EPTDesigning TL.net: Iterating not Inventing - Page 2
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Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
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HarbingerOfDoom
United States508 Posts
On June 04 2013 12:21 Piledriver wrote: I don't think he's talking about horizontal scrolling. If you're reading a thread and scroll all the way down to the end of the thread, the sidebars will be hidden, and you need to scroll back up to navigate to a different thread or section. Edit: Sorry for the double post. I'll assume you mean vertical scrollbar, I was assuming his sidebar extended past the vertical space viewable on his monitor. But if you want to go with that...then home + click on the sidebar, still only two clicks. Or hold middle mouse/move mouse to top of screen and then release middle mouse and click on sidebar. Slightly more complex two clicks, but still only two clicks. Or click and drag scrollbar up and click on sidebar. | ||
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deo1
United States199 Posts
At any rate, removing gradients and shadows alone would be enough to be considered a major improvement I think. | ||
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Ichabod
United States1659 Posts
(I think a poll would reflect TL users' views on this. Whenever I go to other websites, I am aghast at how difficult they are to navigate/follow compared to TL.) I like some of your thread ideas though, thanks for the mock-ups. Edit: Going down for maintenance for an hour today sometime "soon." Left Sidebar, I fear for you!!!! | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
On June 04 2013 12:37 Kiante wrote: i would move to gosugamers if they moved the left sidebar I second this. No one can take that right from us! | ||
Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On June 04 2013 08:34 Waxangel wrote: consider the response we got to moving 'home,' now reconsider removing the left sidebar  personally I could live without it, but I don't think the TL users would let us live if we removed it I would die if the left sidebar was removed. it's connected to my life force | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
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Aeropunk
Australia255 Posts
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Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
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TheRidd
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FlyingBeer
United States262 Posts
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Deleted User 135096
3624 Posts
On June 04 2013 12:18 Piledriver wrote:+ Show Spoiler + I used photoshop to lay things out for me. I actually wondered about setting up a system that tracked user patterns in terms of clicks (which url links/buttons are used the most and how) and what that would yield. I'd certainly be curious of what is more trafficked as you're right my intuition or gut feelings could be way off from the general user base. well i guess they are to an extent if you look at the forum concerns of others already. The mockups look great. What tools did you use to do them? That being said however, when I decided to make a mock image up I started to think about how TL could further go down this road of simplification and making their user experience more clean, concise, and more enjoyable overall, These are good goals for a simple graphical redesign, but from a UX/Interaction Design/Usability perspective, I think these are really vague goals. I usually try to create more well defined and measurable goals to which I can assign some kind of metric, and usually you can create these goals by looking at user data and analysis (which can be hard if you're just doing a conceptual exercise). An easier way to do this might be to get yourself and couple of friends (who are TL users) together in a room/skype chat and try to find their patterns of usage (and possible problems), and try to come up with goals which address these use cases. I guess what I'm trying to say is, your design looks good, but I don't really know if it achieves the goals of being more usable (it very well might be more usable than the existing design, we just have no way of evaluating since you don't have a well defined list of goals). Also regarding fonts : I absolutely love Lato , and use it for a lot of my designs. Sample page (not my design)  On June 04 2013 17:23 FlyingBeer wrote: That I feel would be a worse option as it partially ties into the news/events concept of the front page, and you lose the immediacy of access to this info by doing this. Many times i've come to the site to say "whats going on?" and oh "wcs EU is on, or SSL finals is on!" and then proceed to tune in because its immediately in my vision.Love the new look. Don't use the left side-bar, so don't need it, but to keep Plexa from going Scottish on you... maybe you could get rid of the right side-bar instead? Just replace all those boxes with a row of BFBs (big fucking buttons) to click on at the top of the page to make it really obvious that people should check out the events, live streams, liquipedia, and TLPD. You might also consider adding the events or the live streams below spotlight if people are super attached to either. On June 04 2013 12:51 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:+ Show Spoiler + One issue I could see here is that you have customized your left sidebar so that you only see 4 forums in total (and they fit in your screen entirely). What about others who have more than this enabled? I have 7 forums enabled in the sidebar as I do traffic sc2, dota2, bw, and blogs. What about me? I need three actions many times to get to the thread I end up on. It's just a thought on oter peoples preferences, or the defaults, though I do use home/end on my kb a lot to get top to bottom quite often.On June 04 2013 12:21 Piledriver wrote: I don't think he's talking about horizontal scrolling. If you're reading a thread and scroll all the way down to the end of the thread, the sidebars will be hidden, and you need to scroll back up to navigate to a different thread or section. Edit: Sorry for the double post. I'll assume you mean vertical scrollbar, I was assuming his sidebar extended past the vertical space viewable on his monitor. But if you want to go with that...then home + click on the sidebar, still only two clicks. Or hold middle mouse/move mouse to top of screen and then release middle mouse and click on sidebar. Slightly more complex two clicks, but still only two clicks. Or click and drag scrollbar up and click on sidebar. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
I could live without the left side-bar. As long as the right one with streams remain (having viewers is pretty nifty), it's all good. I think, if you don't want people to complain (I'm not; though I really like the current layout, the layouts showed here are really, really good too), you need to give them the option to go back to what they're used to. Though maybe that's going overboard with customization. I dunno, but I really like some of the changes proposed here. | ||
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Grettin
42417 Posts
On June 04 2013 13:40 docvoc wrote: I second this. No one can take that right from us! I join with you guys! | ||
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YourGoodFriend
United States2197 Posts
On June 04 2013 13:40 docvoc wrote: I second this. No one can take that right from us! You mean that left from us  I really like the top bar suggestion I also like the rest of the idea (left sidebar and all) but I understand that for a majority of TL user's that would be an outrage. I think it was a really good exercise for you to do this and as a web developer I can appreciate the thought behind this and I am so glad you included your thoughts about why you came to that conclusion and how (specifically the forum drop down because my first thought was WHAT YOU WANT TO HAVE A DROPDOWN THAT IS HALF A PAGE?????? but then as I thought about it and looked at it it grew on me. Also a thought to add to your idea would be to allow the user to "deslect" forum sections so that they wouldnt show up in the dropdown Over all very cool man | ||
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MasterReY
Germany2708 Posts
Nice troll^^ | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
I love TL.net but it is seriously one of the most ugly websites I use. | ||
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Chef
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It's a community driven site, imo. The news is superfluous to the reason people use this site. With that in mind, your changes definitely don't reflect the way people use it. | ||
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Samynix
Norway4 Posts
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KoRStarvid
Sweden767 Posts
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