• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 16:14
CET 22:14
KST 06:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 100SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1819Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship WardiTV Mondays $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone I would like to say something about StarCraft StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/
Tourneys
SLON Grand Finals – Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Elden Ring Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI 12 Days of Starcraft
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 809 users

GLHF - Page 25

Blogs > Intricacy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 23 24 25 26 27 39 Next All
This is a heated issue, but please keep the debate civil.
Personal insult is not 'discussion' and will be moderated. -Pg 36
Latty
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany567 Posts
August 16 2013 11:59 GMT
#481
like i wrote before, totally screw up on axioms part. nobody else to blame and badmouthing take afterwards is just stupid.

TB should stick to youtube shit and dont bother honest professional esport people anymore
"Nice, *claps* gogo kill kill, yeah bane speed, nice EU Power" Dimaga
pluu.mooh
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Austria142 Posts
August 16 2013 12:02 GMT
#482
On August 16 2013 20:29 TaKeSeN wrote:
Hey this is the first time i gonna put a statement her to the whole situation after the statements.

....

Thank you for reading my horrible text!

//Dennis


Really Dennis I must back you up there. Firstly: If you ever plan to participate in a tournament with an offline possibility you always check the financial backing from the hosters side. If they are not given and you can not pay for it on your own there is absolutly no reason to accept an invite. ALSO if you do not realize early enough, like Genna and just assume something that is actually the most important thing in participating in an offline event (financial plan on trips) you CAN NOT demand the right to be payed for. Dennis even wanted to pull in some of his money (which we all know he always does when needed and never stopped doing from the very first day on he got his apartment) but STILL Genna was not able to just pull of the tournament and give the spot to Millenium. Hell even before playing the online games Dennis should just have kicked em out. It was a not professional decision by Genna hoping for a solution on the hosters side he / they never even once stated to them. Clearly in this one I have to back up Dennis not considering the health status of Genna (for which I would have wished she had already pulled out the whole e-sports thing early, as we all just want the best for her). Summing up this I can just say it is probably gone to a better way for Genna despite the bad ending.

Openly showing chats of hosters and teams also seems not the right way and I for my part will in NO way STOP supporting Dennis and his team because of this "incident". It is time for everyone to understand the urgent need for professionality if you are working as a professional. ALSO TotalBiscuit STOP taking everything personal. People have their opinion and if you do not like it fuck it ok? Do not try to defend every single shit that surrounds you...

Dennis I will never stop supporting you!!! Thanks for your honesty.
R3m3mb3rM3
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany954 Posts
August 16 2013 12:03 GMT
#483
On August 16 2013 13:00 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 12:58 Joedaddy wrote:
Pretty shitty move when you make what one presumed to be a private conversation public. Even if you didn't think it was a big deal, Dennis obviously did.


Fuck Dennis. If he wasn't so concerned about saving face rather than being honest with everybody about his mismanaged tournament then some of this might not have happened. When you say "I hope there are legal consequences for what you've done" all bets are off, I lose any respect I've had for you. I hope Take enjoyed the free casting and the numbers, I'll never deal with him and his organisation ever again.


Yeah and who was concerned about saving face when he made private conversations public?
And who was conerned about saving face when he made private conversations public a second time just now?
Once again the most hypocritical personality in esports acting immature while calling others so. This is like the third time you pull this exact same publicity stunt and get mad at the shitstorm community while you are the shitty wizard summoning all the shitstorm tornados
got fucking dammit
why dont you just leave if you hate this community so much, you said it again and again, just go. Do your youtube thing and stop causing drama where none is needed.
baeric
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany649 Posts
August 16 2013 12:03 GMT
#484
My only hope that this will have no consequences on both sides. It's sad that genna already quitted.

And please people let it rest. Overanalyzing the whole thing just makes it worse.
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
August 16 2013 12:05 GMT
#485
So why exactly is all this shit being discussed in the public? What's the point? It hurts everyone who's involved.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
August 16 2013 12:06 GMT
#486
On August 16 2013 20:29 TaKeSeN wrote:
First of all i wanna appologize that i reacted emotional! This is not correct and nothing i can take back.

I want to appologize to the whole community for what i did wrong and the whole situation i honestly think no one is perfect expecially me and everyone does some mistakes but this makes me look so bad cause someone probably even wanted this happen...and didnt even try to fix stuff together.

