cry because I’m emotional.”
Chicks are weird, but there lies an important clue on how to interact with them. They rely heavily on the feelings they get from certain emotions. You can ‘spike’ these emotions by carefully listening to what they are saying/doing, and responding. Going back to the earlier conversation:
The young lady says, “I really feel strongly about special education. A lot of those kids aren’t even given a chance to succeed.
You say, “That’s cool that you are so passionate about that. How did you come to FEEL this way? Was there any particular experience in your life?”
Young lady: “Blah blah blah I felt this way one time blah blah blah.”
You say, “I’m glad you were able to tell me that. I can tell you really feel strongly about these kids and you should definitely work towards that. Are you moving in the right direction to teach one day?
Young lady: “Blah blah blah.”
You say, “That’s really great, you are so passionate about this.”
The young lady is content. FINALLY, someone understands her and her outlook. She suggests they wrap up and go back to his place. That morning, she leaves with a couple of love bites on her neck.
See the difference? By concentrating on how they feel, you can steer the conversation towards their emotions. Once you start spiking their emotions, they are going to feel a powerful attraction towards you because you are able to make them feel these incredible feelings. She won’t let that pass her by. Intimacy will be burning on her mind, and you are one step closer to getting her to bed.
Commandment #6: Thou Shalt Always Be Escalating
No, this isn’t a cool way to say you should drive an Escalade. But it could be. The young man was sitting with the young lady on the couch, facing each other. They were still talking and her emotions were heavily spiked. The young man has the great idea to initiate some kino by putting his hand on her knee. However, he was forgotten the First Commandment of Seduction and decides to take the safe route and not touch her.
She’s confused. They are vibing so great, but he just isn’t make a move on her. Ohhhhhh, she thinks, He must be gay. That’s explains it. All the goods ones are taken or gay. Damn. She starts to lose interest in him, and puts him in the friend zone. She could always use another gay best friend.
Several weeks later when he does finally make a move and tries to kiss her, he gets the most hated speech in the entire world.
“Whoa, what are you doing? I thought we were just friends…?” she responds.
This is a classic example of what happens when you wait too long to make a move. I have said this before and I will say it again: Time is your biggest enemy when it comes to women. You are never as sexy to a woman as you are within the first few hours of meeting her. Why is this? Because the mystery is still there. You could be anybody in the world, and the way you present yourself can either decide to unveil the mystery or keep it pulsating. Tie this lesson in with the First Commandment. Be daring enough to make the next move.
Let’s revisit the scenario from a different angle.
The young man was sitting with the young lady on the couch, facing each other. They were still talking and her emotions were heavily spiked. The young man has the great idea to initiate some kino by putting his hand on her knee. He knows all the Commandments of Seduction, so he daringly places his hand on her knee. His hand is warm to the touch, yet she feels tingles in her flesh. She instinctly scoots closer. Noticing her reaction, he brings her in for a kiss. He knows that to keep up the good feelings, he has to keep escalating. Later on, when they are back at his place, he keeps up his kino, letting his hands run the length of her body. She is so turned on that there is now a wet spot on the seat where she was sitting. He takes her into the bedroom and they don’t emerge until morning.
If you want to get the girl, escalation is key. When you don’t make a move in time, you fall into the friend zone, because people don’t make moves on people they aren’t interested in. And that’s what she’s going to think if you don’t summon up the stones to make that move.
Commandment #7: Thou Shalt Not Be Needy
“Hey babe?” The young woman says to the young man. “I’m going to get a drink with Allie and Jen after work tomorrow. Is that ok?”
“B-b-but I thought we were going to spend the night together?” the young man stammers. She explains that she wants to catch up with her friends. He, unknowingly, think that she may be out hitting on other guys, so you decide to text/call her every half hour to see what she’s doing.
She quickly gets annoyed with this needy behavior and tells her girlfriends. Allie says, “He sounds like a bitch to be honest. Why’s he so needy?” They start to encourage the young lady to go dancing with a handsome guy who’s been checking her out. The young lady, disgusted by the young man’s behavior, goes dancing with the other guy.
