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This is a heated issue, but please keep the debate civil.
Personal insult is not 'discussion' and will be moderated. -Pg 36
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
August 16 2013 05:17 GMT
#241
Well....that escalated quickly! Everything seemed fine to me after all the explanations so I dunno why it escalated to this level. Axiom got replaced by millennium anyways and that would probably lead to more viewers with a european team there too, so I dunno why Take haff to be so mad? You have my pitchfork genna! It sounds like you didn't do anything terribly wrong and take overreacted.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
MistaBlue
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
37 Posts
August 16 2013 05:17 GMT
#242
On August 16 2013 12:56 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 12:53 sumsaR wrote:
I'm not sure I understand why you're retiring. Because of something stupid someone said in a private chat about something stupid?


The audacity that anyone is questioning her decision to leave and pretending to know what's going on in her head, the sheer audacity.




TB, we can't read her mind. How do you expect us to understand something that is not explained? I understand you and Genna are frustrated, I just have NO idea why.
Boner Amanda
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
August 16 2013 05:17 GMT
#243
You know what would be so refreshing? If both parties could sort this privately while publicly apologizing for turning it into a spectacle in the first place. Save 10 pages of bickering and refuting this and that, save one more shovel of shit on the pile, and surprise everyone in the community by acting like business-minded individuals. I'm sure all players involved with both parties will be grateful.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 05:23:25
August 16 2013 05:19 GMT
#244
edit: whatever. i agree with brood.
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
August 16 2013 05:19 GMT
#245
TB's thoughts on Genna's retirement went mostly unnoticed in this thread, but it really is superb and everyone should listen to it.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44052 Posts
August 16 2013 05:21 GMT
#246
On August 16 2013 14:17 BroOd wrote:
You know what would be so refreshing? If both parties could sort this privately while publicly apologizing for turning it into a spectacle in the first place. Save 10 pages of bickering and refuting this and that, save one more shovel of shit on the pile, and surprise everyone in the community by acting like business-minded individuals. I'm sure all players involved with both parties will be grateful.


That's GM level e-sports PR right there.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44052 Posts
August 16 2013 05:21 GMT
#247
On August 16 2013 14:19 Aylear wrote:
TB's thoughts on Genna's retirement went mostly unnoticed in this thread, but it really is superb and everyone should listen to it.


He just blogged about it too.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
steff
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom40 Posts
August 16 2013 05:22 GMT
#248
On August 16 2013 14:19 Aylear wrote:
TB's thoughts on Genna's retirement went mostly unnoticed in this thread, but it really is superb and everyone should listen to it.


Sanctimony in stereo guys, worth a listen just for that.

The one positive is he promises to take a step back from TL/reddit and twitter now so at least he might stop putting his foot in his mouth all the time.

hail to the king baby
Abradix1
Profile Joined November 2012
Netherlands609 Posts
August 16 2013 05:22 GMT
#249
TaKe has all right to complain if you post non-public information about his deal with Acer online, because essentially Acer now got bad publicity because you were bitching about how little money they were willing to give. They're sponsoring events to get people to like Acer, not so the entire Biscuit family and following can hate them for not paying for your team to fly over. That might not have been your intent, but it is what happened.

This and the last blog just oozes unprofessionalism, so in the end this is the best solution I suppose.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 05:33:28
August 16 2013 05:23 GMT
#250
nthg happened :D
Zest fanboy.
Widz
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden75 Posts
August 16 2013 05:26 GMT
#251
Feels like really bad manner to post private chat loggs online for no reason. Why not show some respect?

Not like Take did something horrible.
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 05:27:41
August 16 2013 05:26 GMT
#252
On August 16 2013 14:23 sAsImre wrote:

doing the idiot on purpose isn't helping everyone.


you're right. it is not, that why i deleted my post
Maxhster
Profile Joined March 2011
Fiji473 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 05:33:44
August 16 2013 05:27 GMT
#253
i guess its good that Genna is owning up to her mistake, posting private chat information that can endanger someones business is no small feat. When you cant stay professional and have to get emotionally involved in business decisions you have no place managing anything.