This was MY honest statement which could even have more stuff in it - Its what I think and no one else.

I ve seen comments about NOW i won t watch TaKeTV anymore which really hurted me alot tbh but i think i explained my situation and what happend if people still say okay TaKe is an Idiot i respect it and i lost viewers cause this is what i think and did cause its me.

//Dennis

You're the man. Keep it up, I can't frikkin wait for the ATC Finals, don't let this get you down. Even though TaKeTV is not DreamHack, MLG, ESL or a big organisation with deep pockets and resources, you always manage to put up an amazing show, rivaling the best. You don't deserve to be involved in this shitstorm.

Thank you for being honest, sincere, and awesome!
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 12:18:35
August 16 2013 12:06 GMT
#487
On August 16 2013 20:29 TaKeSeN wrote:
Hey this is the first time i gonna put a statement her to the whole situation after the statements.

...


Thank you for reading my horrible text!

//Dennis


Take I just hope you realize that you still have much support and love from everybody and despite a few "I won't watch TakeTV any more" comments, if you look on Reddit and TL everyone is fed up with the TB and Genna drama train, leaking private conversations and insulting people is just not the way to go, regardless of what happened.

BTW I met you at HSC, you took us to Köngisburg and you are a great and honest guy, I hope you have a great ATC and keep doing what you do, greetings to Scarlett, she looks comfy on your couch .

Edit: Let's hope since we had the first official statement from Take, this thing is finally over and we can just enjoy this weekend. I will distance myself from the drama now.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 16 2013 12:07 GMT
#488
On August 16 2013 21:03 baeric wrote:
My only hope that this will have no consequences on both sides. It's sad that genna already quitted.

And please people let it rest. Overanalyzing the whole thing just makes it worse.


Lol you're a little late for that I'm afraid.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
WhizPower
Profile Joined June 2013
Netherlands33 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 12:11:51
August 16 2013 12:11 GMT
#489
On August 16 2013 20:46 Penev wrote:
Hopefully everyone will still support Axiom and TakeTV. If you're even considering to not do so based on this mess I'd say you are a fanatic not a fan.


I'll keep supporting TakeTV because Take has always been a great guy and didn't do anything wrong. I'll keep supporting Axiom because of the players, not of TB. Never been a fan of him.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
August 16 2013 12:11 GMT
#490
On August 16 2013 21:03 baeric wrote:
My only hope that this will have no consequences on both sides. It's sad that genna already quitted.

And please people let it rest. Overanalyzing the whole thing just makes it worse.


yeah, that's the only thing I want to say to this as well. I hope when the dust settles and the community moves on to the next drama (that'll happen sooner or later anyway) that everyone will be fine. I hope that ATC Finals will be a success for Take and his crew and I hope that Axiom will work well under TB and that Genna will find some rest and live a happier life after this is all over.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
styLesdavis
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany833 Posts
August 16 2013 12:11 GMT
#491
TakeTV <3
LiquidTLO - LiquidTaeja - LiquidHero - LiquidSnute - LiquidRet
Czarnodziej
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland624 Posts
August 16 2013 12:12 GMT
#492
On August 16 2013 21:06 Musicus wrote:
on Reddit and TL everyone is fed up with the TB and Genna drama train, leaking private conversations and insulting people is just not the way to go, regardless of what happened.

A precise TL;DR of the whole situation here.
zanga
Profile Joined September 2011
659 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 12:14:18
August 16 2013 12:12 GMT
#493
Take - hey, great post straight from the heart, thank you. We respect you a lot and nobody is "mad" of course... I am sure you did nothing wrong and you are an absolute KEY asset to the SC2 and esport-community.

What happened is just too bad really. I cant say more since only the involved parties know. We have to look within ourselves and just do your best, nothing more can be asked.

Everybody move forward, gl hf.
(:
BurningRanger
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany303 Posts
August 16 2013 12:15 GMT
#494
On August 16 2013 20:52 boxerfred wrote:Guess I shouldn't judge before reading both sides

That's what I thought right from the start and tbh a lot of people here should do this too, instead of being so trigger happy as soon as an opportunity to throw shit at someone pops up.