What’s happening here? It’s quite easy to see that needy behavior from a man is a big turn off for a woman. Why is this? Well it goes back to the Second Commandment. Needy guys have no better way to spend their time, so that extends to ‘checking in’ on their girlfriends 24/7. The girlfriend knows that he doesn’t trust her, and this lack of trust slowly crumbles the foundation for the relationship. A high value man knows that he wouldn’t be cheated on, and even if he was, he would be able to find another girl in a second. Remember: women want to be around high value men. Let’s see this scenario from another side.
Needy men don’t have options. And because they don’t have options, they aren’t attractive to women. It really is as simple as that.
“Hey babe?” The young woman says to the young man. “I’m going to get a drink with Allie and Jen after work tomorrow. Is that ok?”
“Yeah, that’s cool. Jason and I were going to hit the game.” The young man says. They part ways and each party has their fun with their respective friends. Around an hour into the conversation, the young lady gets bored of hearing about Allie’s life and texts the young man.
She writes I miss you. Are you having fun?
He responds back Miss you too. Yep, having a blast.
Young lady: I’m finishing up now, I just want to go home and be with you.
See the difference? When you aren’t a needy bitch, the women will be coming back to you easily. They will know that they are with a high value man who has his own options and therefore be more attractive to her. You aren’t even with each other physically at the moment, but you are still creating attraction and maintaining the foundation of the relationship.
Nobody likes a guy who is a needy bitch. Men are supposed to be independent, not prone to showing their emotions so bombastically. Show restraint. Even those emotions still come to the hardest hitting players in the game. However, they know that showing restraint is the key to keeping the girl in the long run.
*CMPitts claps his hands to the congregation of TAF users in the audience.*
Well, my friends, those are the laws that I have been given. Engraved in stone, they should be constant reminders of how to act to get the girl. Break these laws, and suffer the consequences of your own actions. Follow them, and know real success with women and success in life in general.
Seduction is not an exact science and most likely, it never will be. There are too many different, conflicting ways to get into a woman’s pants for it ever to be narrowed down. That’s good for us. That means that everyone can have their own style and not be clones of the same method.
Do what you need to do with these laws. If you need to bookmark it, then do so. If you need to print them out for you to read and digest, do that then. Just make sure you learn them because they will never change. Hence the reason they were written in stone. You can examine how any couple and I’m sure you will find the foundations of their relationship in these laws. If not, then you will see a foundation that is weak and cracking, one that won’t survive for long.
These are the tools for ultimate success with the opposite sex. Use them at your discretion, use them boldly, and don’t forget: You are the only thing stopping you from living the life you want to live
These are the tools for ultimate success with the opposite sex. Use them at your discretion, use them boldly, and don’t forget: You are the only thing stopping you from living the life you want to live
The key for penetrating a woman's inner temple is simply being a great leader and she will grant you plenty of chances for you as a man to demonstrate such leadership. Questions like "So where are we going?" for dates and "What should I wear?" are signs that you need to show your decision-making skills. Those two are of course the more direct approach they would be taking in offering opportunities. Other subtleties include "I'm not interested in guys like you.", "You are one of those guys that approaches girls only for sex.", and/or "How many girls have you used that line on?". Some guys might think of those as complete hostility toward them but the truth is that those are actually test camouflaged as defensive mechanism because she doesn't want other people to see her as an easy sexual targets. In the seduction community, those are termed as "shit tests" for a lady to see whether or not a man truly got what it takes to lead her on.
Hi, I'd like specific advice for my insecurity. You seem to read a lot about seduction, so I'll ask here.
I have crossed eyes. This makes me fearful that she will notice during our conversation and become disgusted by it, deciding to reject an otherwise interesting man. So I live a life of fear and never improve, because if I were to put in the time to get charming, a good body, boldness and all the rest, I still feel that when it comes to sustained eye contact, my crossed eye will turn her off and she will leave me.
I know there are options out there that can fix my eyes to be normal, after many months or years of hard work and muscle exercises. I know that if I were to go that route I would make more of an effort when it comes to women. However, I live too far away from vision therapists at this time and can't afford to move closer, so the eye training will have to come at a later time.
But I still want to succeed with women.
So tell me, what's your opinion on my issue? I know some people will say just get over it and everything will be fine if you take care of the other things, but I'm not convinced. How should I handle this?
lol at all of this, if you want to get a girl just be someone that girls will like and don't be clueless. It doesn't take a fucking guide, just self-awareness.I like how every example is that you go home alone if you break a rule but take a girl home if you follow one.
