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A few thoughts on posting habits.

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Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
May 17 2013 21:16 GMT
#1
Hey there,

with the following I want to give you a little food for thoughts about posting in general and why you should probably reduce your post count / length .

Please note that with this blog I am not trying to make myself look like a good poster as I more than often do not follow my own advice.

First, let's start off with rating different types of comments/ posts seperated by their content.
Think about posts in these categories and how you react to them. This will give you good advice on how other people will react to your posts.

1) Content: Information

1a) DONT: Long post. Lots of information
- In most cases, these will simply be skipped by the reader
- Like in business: People do not have the time and patience to read through a thousand paragraphs and filter out the important bit. In case somebody is really that interested in information on that specific topic, he will take the time to do research himself.
- Try to use simple language. Using difficult terms will not make you look smart, because really smart people can explain difficult things in easy language. Also: not everybody is fluent in the English language. Show some respect for those with limited skills who still try to communicate.

1b) DO: Short post. Few informations.
- Example: You watch a Youtube video of a Dota2 game. Which type of comment is often times upvoted? The ones that state when the draft starts and when the game starts. Pretty much a perfect example of a good "information post":
- Catchwords instead of run-on sentences.
- Containing information the reader wants to see instead of those the poster wants to get rid off.

2) Content: Opinion

A vast majority of all comments on the internet are people posting their opinion. Wether they were asked to do so, or not.
This makes a huge difference.

Imagine a caster feedback thread: Of course in this szenario the person who started it wants to hear your opinion. In other words: Your opinion is the information he needs. Post a useful informative comment, following the guidelines in 1b).

In most cases, however, no on asked you to write your opinion. And frankly, that's because in those cases no one cares.
Let's look at the reactions your opinion can arouse:
a) None.
b) Sombody agrees: I also like this warm fuzzy feeling. Nevertheless, this adds nothing useful to the conversation.
c) Somebody disagrees: As you know, though, nothing you can say will make him change his opinion. Keyword: Arguing on the internet.
Note: In my experience the chances of discussions being good/productive increase, when the number of people participating decreases. Discuss in private chats, if you really are interested in what the other has to say.

-> Apply in 19/20 cases: You posting your opinion has no impact on anything. It doesn't change anything. Therefore, save yourself the effort. You really should have better things to do. How much time have we all already wasted with useless posting?

3) Humour
The internet is full of people trying very hard to be witty and funny. Every twitterpost, every facebook status, every news article is followed by a swarm of people trying to be funniest comment clown of them all. For every successful one, of course followed by a shipload of encouraging LoL!s, there are 99 attempts, that just weren't. Now I am not saying that jokes are bad, not at all. But because there are so many attempts, you just get used to them and can't even really laugh about the few that truly were funny. That is the reason why no matter at how many funny pictures you see, you close to never really laugh. Your brain has just gotten used to this internet humour, which in my opinion, really is a shame. In this case, less really is more. We all can contribute to comments/ forums being more entertaining by decreasing our attempts at being funny drastically.

4) The shitstorms
I don't think I have to explain why these are useless.



The reason why a lot of companies have started to leave social media and a lot more will in the future: You cannot have any real conversations/ benefits in this online community because all comment sections / forums are constantly flooded with posters trying to get attention.

So, the conclusion is pretty simple and not new at all:
Post less and when you post, make it as useful as you can( = think).

+ Show Spoiler +
Why ,then, did I post this blog?


***
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
May 17 2013 21:36 GMT
#2
Too long, too much information.

Writing down your opinion often helps you refine your opinion and reflect on your reasoning. Even if nobody cares about your post, it was worth it. Well, at least if your opinion isn't something stupid.

If only a single person laughs about a funny post (and even if that person is you), it's worth it.

Bottom line: Be selfish without hurting others.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18835 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 22:05:54
May 17 2013 22:03 GMT
#3
If you go into a thread on economics, politics, philosophy, or any of the heady sciences expecting short answers complete with small and simple words, you've stumbled into the wrong thread. It is precisely the belief that everything can be summed simply in sub-200 character statements that eats away at the usefulness of the Internet.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
May 18 2013 02:59 GMT
#4
I guess Failsafe didn't get the memo. + Show Spoiler +
I know, I know...trying to be funny
Don't hate the player, hate the game
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10343 Posts
May 18 2013 03:08 GMT
#5
On May 18 2013 07:03 farvacola wrote:
If you go into a thread on economics, politics, philosophy, or any of the heady sciences expecting short answers complete with small and simple words, you've stumbled into the wrong thread. It is precisely the belief that everything can be summed simply in sub-200 character statements that eats away at the usefulness of the Internet.

Whatever, farva

Trust me: contentless hit-and-run snarky one liners are the REAL key to a meaningful discussion.

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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 11:44:01
May 18 2013 11:14 GMT
#6
My purpose for posting is not to provide information. I'm not paid to be anybody's content producer and I do not feel a sense of obligation for my post to be useful to or appreciated by other people. Most of the times, it's a case of wanting to say something and then proceeding to type it (as long as it is allowed by whatever rules are in place).

Posting doesn't require a lot of effort. It is also moderately satisfying to say something you want other people to read and/or hear, so there's at least that in terms of payoff for the effort and time invested. Refraining from posting does not save time - people will just find different ways of procrastinating during work or study hours, and waste time on something equally unproductive. Probably even more so.

Finally, it is not impossible to change somebody's opinion. My opinion on many things has changed after reading other people's take on the subject, and I don't think I'm unique in that regard. Whether people admit to changing opinion or not is a different matter though.

PS. Companies never used social networks to have "real conversations" with people to begin with, but for promotion and advertising. Mature discussion about their products might just be the last thing they want people to have exposure to, while I'm pretty sure they are more than happy to see the armies of fanboys and haters going off at each other, as useless as the content of their "discussions" might be.
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 15:31:58
May 18 2013 15:31 GMT
#7
On May 18 2013 06:16 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
4) The shitstorms
I don't think I have to explain why these are useless.


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On May 18 2013 06:16 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
In most cases, however, no on asked you to write your opinion. And frankly, that's because in those cases no one cares.
Let's look at the reactions your opinion can arouse:
a) None.
b) Sombody agrees: I also like this warm fuzzy feeling. Nevertheless, this adds nothing useful to the conversation.
c) Somebody disagrees: As you know, though, nothing you can say will make him change his opinion. Keyword: Arguing on the internet.


d) you make some good point and someone may rethink his opinion.
If you have an opinion supported by strong and sound arguments, it's always good to throw them out, to see if either :
-pretty much evryone agree
-someone makes a sound argument against this
In both case it's all good

And on TL you can actually have pretty decent disscussion (when you stay away from the stinky threads ), as the bad posters are regulary banned.
Juanald you're my hero I miss you -> best troll ever on TL <3
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