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Reached Masters - But where do I go from here?

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Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
April 18 2013 04:12 GMT
#1
So, after a HELL of a long time striving to reach Masters, yesterday I finally got there.

It took me about three hours to realise that I no longer had any idea where to go from here.

Ever since I've had SC2, I've always had a goal, generally reaching the next league. But that's not really an option any more. Striving for GM is just too far away, and I honestly don't think I'm EVER going to get there, whereas I always thought I might be capable of hitting Masters someday. I enjoy SC2 for it's own sake, but for some reason I enjoy it significantly more when I have a goal I'm working towards.

So the question is, what should I set as my goal from here? I live in Australia, so trying for KR Masters could be an option. I'm guessing that the bottom of KR Masters is something like NA mid-masters, which is a good goal. (But I can't quantify "mid-masters", so I can't set that as a goal, hence the KR idea.)

Any other ideas for a goal? Ideally, the goal would be quantifiable. There should be absolutely no doubt that I've gotten there or not, like "Reach NA Masters" was, whereas "Learn style X" isn't. And I want it to be challenging, but not too challenging. It should be beyond my current abilities, so that I have to improve in order to get there, but it shouldn't be ridiculously beyond them like Grandmaster is.

Thanks for any ideas you guys come up with, and thanks for reading!

<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 18 2013 04:22 GMT
#2
get like rank 1-2 in your masters div

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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10626 Posts
April 18 2013 04:25 GMT
#3
fk it baylife go for GM :D
high rank on masters is good too
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CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
April 18 2013 04:26 GMT
#4
Try top 8 in your division, then go for top 500 on your server. This should be enough for a long time.
Antimatterz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1010 Posts
April 18 2013 04:51 GMT
#5
I got top 400 in US last year (just barely) and I'm still decently proud of that. Some people ask me if I play SC at school and I can tell them that, and even if they don't play video games they can understand the effort I put into reaching that goal.
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
April 18 2013 05:30 GMT
#6
Go for something you'd be proud to tell others!
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
April 18 2013 05:53 GMT
#7
Grats yo. I remember when my goal was C- all those years ago ;D
run.at.me
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia550 Posts
April 18 2013 05:57 GMT
#8
Stop playing as much, try a new race. As soon as I got to masters, I stopped caring. Thn I tried Zerg and got to masters in 3 weeks (after just playing it in 4v4's).

If you're like me, once you hit masters the point of playing 1v1's 'competitively' kind of becomes lost (I'm also goal driven). However, if you feel you quite haven't achieved what you wanted to, aim for top 8 for sho
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
April 18 2013 06:00 GMT
#9
Get to KR Masters. I'm in NA Masters and I'm currently having the crap beat out of me by high diamond dudes on the KR ladder.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 18 2013 06:07 GMT
#10
On April 18 2013 15:00 Clazziquai10 wrote:
Get to KR Masters. I'm in NA Masters and I'm currently having the crap beat out of me by high diamond dudes on the KR ladder.


haha I remember that experience. I remember playing on korean server for my first time (this was back when GM just came out). I was GM on NA and I got to masters easily but I still lost quiet a bit to high diamond players. Boy was that shocking
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Ikidomari
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia485 Posts
April 18 2013 06:41 GMT
#11
I'm going to assume you got masters on NA, because most aussies i know play on NA. maybe you should swap back to SEA, enjoy the lower ping, and get SEA GM
SEA GM seems like a bit of a joke to me, compared to other region's GM leagues, but it's still decently higher than low masters on another server
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Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 07:02:44
April 18 2013 07:02 GMT
#12
On April 18 2013 13:26 CecilSunkure wrote:
Try top 8 in your division, then go for top 500 on your server. This should be enough for a long time.


Jup, going from bronze to master was way easier than say master-->top 300.
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
April 18 2013 07:43 GMT
#13
On April 18 2013 15:41 Ikidomari wrote:
I'm going to assume you got masters on NA, because most aussies i know play on NA. maybe you should swap back to SEA, enjoy the lower ping, and get SEA GM
SEA GM seems like a bit of a joke to me, compared to other region's GM leagues, but it's still decently higher than low masters on another server


Haha I agree with you; getting to SEA GM is one of my next goals as well, aside from getting to KR Masters
Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
April 18 2013 07:49 GMT
#14
Wouldn't it take ages to find games in SEA, due to the low amount of people playing at the Masters+ level?
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
April 18 2013 08:08 GMT
#15
It's really not that bad for finding games
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Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
April 18 2013 08:20 GMT
#16
Hmm, okay. I guess I have a few options then
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
April 18 2013 08:31 GMT
#17
get masters with two races \ o /
then get gm with two races \ o / !
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
April 18 2013 09:25 GMT
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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
April 18 2013 10:20 GMT
#19
Get to rank 1 in your division and keep it. When you are always rank 1 in your division, then GM won't be so far away.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Thor.Rush
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden702 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 11:16:24
April 18 2013 11:15 GMT
#20
Play to improve and have fun. That's all. You don't need a new league to strive for and make you feel good. Getting to high masters from low masters is like going from silver to diamond.
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