I dont get the hate. Self respect, confidence, beeing charming, speaking to a girls emotions - all those things are completely true. What he sais is pretty accurate on how to "have girls like/ want" you.
On November 18 2013 13:07 hp.Shell wrote: Hi, I'd like specific advice for my insecurity. You seem to read a lot about seduction, so I'll ask here.
I have crossed eyes. This makes me fearful that she will notice during our conversation and become disgusted by it, deciding to reject an otherwise interesting man. So I live a life of fear and never improve, because if I were to put in the time to get charming, a good body, boldness and all the rest, I still feel that when it comes to sustained eye contact, my crossed eye will turn her off and she will leave me.
I know there are options out there that can fix my eyes to be normal, after many months or years of hard work and muscle exercises. I know that if I were to go that route I would make more of an effort when it comes to women. However, I live too far away from vision therapists at this time and can't afford to move closer, so the eye training will have to come at a later time.
But I still want to succeed with women.
So tell me, what's your opinion on my issue? I know some people will say just get over it and everything will be fine if you take care of the other things, but I'm not convinced. How should I handle this?
try to find a way to bring it out in the open asap. sooner u both talk or laugh abt it the better
Give me some advice about emotional stability... since this seems to be screwing up my relationships in general. I was thinking to replace male friends with female friends and then proceed from there. But how can I do that when I work in IT company with only male zombies...
On November 18 2013 13:07 hp.Shell wrote: Hi, I'd like specific advice for my insecurity. You seem to read a lot about seduction, so I'll ask here.
I have crossed eyes. This makes me fearful that she will notice during our conversation and become disgusted by it, deciding to reject an otherwise interesting man. So I live a life of fear and never improve, because if I were to put in the time to get charming, a good body, boldness and all the rest, I still feel that when it comes to sustained eye contact, my crossed eye will turn her off and she will leave me.
I know there are options out there that can fix my eyes to be normal, after many months or years of hard work and muscle exercises. I know that if I were to go that route I would make more of an effort when it comes to women. However, I live too far away from vision therapists at this time and can't afford to move closer, so the eye training will have to come at a later time.
But I still want to succeed with women.
So tell me, what's your opinion on my issue? I know some people will say just get over it and everything will be fine if you take care of the other things, but I'm not convinced. How should I handle this?
I think that you should be the one that 1st says something about it and the one who brings attention to it, by telling a funny story or something of why it happens or how it came about to happen, or making a joke about it, really early in the conversation, to just get it out of the way. It will make you seem confident, that even tho you have cross eye you are secured and you don't let it bother you or fade you in anyway and this can deff demonstrate higher value. then after a shared laugh the conversation can continue moving forward, and your mind can be rested about that subject and it wont be in the back of your head bothering you.
On November 18 2013 10:33 Xiphos wrote: The key for penetrating a woman's inner temple is simply being a great leader and she will grant you plenty of chances for you as a man to demonstrate such leadership. Questions like "So where are we going?" for dates and "What should I wear?" are signs that you need to show your decision-making skills. Those two are of course the more direct approach they would be taking in offering opportunities. Other subtleties include "I'm not interested in guys like you.", "You are one of those guys that approaches girls only for sex.", and/or "How many girls have you used that line on?". Some guys might think of those as complete hostility toward them but the truth is that those are actually test camouflaged as defensive mechanism because she doesn't want other people to see her as an easy sexual targets. In the seduction community, those are termed as "shit tests" for a lady to see whether or not a man truly got what it takes to lead her on.
you nailed, its very important to know how to react property to a shit test, it could be the difference in getting laid and going home to masturbate
On November 18 2013 21:06 LastWish wrote: Nice thread.
Give me some advice about emotional stability... since this seems to be screwing up my relationships in general. I was thinking to replace male friends with female friends and then proceed from there. But how can I do that when I work in IT company with only male zombies...
what do you mean by emotional stability? its too general.. are we talking about being bi polar? or too emotional?
On November 18 2013 13:57 Chocolate wrote: Want to have sex with a girl?
PUT YOUR HAND ON HER KNEE
lol at all of this, if you want to get a girl just be someone that girls will like and don't be clueless. It doesn't take a fucking guide, just self-awareness.I like how every example is that you go home alone if you break a rule but take a girl home if you follow one.
