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Top30 Foreigner Ranking, June 2013 - Page 2

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ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1717 Posts
June 10 2013 03:35 GMT
#21
wtf, TLO dimaga and moonglade so fucking low
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SecondHand
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States329 Posts
June 10 2013 03:57 GMT
#22
these are so wrong. we've all been trolled
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tjtombo
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States295 Posts
June 10 2013 04:01 GMT
#23
kane? suppy? state?
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smashlloyd20
Profile Joined October 2012
251 Posts
June 10 2013 04:25 GMT
#24
I think this is a fairly solid list considering how volatile (and sometimes terrible) the Western scene is. The only two glaring exceptions are Suppy, who should be around 10-15, and Moonglade who deserves top 6-8 at least.
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
June 10 2013 04:31 GMT
#25
This is a great list. Glad to see Scarlett up there so high.
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DBS
Profile Joined July 2012
515 Posts
June 10 2013 05:03 GMT
#26
On June 10 2013 12:16 dsousa wrote:
These are WAY off... but since the foreign scene is basically irrelevant it doesn't matter.

I've never even heard of Dayshi and Bunny, how they are better than Suppy, Kane and Huk I have no idea.

Goswser top in USA? If you say so. When we get to see these guys they are all exiting early rounds from tournements anyways.


Huk is entirely irrelevant at this point. Basically seems to only lose from what i can tell. i can't think of his most recent high finish in a major tourny. The only thing i can think of Kane doing is winning shoutcraft america, which isn't exactly a big deal. On the other hand Bunny is in EU premier league and has been consitently good in the short time he has been around, he's even beaten quite a few koreans and can take maps of most of them. Dayshi was also in EU premier league and he all killed quantic's all korean lineup in the acer teamstory cup.

I do agree that suppy needs to be there, he is very strong.

Also goswser is really strong, i would probably rank suppy slightly above him but not by much
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Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
June 10 2013 05:19 GMT
#27
Lucifron definitely deserves first place.
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2475 Posts
June 10 2013 05:21 GMT
#28
TLO just got top 12 in the WCS finals which is the best of the best and he's just barely cracking Top 8 in your foreigner ranks?

Really? He's top 3, especially recently for sure.
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tabeatz
Profile Joined October 2012
United States83 Posts
June 10 2013 05:41 GMT
#29
I'd put Mana higher on the list. He's definitely top 10. He carried Mouz through the early stages of ATC.
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tabeatz
Profile Joined October 2012
United States83 Posts
June 10 2013 05:46 GMT
#30
Also, while I love Thorzain, there are several people below him who I think to be in far better shape currently.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 05:56:49
June 10 2013 05:51 GMT
#31
I agree with your top 3 after that I start to completely disagree.

Grubby is way too low, Suppy got completely snubbed and many other players like Dayshi and Happy are way too high.

It seems to me like you put a lot more weight on European success (like for example that you've completely snubbed Shoutcraft America) than anything else when comparing these foreign players but I suppose that might make sense since we haven't had a proper MLG open bracket in a while. I suppose we'll have to wait for that to change.
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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3815 Posts
June 10 2013 09:55 GMT
#32
The reason Bunny is so high seems to mainly be due to Aligulac ranking, which you can't really blame Diabolus for

Overall I agree with this ranking. GJ as always.
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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3815 Posts
June 10 2013 09:57 GMT
#33
On June 10 2013 12:16 dsousa wrote:
These are WAY off... but since the foreign scene is basically irrelevant it doesn't matter.

I've never even heard of Dayshi and Bunny, how they are better than Suppy, Kane and Huk I have no idea.

Goswser top in USA? If you say so. When we get to see these guys they are all exiting early rounds from tournements anyways.

Probably because you only follow the AM scene or generally isn't aware of the entire scene, since both Bunny and Dayshi was in WCS EU Premier and especially Dayshi has upped his game A LOT in the past couple of weeks.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 12:46:37
June 10 2013 12:46 GMT
#34
well, suppy is in my 30-35s, he had a great run at wcs NA for sure. Kane did a very good job at the Shoutcraft NA tournament.

The problem is: i dont really see them being stronger than the other guys that acutally made the top 30. yes, you could make a point for them being in the 25-30s for sure, just as for strelok (who did good at wcs EU), you cant do them all justice.
Also, alligulac has then pretty low.

Same goes for TLO and Dimaga - i both ranked them higher than the ranking shows, but alligulac has them on 14 (TLO) and 50-60 (Dimaga)


Bunny and Dayshi are tearing it up, especially Dayshi -owns- koreans on a regular basis in the ATC (which is online ofc, but he showed promising stuff offline as well (numerical cup)).


thanks for all the feedback, will keep going obviously
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DBS
Profile Joined July 2012
515 Posts
June 10 2013 13:44 GMT
#35
On June 10 2013 12:16 dsousa wrote:
These are WAY off... but since the foreign scene is basically irrelevant it doesn't matter.

I've never even heard of Dayshi and Bunny, how they are better than Suppy, Kane and Huk I have no idea.

Goswser top in USA? If you say so. When we get to see these guys they are all exiting early rounds from tournements anyways.


Huk is entirely irrelevant at this point. Basically seems to only lose from what i can tell. i can't think of his most recent high finish in a major tourny. The only thing i can think of Kane doing is winning shoutcraft america, which isn't exactly a big deal. On the other hand Bunny is in EU premier league and has been consitently good in the short time he has been around, he's even beaten quite a few koreans and can take maps of most of them. Dayshi was also in EU premier league and he all killed quantic's all korean lineup in the acer teamstory cup.

I do agree that suppy needs to be there, he is very strong.

Also goswser is really strong, i would probably rank suppy slightly above him but not by much
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HaRuHi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1220 Posts
June 10 2013 14:00 GMT
#36
Had a good laugh seeing ToD on spot number 30.

Are Chinese, taiwanese not foreign enough? :<
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 17:57:19
June 10 2013 17:45 GMT
#37
On June 10 2013 23:00 HaRuHi wrote:
Had a good laugh seeing ToD on spot number 30.

Are Chinese, taiwanese not foreign enough? :<


ToD reached premier division in europe this season. He plays better starcraft than he probably ever did.

And i stated several times why chinese and taiwanese players are not part of my list: its hard enough to judge each and every performance for "western" players, i cant possibly call how good Jim, Sen or MacSed are compared to the westerners - could you?


Btw: I'm serching for someone with enough time and knowledge about the foreign scene to be able to make his own ranking every month (1-30, ranks 30-40, ranks 40-50).
This person would PM me his ranking (also excluding chinese/taiwanese) @TL once i ask for it (within a week or so). This way, i would have another opinion, and do something like 50% = my ranking, 25% = his ranking, 25% = alligulac rakings.

Would anyone be interested in that? If so, PM me! #forabetterranking
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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
June 10 2013 18:11 GMT
#38
It'd be nice if you also posted your own ranking (in a spoiler tag maybe) in addition to your hybrid ranking. Good stuff though; I'm impressed by your dedication to posting this list every month
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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
June 10 2013 18:42 GMT
#39
goswser is apparently still very polarizing, so is DeMusliM.

Good stuff
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
June 10 2013 19:25 GMT
#40
Well, these are your personal opinions but in reality they are mostly off
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