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Fundamental Problem with Space Exploration - Page 3

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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
September 26 2013 03:14 GMT
#41
On September 26 2013 07:59 HolyExlxF wrote:
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As human beings we should colonize space to ensure the survival of our species in case of a large collision or other great extinction event.


We should colonize space because it's fucking awesome.


We shouldn't colonize space for exactly the reason you quoted :x
Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 03:24:05
September 26 2013 03:23 GMT
#42
To add to this discussion; I'd like to mention current assumed maximum normal fecal discharge in a single event is .5L vs 1.5L for max diarrheal discharge. Bonus being after a diarrheal event, there is 2 day period of reduced feces production. Per NASA design requirements.

ps - this is american astronaut requirements, other nationalities may be less full of shit.
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Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
September 26 2013 03:31 GMT
#43
On September 26 2013 07:59 HolyExlxF wrote:
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As human beings we should colonize space to ensure the survival of our species in case of a large collision or other great extinction event.


We should colonize space because it's fucking awesome.

I'm with you there too. That is what inspired me to write the OP in the first place, just thinking about how awesome it is and then being like wait.... why aren't we doing ANYTHING to get there. I am trying to look at it practically and come up with what would be the best steps that society as a whole could take to achieve space exploration/colonization. Over the course of discussing the idea and then reading up on it (shoutout to packrat again, that article was really interesting+ Show Spoiler +

On September 26 2013 10:41 packrat386 wrote:
I'm sick of this debate without even having to hear it, but anybody interested in private development of space should look into Wasser and Jobes article here. It makes a great argument for it.

) it seems the first logical step is to get the law changed so that a corporation could own and sell the land that it colonizes and uses. This seems to be the biggest thing that could be done right now that would make strides towards space exploration/colonization.
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 05:34:40
September 26 2013 05:33 GMT
#44
I don't know if anyone mentioned this yet but, there are plenty of corporate space related programs. The red bull sponsored team got that Felix Baumgartner to break a bunch of space freefall records for example. There are other companies that offer short space flights for rich travelers, there is currently a bunch of people applying for the suicide mission to mars, etc. I honestly think this could become a huge problem when the technology becomes cheaper and easier to make. Probably one of the reasons the NSA has been spying on everyone.

Just think of the issues that arise when private organizations start blasting off rockets all over the place and trying to do things in space and even bringing stuff back to earth. It would definitely create new jurisdictions and trying to get materials to somewhere to own or build somewhere in space would just be controlled from earth directly by not allowing people to take off in the first place. ie; no colonizations unless govt says so, and since they all agree, no one is going to let you do this unless you bribe A LOT of people.

PS- like the video and other people have mentioned already, Antarctica is still not even figured out yet, how can we decide on moons, planets, and asteroids?
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tar
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany991 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 08:43:47
September 26 2013 08:43 GMT
#45
the law follows the changing reality not the other way round! Otherwise there would be no progress at all. reality changes, the law adapts. The things preventing mankind from going full out space travel are:
cost
physics

Both points have already been addressed here, I just want to add something:

There basically are no companies beyond the scope of governemnts when it comes to funding. Yes, the crisis has taken it s toll on government funded programms yet nasa's budget is still around 18 billion dollars which is solely focused on space exploration. there are no private companies that can afford to invest such a sum solely on space travel each year.
It's the same issue as with fundamental research: Companies cannot invest a major part of their liquid assests in something that is not making profits in at least the medium term or they will run out of money rather sooner than later.
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