Hey man, Im glad you are a natural and all those things come easy for you. great for you.
but the things that you wrote, are very easy to just write, but not so easy to actually achieve.
everyone practices and puts hard work into things, to get better , either sports, games, studies etc, why not practice getting better at seducing hot woman and reading as much as possible to learn ?
Almost everything in here is spot on. Great blog, I wish I read this when I was 16 I was always good looking but due to various circumstances didn't develop much confidence until my middle age and the difference between how women treated me then and how they treat me now is astounding. I missed out on tons of pussy just because I was kind of a pussy myself, don't let that happen to you!
Women absolutely pick up on vibe and confidence (that's why it's called balls) more than they pick up on anything else, as long as it's not the slurred speech asshole type fake confidence you try to draw from the vodka bottle ^_^
My advice to you if you are young and looking to score, focus on yourself, take up a sport and take this blog to heart, and results with the ladies will come sooner or later.
It's true, self-awareness is the key, but remaining grounded in a fast society can be difficult! A small lapse in focusing on the present at the wrong time can spell disaster... especially when it comes to shit tests.
This blog was AMAZING. Good rules, well written and I have even learned some new english vocabulary Also I loved how at the end of every situation the couple goes to f*** ahah! 5 stars
On November 18 2013 13:57 Chocolate wrote: Want to have sex with a girl?
PUT YOUR HAND ON HER KNEE
lol at all of this, if you want to get a girl just be someone that girls will like and don't be clueless. It doesn't take a fucking guide, just self-awareness.I like how every example is that you go home alone if you break a rule but take a girl home if you follow one.
Hey man, Im glad you are a natural and all those things come easy for you. great for you.
but the things that you wrote, are very easy to just write, but not so easy to actually achieve.
everyone practices and puts hard work into things, to get better , either sports, games, studies etc, why not practice getting better at seducing hot woman and reading as much as possible to learn ?
This stuff comes naturally to 99% of people by virtue of being a human and growing up around regular human interaction.
I am in total agreement with you that this is all based on practice. But you aren't going to learn much just from reading what some guy thinks about getting girls. You have to go out there yourself. You have to actually understand how to interact socially rather than follow a formula of "oh shit she's shit testing me, better do the double neg into kino move." The problem with most people is that they are unattractive, nervous, or simply lack experience. Fix those things up as best as you can and you fix many of your problems. You don't need explicit instructions for that unless you are so wrapped up in yourself that you can't admit that you have a problem to begin with.
On November 18 2013 13:57 Chocolate wrote: Want to have sex with a girl?
PUT YOUR HAND ON HER KNEE
lol at all of this, if you want to get a girl just be someone that girls will like and don't be clueless. It doesn't take a fucking guide, just self-awareness.I like how every example is that you go home alone if you break a rule but take a girl home if you follow one.
Hey man, Im glad you are a natural and all those things come easy for you. great for you.
but the things that you wrote, are very easy to just write, but not so easy to actually achieve.
everyone practices and puts hard work into things, to get better , either sports, games, studies etc, why not practice getting better at seducing hot woman and reading as much as possible to learn ?
This stuff comes naturally to 99% of people by virtue of being a human and growing up around regular human interaction.
I am in total agreement with you that this is all based on practice. But you aren't going to learn much just from reading what some guy thinks about getting girls. You have to go out there yourself. You have to actually understand how to interact socially rather than follow a formula of "oh shit she's shit testing me, better do the double neg into kino move." The problem with most people is that they are unattractive, nervous, or simply lack experience. Fix those things up as best as you can and you fix many of your problems. You don't need explicit instructions for that unless you are so wrapped up in yourself that you can't admit that you have a problem to begin with.
Actually its pretty easy to react to "shit tests", just think to yourself "Oh gee an attractive man would answer it this way." and do that. Personally I'm great at coming up with lines on the fly but as you mentioned practice is important. I'm battling with my inner demons of body language right now. Before I use to smoke a ton so I get this natural gruff tone. Now that I don't anymore, my voice have rendered itself quite "feminine" which makes it quite difficult to build attraction.