Both sides have made mistakes, but that can happen. Dragging it into public to start a shitstorm and try to look good oneself is just childish.
My Livestream: http://www.twitch.tv/burningranger | My youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/BurningR4nger
partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
August 16 2013 12:16 GMT
#495
do both parties really have to create this big internet thing that causes a lot of fighting/picking sides within the community? can't they just work this out via private messages?
#1 Official Hack Fan|#2 Bomber behind Wintex.|Curious|Life|Flash|TY|Cure|Maru|sOs|Jin Air Green Wings fighting!|SBENU Fighting!|
Stoffelhase
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany162 Posts
August 16 2013 12:16 GMT
#496
some might know i am not the biggest taketv fan of all, but besides from overreacting slightly and afterwards apologizing (what is a very minor thing), he did nothing wrong and i totally understand to be angry if you leak private (business) chat. I dont like genna and tb are blaming him so bad here :/
Voyage
Profile Joined May 2013
Germany71 Posts
August 16 2013 12:16 GMT
#497
On August 16 2013 19:15 XinSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
Would take a thousands of words to explain the story but anyways, why do you quoto a private conversation again when you retire ? You want to "hurt" him ? make him feel bad ? Who are you to do that, seriously. As he said it's simply not allowed.


I can see why Take would not want the second log to go public but why the harsh reaction about the first one? It did show him and Acer acting in the best way possible, trying to help fix a problem they had not caused. Secrecy for secrecy's sake?



IMO why Take did not want the mail to be public: 1500$ per team were more or less communicated. Ax cannot make it at this rate of compensation, Liquid aswell, Take tries to make it happen by raising the amount of compensation (apparently was not possible/was aborted after mails went public). Isn't it obvious that other teams would also demand higher compensations?
Ethi
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany275 Posts
August 16 2013 12:17 GMT
#498
On August 16 2013 21:16 partydude89 wrote:
do both parties really have to create this big internet thing that causes a lot of fighting/picking sides within the community? can't they just work this out via private messages?

Looks like not with Genna involved.
FroZeNTV
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany2 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 12:18:18
August 16 2013 12:17 GMT
#499
with posting privat chat from take Genna fcked over herself so every1 will think twice what he says to her and also fcked up her Team by reacting like a child very bad moves Genna very bad
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
August 16 2013 12:20 GMT
#500
Lol this is hilarious. Genna's first blog post goes way too indepth to explain everything, it could have been summarized in 1/3 of the text. She fucked up not checking the financial aspect. TakeTV fucked up not providing that information. In the end everyone fucked up and i honestly don't see what the point of her first blog post even was.

Then this gets blown way out of proportion like a bunch of six year olds. Genna quit's over some silly drama(maybe just looking for an exscuse to get out anyway) Take overreacts to some silly skype logs and then TB goes of the rails as usual and starts throwing insults around.

This is hurting e-sports etc but really, this is just a bunch of people being very unprofessional and messing up in a lot of aspects.
Prev 1 23 24 25 26 27 39 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
21:00
Best Games of SC
Reynor vs Clem
MaxPax vs TBD
SHIN vs TBD
Rogue vs TBD
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 523
Harstem 323
PiGStarcraft95
ProTech86
UpATreeSC 81
Railgan 39
RushiSC 32
SC2Nice 23
StarCraft: Brood War
Mini 145
Dewaltoss 110
Shuttle 88
firebathero 80
Killer 29
Sexy 21
JYJ 18
yabsab 11
Dota 2
Fuzer 257
febbydoto19
League of Legends
C9.Mang0220
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps2623
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu550
Other Games
Grubby5769
tarik_tv2581
FrodaN2367
Beastyqt1130
B2W.Neo378
mouzStarbuck306
ArmadaUGS185
Livibee96
KnowMe95
IndyStarCraft 84
QueenE74
ZombieGrub31
PPMD23
fl0m0
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 18
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 197
• naamasc244
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV859
Other Games
• imaqtpie3098
• Shiphtur381
• tFFMrPink 22
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
5h 46m
OSC
14h 46m
IPSL
19h 46m
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
20h 46m
OSC
1d 14h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 16h
Replay Cast
2 days
RotterdaM Event
2 days
Patches Events
2 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
4 days
OSC
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-Race Season 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
Escore Tournament S1: W2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.