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KillerSOS
United States4207 Posts
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On October 07 2013 06:13 SixStrings wrote: I don't think many people think of Americans in general as "ignorant of world affairs". It's just that you have no real reason to follow politics of minor countries. Do you know anything about current foreign policies in Albania? Didn't think so. But you can bet your ass that Fatmir Krasnicki (the Albanian equivalent of Joe Sixpack) knows about USA politics. Not because Fatmir is more educated or interested than Joe, but because American politics have a much larger impact on a global scale. I saw this hilarious Albanian rap video where it's a bunch of hicks rapping about being gangsters and waving muskets around, but I cannot remember the name of the artist for the life of me. It was really funny though. | ||
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
Like so: *someone says Reagan was a bad president* Ronald Reagan broke down the berlin wall riding a bald eagle while eating apple pie, what are you a commie? THIS IS MURICA. It's more hyperbole than an actual critique of any uneducated, physically unfit, homophobic, conservative, whatever stereotype you want to make. I don't even think it necessarily has to be conservative, just has to be about anything "american" (eg baseball, apple pie, ford made trucks, etc) | ||
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Fission
Canada1184 Posts
It's important to note that the term 'Murican as colloquially used carries really strong classist undertones here. It's often used specifically to target persons who would likely self-identify as rural, 'redneck', or more poorly educated. An example could be the phrase (as I've heard) "MURICA FERRRRK YERRRR", which is (I guess) some kind of amalgamation of the Team America motto and the "dey tuk err jerrrbs" from South Park. TLDR: definitely used as a pejorative/derogatory, but fairly mild. Seems to be used mostly to target 'rednecks' and Republicans. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
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itsjustatank
Hong Kong9164 Posts
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
As far as I know the term murican was first used by northern americans to poke fun at southern conservatism, however the international community seems to believe that it is an actual offensive insult. I have only ever heard it used in a lighthearted and joking context edit: sc4k said it pretty well | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
But I think we can all agree that itsjustatank is most definitely not a true murican. Though I can't disprove his claim of freedom. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
Because maybe we're aquatic Americans. Did you think of that? Living the "Salt Life"? Also, it may be a term used by some Americans to describe other Americans - without realizing the irony that many people from around the world seem to view all Americans in that way. Of course, if I'm outside of the United States, I'm Canadian. Because they seem to attract less dislike. (Not Quebecois, though. Eff the Quebecois. And yes, I'm half-Canadian, so it works, eh?) | ||
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Kashll
United States1117 Posts
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hoot00
United States77 Posts
edit: this guy's got it right + Show Spoiler + On October 07 2013 06:06 ninazerg wrote: The actual origin comes from former President George W. Bush's Texas accent, saying "Amurica", and the term was initially used to mock the Bush-mindset (or perception thereof) concerning the ideas of American Exceptionalism and Pre-emptive War. Although both concepts are relatively far apart, it seems clear that former President Bush believed in both, lending credence to the broader international opinion that the US was more inclined to engage in a pre-emptive war against the will of the international community because of a belief in American Exceptionalism. This is perceived as the ultimate act of arrogance on the part of the United States, and although it is not clear if former President Bush's belief in American Exceptionalism was intertwined with his belief in pre-emptive war, I think the human tendency to oversimplify has led certain people to believe that the United States has a mentality of "We can do whatever we want, because we are the greatest nation in the world, and the best at everything". The term "Murica" is used almost exclusively in a derogatory manner, often as an ad hominem conjecture, to not only disparage the "Bush mentality" but the entire nation of the US in general. I've personally seen the term being used by mostly Western Europeans and Australians, but also some Americans. The term itself is eerily similar in origin to the slang term "nigger", which is based on the regional origin of the slaves brought from the Niger river region of Africa to America, although, to be fair, there is significantly less persecution and oppression involved (if any, besides basic mockery) to "Muricans" as there is to "Niggers". There is a very profound historical context that separates both terms, but the origins and meanings are quite close, both alluding to: - Generally stupider than the rest of people without realizing it. - A group of people with an inability to be educated. - A lower group of people who resort to savagery if not restrained from doing so by more 'enlightened' human beings. - People who have a sense of pride that is unwarranted. I should also note that the term "Muricans" is directly almost exclusively towards a perceived sense of American ignorance, rather than the perceived arrogance of US citizens. Additionally, I would like to state that I am, in no way, offended by the term itself because it is meaningless without context, but I am very slightly offended by the perception that I am ignorant of world affairs and other cultures because I am American. | ||