However I have to disagree on getting rid of instruction for the "field". There are few key concepts that you have to follow or else you simply won't be able to construct those tensions with the lady. You need to be able to tell an intense story to the gal, captivate her attention with your smooth moves, and not show any form of weakness that she might think that you are not her time. Believe me, I've seen many dude with extreme charismatic confidence but due to the fact their "material" are lacking, girls see through that smoke and mirrors like a hawk that spot on their prey from 1 mile off the ground.
In terms of "routine-based approach" (P.S. I hate using PUA terms but they are there to "professionalize" the scene), you could totally memorize one opener that branches off into different type of situation and then find appropriate response to each answers and so on and so fourth. Its like StarCraft, you react accordingly in order to maximize your attractiveness. There is nothing wrong with that. If things work for YOU, DON'T care that others are ridiculing your techniques, they are only saying that because they can't pull it off with the same flare.
On November 18 2013 13:57 Chocolate wrote: Want to have sex with a girl?
PUT YOUR HAND ON HER KNEE
lol at all of this, if you want to get a girl just be someone that girls will like and don't be clueless. It doesn't take a fucking guide, just self-awareness.I like how every example is that you go home alone if you break a rule but take a girl home if you follow one.
Hey man, Im glad you are a natural and all those things come easy for you. great for you.
but the things that you wrote, are very easy to just write, but not so easy to actually achieve.
everyone practices and puts hard work into things, to get better , either sports, games, studies etc, why not practice getting better at seducing hot woman and reading as much as possible to learn ?
This stuff comes naturally to 99% of people by virtue of being a human and growing up around regular human interaction.
I am in total agreement with you that this is all based on practice. But you aren't going to learn much just from reading what some guy thinks about getting girls. You have to go out there yourself. You have to actually understand how to interact socially rather than follow a formula of "oh shit she's shit testing me, better do the double neg into kino move." The problem with most people is that they are unattractive, nervous, or simply lack experience. Fix those things up as best as you can and you fix many of your problems. You don't need explicit instructions for that unless you are so wrapped up in yourself that you can't admit that you have a problem to begin with.
Actually its pretty easy to react to "shit tests", just think to yourself "Oh gee an attractive man would answer it this way." and do that. Personally I'm great at coming up with lines on the fly but as you mentioned practice is important. I'm battling with my inner demons of body language right now. Before I use to smoke a ton so I get this natural gruff tone. Now that I don't anymore, my voice have rendered itself quite "feminine" which makes it quite difficult to build attraction.
However I have to disagree on getting rid of instruction for the "field". There are few key concepts that you have to follow or else you simply won't be able to construct those tensions with the lady. You need to be able to tell an intense story to the gal, captivate her attention with your smooth moves, and not show any form of weakness that she might think that you are not her time. Believe me, I've seen many dude with extreme charismatic confidence but due to the fact their "material" are lacking, girls see through that smoke and mirrors like a hawk that spot on their prey from 1 mile off the ground.
In terms of "routine-based approach" (P.S. I hate using PUA terms but they are there to "professionalize" the scene), you could totally memorize one opener that branches off into different type of situation and then find appropriate response to each answers and so on and so fourth. Its like StarCraft, you react accordingly in order to maximize your attractiveness. There is nothing wrong with that. If things work for YOU, DON'T care that others are ridiculing your techniques, they are only saying that because they can't pull it off with the same flare.
Re: Vocal tone,
breathing exercises help a ton. Also you could try singing practice and begin intoning from lower in your body. Lots of people speak from the chest, you want to speak from as low as possible, like the belly button or lower. I think the more you talk and just use your voice the better control you will have over the tone.
On November 18 2013 13:57 Chocolate wrote: Want to have sex with a girl?
PUT YOUR HAND ON HER KNEE
lol at all of this, if you want to get a girl just be someone that girls will like and don't be clueless. It doesn't take a fucking guide, just self-awareness.I like how every example is that you go home alone if you break a rule but take a girl home if you follow one.
Hey man, Im glad you are a natural and all those things come easy for you. great for you.
but the things that you wrote, are very easy to just write, but not so easy to actually achieve.
everyone practices and puts hard work into things, to get better , either sports, games, studies etc, why not practice getting better at seducing hot woman and reading as much as possible to learn ?
This stuff comes naturally to 99% of people by virtue of being a human and growing up around regular human interaction.