TB argues that Takes only issue with this is about saving face, its more than that. Its about Takes business and how he can make a living of it, who would sponsor him ever again when he cant control that his business partners are that open with private conversations?
rawr
philliechease
Profile Joined February 2013
United States16 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 05:36:00
August 16 2013 05:31 GMT
#254
The worst thing that comes out of this is that more and more people are turned off by the shit that goes on in esports. Both parties are very involved in the scene, but all this is going to do is create divisions and where does it end up? Take loses viewership from the people on TB's side (HSC/ATC are amazing for the scene, especially in a time where tournaments are so scarce), TB/Genna/Axiom lose some respect from the people on Take's side (Shoutcraft, keeping the grassroots NA scene on it's last leg), most likely people working in the scene will start to slowly edge towards one side or another, and Genna has stepped down from managing Axiom Miscommunication is the root of all this, and it's a shame that it's caused all this.
Team Grubby! :D
CarbonTwelve
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia525 Posts
August 16 2013 05:32 GMT
#255
On August 16 2013 14:22 Abradix1 wrote:
TaKe has all right to complain if you post non-public information about his deal with Acer online, because essentially Acer now got bad publicity because you were bitching about how little money they were willing to give.


Except that Acer said they didn't mind what was posted.

They're sponsoring events to get people to like Acer, not so the entire Biscuit family and following can hate them for not paying for your team to fly over. That might not have been your intent, but it is what happened.


Except that Genna & TB made it clear that they don't and never blamed Acer.

As for the whole "private conversation" thing; IMO it's the internet - if you put something out there then you should be prepared for the possibility that it will be made publicly available. As far as I can tell TaKe never said anything that could be interpreted badly (before the legal threats), and to me it showed him in very good light. If he was upset that it got posted, then ok, that's his prerogative, but legal threats were both unfounded and unnecessary, and as I've said he should have been prepared that it could go public.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 05:33:04
August 16 2013 05:32 GMT
#256
On August 16 2013 14:26 Finrod1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 14:23 sAsImre wrote:

doing the idiot on purpose isn't helping everyone.


you're right. it is not, that why i deleted my post


^^ just editing mine so
Zest fanboy.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 16 2013 05:35 GMT
#257
On August 16 2013 14:17 BroOd wrote:
You know what would be so refreshing? If both parties could sort this privately while publicly apologizing for turning it into a spectacle in the first place. Save 10 pages of bickering and refuting this and that, save one more shovel of shit on the pile, and surprise everyone in the community by acting like business-minded individuals. I'm sure all players involved with both parties will be grateful.

I wish this could happen but I don't think it will.
Moderatorlickypiddy
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 05:43:43
August 16 2013 05:39 GMT
#258
On August 16 2013 14:17 Nimic wrote:
How can TB possibly have the time to run the team like that? Besides, isn't he repeatedly pointing out that he's terrible at organizing stuff, which is why he needs someone like Genna to do that part?


Also there's the issue of how to say things as a prominent person. A good majority of TB's comments in the past would have been far more acceptable had he not been such a prominent member of the community, and thus put on a pedestal and expected to be a little more perfect than everyone else. In order to fit his new role, he's going to have to tone down the aggression by a TON while simultaneously shouldering the massive spike in stress that broke down his wife... in addition to his responsibilities as a professional Youtuber.
Plan B would be to avoid commenting entirely. Come to think of it, that should be Plan A. If TB ever becomes consistently involved in the community and PC, I'll have to call the Canadian embassy because obviously he's been replaced by his evil twin. Or good twin.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
chaos021
Profile Joined March 2012
United States258 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 05:42:45
August 16 2013 05:40 GMT
#259
On August 16 2013 14:22 steff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 14:19 Aylear wrote:
TB's thoughts on Genna's retirement went mostly unnoticed in this thread, but it really is superb and everyone should listen to it.


Sanctimony in stereo guys, worth a listen just for that.

The one positive is he promises to take a step back from TL/reddit and twitter now so at least he might stop putting his foot in his mouth all the time.



Maybe he'll put it in your ass now.

The dude is trying to give you a glimpse of the toll team management has taken, and you respond with this. You're one of the types of persons he's talking about in that clip.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
August 16 2013 05:41 GMT
#260
On August 16 2013 14:22 steff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 14:19 Aylear wrote:
TB's thoughts on Genna's retirement went mostly unnoticed in this thread, but it really is superb and everyone should listen to it.


Sanctimony in stereo guys, worth a listen just for that.

The one positive is he promises to take a step back from TL/reddit and twitter now so at least he might stop putting his foot in his mouth all the time.



If I don't have to read retarded shit from you guys then it'll probably be the best thing that's ever happened to me.

Oh and it's in mono.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
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