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deathly rat
United Kingdom911 Posts
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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KwarK
United States43343 Posts
On October 07 2013 06:06 ninazerg wrote: The actual origin comes from former President George W. Bush's Texas accent, saying "Amurica", and the term was initially used to mock the Bush-mindset (or perception thereof) concerning the ideas of American Exceptionalism and Pre-emptive War. Although both concepts are relatively far apart, it seems clear that former President Bush believed in both, lending credence to the broader international opinion that the US was more inclined to engage in a pre-emptive war against the will of the international community because of a belief in American Exceptionalism. This is perceived as the ultimate act of arrogance on the part of the United States, and although it is not clear if former President Bush's belief in American Exceptionalism was intertwined with his belief in pre-emptive war, I think the human tendency to oversimplify has led certain people to believe that the United States has a mentality of "We can do whatever we want, because we are the greatest nation in the world, and the best at everything". The term "Murica" is used almost exclusively in a derogatory manner, often as an ad hominem conjecture, to not only disparage the "Bush mentality" but the entire nation of the US in general. I've personally seen the term being used by mostly Western Europeans and Australians, but also some Americans. The term itself is eerily similar in origin to the slang term "nigger", which is based on the regional origin of the slaves brought from the Niger river region of Africa to America, although, to be fair, there is significantly less persecution and oppression involved (if any, besides basic mockery) to "Muricans" as there is to "Niggers". There is a very profound historical context that separates both terms, but the origins and meanings are quite close, both alluding to: - Generally stupider than the rest of people without realizing it. - A group of people with an inability to be educated. - A lower group of people who resort to savagery if not restrained from doing so by more 'enlightened' human beings. - People who have a sense of pride that is unwarranted. I should also note that the term "Muricans" is directly almost exclusively towards a perceived sense of American ignorance, rather than the perceived arrogance of US citizens. Additionally, I would like to state that I am, in no way, offended by the term itself because it is meaningless without context, but I am very slightly offended by the perception that I am ignorant of world affairs and other cultures because I am American. The word nigger does not come from the Niger river, it is a bastardization of the word black. It's in no way similar to the word nigger either, at this point you appear to just be making shit up for no reason. Nobody thinks Americans are universally stupid, savage or racially inferior. You seem to have just gone full moron there. Wow. 'Murca is a satirical expression used to feign an uneducated pride in some stereotypical American achievement, hence the exclamation with an accent used to denote a lack of education. Here are two examples, one of the expression in its original usage and one showing how 'murca is used as satire. "We just had free and fair elections, America, land of the free" "I just shot a kid for trespassing on my yard, fuck yeah, 'murca" You can do a similar thing for other nations if you wish. For example "I'm not sure how I'll afford to feed my 10 kids, better have more, I love the glorious socialist people's republic of Sweden" That's not niggers either. Nigger is a completely different word. | ||
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
Some people still use it in a derogatory fashion, but in a lot of cases you'll see people using it to just mean American in general without any harm intended. | ||
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United States10328 Posts
On the other hand, Flamewheel and I say it all the time. | ||
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Passion
Netherlands1486 Posts
On October 07 2013 15:26 KwarK wrote: The word nigger does not come from the Niger river, it is a bastardization of the word black. It's in no way similar to the word nigger either, at this point you appear to just be making shit up for no reason. Nobody thinks Americans are universally stupid, savage or racially inferior. You seem to have just gone full moron there. Wow. 'Murca is a satirical expression used to feign an uneducated pride in some stereotypical American achievement, hence the exclamation with an accent used to denote a lack of education. Here are two examples, one of the expression in its original usage and one showing how 'murca is used as satire. "We just had free and fair elections, America, land of the free" "I just shot a kid for trespassing on my yard, fuck yeah, 'murca" You can do a similar thing for other nations if you wish. For example "I'm not sure how I'll afford to feed my 10 kids, better have more, I love the glorious socialist people's republic of Sweden" That's not niggers either. Nigger is a completely different word. Thanks for the nigger-correction x) However, it seems to me you lot are over interpreting the 'murica. Isn't it simply the closest the average American will get to correctly and fully pronouncing "America"? | ||
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vndestiny
Singapore3441 Posts
On October 07 2013 18:04 Passion wrote: Thanks for the nigger-correction x) However, it seems to me you lot are over interpreting the 'murica. Isn't it simply the closest the average American will get to correctly and fully pronouncing "America"? Huh? you meant it's because if the ave US citizen accent or because you think the ave American is too stupid to pronounce the word correctly? | ||
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