I am in total agreement with you that this is all based on practice. But you aren't going to learn much just from reading what some guy thinks about getting girls. You have to go out there yourself. You have to actually understand how to interact socially rather than follow a formula of "oh shit she's shit testing me, better do the double neg into kino move." The problem with most people is that they are unattractive, nervous, or simply lack experience. Fix those things up as best as you can and you fix many of your problems. You don't need explicit instructions for that unless you are so wrapped up in yourself that you can't admit that you have a problem to begin with.
Actually its pretty easy to react to "shit tests", just think to yourself "Oh gee an attractive man would answer it this way." and do that. Personally I'm great at coming up with lines on the fly but as you mentioned practice is important. I'm battling with my inner demons of body language right now. Before I use to smoke a ton so I get this natural gruff tone. Now that I don't anymore, my voice have rendered itself quite "feminine" which makes it quite difficult to build attraction.
However I have to disagree on getting rid of instruction for the "field". There are few key concepts that you have to follow or else you simply won't be able to construct those tensions with the lady. You need to be able to tell an intense story to the gal, captivate her attention with your smooth moves, and not show any form of weakness that she might think that you are not her time. Believe me, I've seen many dude with extreme charismatic confidence but due to the fact their "material" are lacking, girls see through that smoke and mirrors like a hawk that spot on their prey from 1 mile off the ground.
In terms of "routine-based approach" (P.S. I hate using PUA terms but they are there to "professionalize" the scene), you could totally memorize one opener that branches off into different type of situation and then find appropriate response to each answers and so on and so fourth. Its like StarCraft, you react accordingly in order to maximize your attractiveness. There is nothing wrong with that. If things work for YOU, DON'T care that others are ridiculing your techniques, they are only saying that because they can't pull it off with the same flare.
Re: Vocal tone,
breathing exercises help a ton. Also you could try singing practice and begin intoning from lower in your body. Lots of people speak from the chest, you want to speak from as low as possible, like the belly button or lower. I think the more you talk and just use your voice the better control you will have over the tone.
Oh my, I must thank you so very much with the "belly button" techniques. Not sure if I did it correctly or not. Right now, when I use it, it feels extreme "bloating" pressure pushing out of the stomach and so far it truly did help with my vocal tone. My question is that if that is what you actually suppose to feel or not? Again much appreciated, this is some life improving advice.
P.S. This is the only techniques that I've tried w/o hurting my throats after a while. The only "downside" is that instead of taking more frequent breath, you have to take in a lot at once.
On November 18 2013 13:57 Chocolate wrote: Want to have sex with a girl?
PUT YOUR HAND ON HER KNEE
lol at all of this, if you want to get a girl just be someone that girls will like and don't be clueless. It doesn't take a fucking guide, just self-awareness.I like how every example is that you go home alone if you break a rule but take a girl home if you follow one.
Hey man, Im glad you are a natural and all those things come easy for you. great for you.
but the things that you wrote, are very easy to just write, but not so easy to actually achieve.
everyone practices and puts hard work into things, to get better , either sports, games, studies etc, why not practice getting better at seducing hot woman and reading as much as possible to learn ?
This stuff comes naturally to 99% of people by virtue of being a human and growing up around regular human interaction.
I am in total agreement with you that this is all based on practice. But you aren't going to learn much just from reading what some guy thinks about getting girls. You have to go out there yourself. You have to actually understand how to interact socially rather than follow a formula of "oh shit she's shit testing me, better do the double neg into kino move." The problem with most people is that they are unattractive, nervous, or simply lack experience. Fix those things up as best as you can and you fix many of your problems. You don't need explicit instructions for that unless you are so wrapped up in yourself that you can't admit that you have a problem to begin with.
Actually its pretty easy to react to "shit tests", just think to yourself "Oh gee an attractive man would answer it this way." and do that. Personally I'm great at coming up with lines on the fly but as you mentioned practice is important. I'm battling with my inner demons of body language right now. Before I use to smoke a ton so I get this natural gruff tone. Now that I don't anymore, my voice have rendered itself quite "feminine" which makes it quite difficult to build attraction.
However I have to disagree on getting rid of instruction for the "field". There are few key concepts that you have to follow or else you simply won't be able to construct those tensions with the lady. You need to be able to tell an intense story to the gal, captivate her attention with your smooth moves, and not show any form of weakness that she might think that you are not her time. Believe me, I've seen many dude with extreme charismatic confidence but due to the fact their "material" are lacking, girls see through that smoke and mirrors like a hawk that spot on their prey from 1 mile off the ground.
In terms of "routine-based approach" (P.S. I hate using PUA terms but they are there to "professionalize" the scene), you could totally memorize one opener that branches off into different type of situation and then find appropriate response to each answers and so on and so fourth. Its like StarCraft, you react accordingly in order to maximize your attractiveness. There is nothing wrong with that. If things work for YOU, DON'T care that others are ridiculing your techniques, they are only saying that because they can't pull it off with the same flare.
Re: Vocal tone,
breathing exercises help a ton. Also you could try singing practice and begin intoning from lower in your body. Lots of people speak from the chest, you want to speak from as low as possible, like the belly button or lower. I think the more you talk and just use your voice the better control you will have over the tone.
Oh my, I must thank you so very much with the "belly button" techniques. Not sure if I did it correctly or not. Right now, when I use it, it feels extreme "bloating" pressure pushing out of the stomach and so far it truly did help with my vocal tone. My question is that if that is what you actually suppose to feel or not? Again much appreciated, this is some life improving advice.
P.S. This is the only techniques that I've tried w/o hurting my throats after a while. The only "downside" is that instead of taking more frequent breath, you have to take in a lot at once.
Edit: Note for those who think "seduction" is just lame tricks! We're discussing improvement!
Alpha Male Voice Resonator As promised, from my post about ‘Alpha Body Language’, I offered techniques on how to achieve that ‘deep booming voice’ that most of the gurus talk about. And since the only people I enjoy teasing are women, I’m going to deliver the goods. Background: I consider myself a good/ very good actor. I don’t have problems getting work, but if there is one area where I outclass mostly every other actor in, it is with my voice. I make my living doing cartoon voices and dubbing movies. Okay, so you’re in a club, you’re opening a set, and you have to keep their attention with, among other things, a voice that can project over the loud music. Now, a simple method would be to lower your voice by talking deeper. Many people try this by just lowering their Adam’s apple. This is wrong. Many may find by the end of the night, that their voice is totally fucked after yelling for a bunch of hours in a smokey environment. If you want to permanently fuck up your voice for years to come, then keep doing this. However, if you want to develop a voice where you don’t have to yell, and you just naturally speak in an Alpha voice, then read on. 1. Breath placement/ resonators. First, let’s locate the proper resonator placements. A resonator is basically where your voice vibrates from. Say this out loud “Ahhhhh� for about five seconds. Try to notice where your voice is vibrating from. There are four major resonators we are going to deal with here. a. Head voice. Say “Ahhh� again, and try to make it resonate from the top of your head. Place your hand on the top of your head, and heighten your voice so that you feel the vibration on the crown of your head. You will notice this voice is far more high-pitched than your normal voice. Feel it? Good. That’s your AFC voice. Use it only in comical situations. b. Throat voice. Saying “Ahhhh� again, try to make it resonate from your throat voice. Now, you will notice that you have much more range here, but even when you lower your voice to a deeper tone, it will seem a bit forced.. almost like a newscaster or an informercal announcer. This is where most guys are resonating from. It’s natural, but this must be fixed. c. Chest resonator. Many times when I see an HB, my physiology reacts, and I begin to hold in my breath. My breath is held in the upper chest. All the air is in that upper area, and I stifle the full quality and range of my voice. I think a lot of us do this. If you are in this area, you are not relaxed. You want your deep, booming voice to come from a place where you are relaxed, as this will be congruent with your body language. Now, try to resonate your voice downwards so that it vibrates from your sternum. Your sternum is that vulnerable place center and downwards from your pecs and above your ab muscles. Say “ohhhh� to find this resonator. d. Gutteral resonance. Okay, here we are: the Alpha resonator. Stand with your legs at shoulder width apart, and resonate the word “uhhhh� until you find it resonating from your lower belly, or your gut (guttural). You will find it to be much deeper than the others, and in fact, you will have to take a deeper, more relaxed breath to access this. You should be able to feel it resonate in your upper groin, and through your anus as well. It should feel good. In fact, when having sex, when you resonate your moaning from here, it increases the experience. Many tantra experts advocate this. As this is the place where you should be talking from, you will notice no strain on your throat, your adam’s apple is centered, and you feel more relaxed. As well, you will notice that your lower belly will stick out somewhat. Notice how guys like Pavorotti are fat? His resonator is huuuuuge. Most operatic singers do NOT work their abs, as those tight muscles are too tight and inflexible to access this resonator. This also might seem conflicting with your Alpha body posture, but you will find that it flows with the curvature of your spine. Okay, great, now that we’ve located this, it’s time to sustain it. Your voice is built up with muscles, and as a lot of guys here go to the gym to work their biceps and pecs, you need to build these muscles as well on a day-by-day process. When I’m doing any performance, including call a chick on the phone, or going out to a club, I do a thrity minute routine to locate my voice and to center and relax myself. I don’t have the time to give you my entire workout right now, but I will concentrate this small tutorial with the basic exercises that you will need to obtain, maintain and sustain the Alpha Male Resonator. 2. “Glottals Times Three : Ed Is An Odd Egg Up On An Eve� Okay, you see that weird phrase up there that starts with “Ed� ? I want you to only use the vowels in each word. Sustain this sound, and resonate it three times, stopping briefly between each sound. Huh? I’ll demonstrate: a. “Ed� would be said as: “Ehhhh… Ehhhh… Ehhhhhh�. Make sure you feel your belly resonating. Do not take an inhale between each one. Do it all on one breath, pausing briefly between each one, and sustaining the breath in the same position. Some of you may notice you are jutting your belly out, and your sound comes out choppy or forced. Keep doing this until it comes out smoothly, almost like a song. b. “Is� would be “Ihhh… Ihh… Ihhhhhhh�. Remember to sustain the last one longer than the first two. c. “An� : This is what is called a “flat� a, as in “Apple� or “Aveue,� or “Alpha�. It is not the same “A� sound as “Apartment�, “Always� or “Also�. You notice this because as you watch the formation of your mouth you will see the shape inside your mind’s eye changes. Try it. Feel where your mouth changes inside. d. “Odd� This vowel sound sounds like “Awe�. Like the ‘o’ in God. You will see it’s easy to access the lower resonators here. Try this sound, as well as the “O� sound in words like “Owe� and “Over�. e. “Up� This sound is “Uhh.. uhhh.. uhhhhhhhhhh�. f. “An�. Notice this vowel sound? It’s the exact opposite as the one I spoke about in ‘c.’ g. ‘Eve’ – (the stage name of my ex-girlfriend who’s a stripper.. hehe). Notice this “E� sound to be totally different from the ‘E’ sound in ‘Ed’. This resonator will resonate higher, more like in the chest. As it is important to access the Alpha male resonator, try ALL of these in ALL of resonators. This is because in order to tell an interesting story, you need to use all sorts of different tonalities. As you begin to repeat these exercises on a daily basis, you will notice your higher resonating areas will begin to vibrate and resonate more loudly. Let me just clear up something: Projecting your voice does not mean yelling. Amateur actors do this. When you go to the theatre, the actors are not yelling at each other, but they are speaking in a hightened voice so all can hear. As long as your voice resonates , you will not have to worry about yelling. The resonation takes care of this for you. It’s like when an AFC driving his car by you booming his loud music. What do you hear when he drives off in the distance? The bass. Why is that? Most sound engineers and muisicians will tell you that bass travels farther than all other sounds because it vibrates through the ground. When my parents used to come into my room to tell me to lower my music, I wouldn’t actually lower the volume. I’d just lower the bass, and they wouldn’t complain again. The goal here is to plug the ‘bass’ into ALL of your resonators so you can be heard clearly, and conscisely. As well, when doing your phone game, you will be astounded at how many girls will get turned on by your phone voice. I have f-closed so many girls over the phone over the years that I can’t even count them anymore. This makes it so much easier to f-close them in real life, because they’ve already pictured doing this with you. Have fun, practice these, and above all, let me know how it’s going and if you need more clarification. I will post more exercises in the coming days/weeks as you master these. Some of these will blow your minds at how effective they are. All the best. Dudemtl
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I was always good looking but due to various circumstances didn't develop much confidence until my middle age and the difference between how women treated me then and how they treat me now is astounding. I missed out on tons of pussy just because I was kind of a pussy myself, don't let that happen to you!
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Also I loved how at the end of every situation the couple goes to f*** ahah! 5 stars 
