• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:04
CET 23:04
KST 07:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy4ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13
Community News
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool18Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win32026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains18
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Serral: 24’ EWC form was hurt by military service Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?
Tourneys
2026 KungFu Cup Announcement [GSL CK] #2: Team Classic vs. Team Solar [GSL CK] #1: Team Maru vs. Team herO RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever
Brood War
General
JaeDong's form before ASL Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion BSL Season 22
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Mexico's Drug War Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1816 users

Enemy Gate Is Down

Blogs > hoby2000
Post a Reply
hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
April 06 2013 15:52 GMT
#1
Greetings,

I have been playing Starcraft 2 a lot lately. I'm looking for other people to play with. To make this more organized, I've started a clan named "Enemy Gate Is Down" on US SC2 Battle.net. I'm only ranked platinum, but I'm getting better, and want to find others who want to get better.

The name of the clan is from the book "Ender's Game" in which Ender helps his army understand the battleroom by suggesting the enemy's gate was "down" and not "south" as they had taught themselves to think. This was the beginning of how Ender helped himself and others become military geniuses.

Just reply here or hit me up on battle.net and we can play, and you can join the clan if you want. I really don't care if you do, and I'll practice with you anyway, but it may be easier to be all grouped up together.


WinterMezo.552, US (atm)

***
A lesson without pain is meaningless for nothing can be gained without giving something in return.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24758 Posts
April 06 2013 16:22 GMT
#2
If the gate is down does that mean it is open or closed?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
April 06 2013 16:36 GMT
#3
Does it mean the enemy gate is non-functional so it can be both open and closed?
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
April 06 2013 16:52 GMT
#4
On April 07 2013 01:22 micronesia wrote:
If the gate is down does that mean it is open or closed?


The battle room is in zero-G, attached to a space station. In the battle room, two armies of 40 kids have guns that shoot lazers and freeze opponents suits. If you shoot their elbow, their elbow is frozen. Because of the Zero-G, and the orientation of the battle room itself, when you entered, it felt like to Ender that the enemy's gate was "down" and not "south". This lead him to come up with ideas such as putting your feet in front of you frozen while shooting between your legs to hit as many enemies as possible with you taking much damage yourself.

It's funny that you say that though, because... + Show Spoiler +
In the end of the book, Bean (one of Ender's soldiers while at the space station) while fighting the last REAL battle with the formics, Bean says "The enemy's gate is down" suggesting that the enemy's gate was actually down. It's also a reference to the enemy's gate in the battle room, so it was a pun before the last battle.
A lesson without pain is meaningless for nothing can be gained without giving something in return.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-06 17:02:28
April 06 2013 16:55 GMT
#5
Does that mean the enemy's gate is willing to do the actions that were suggested?

Like this:
"Hey, does the enemy's gate want to come party with us?"
"Totally. The enemy's gate is down."
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24758 Posts
April 06 2013 17:02 GMT
#6
Oh I didn't catch the Ender's Game reference until you mentioned the battle room haha.... guess it's been too many years since I read it.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
April 06 2013 18:59 GMT
#7
Does this mean that the enemy's gate consists of soft, fine, fluffy feathers that form the first covering of a young bird or an insulating layer below the contour feathers of an adult bird?
jjakji fan
hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
April 06 2013 20:07 GMT
#8
I hate all of you guys.
A lesson without pain is meaningless for nothing can be gained without giving something in return.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
April 06 2013 20:19 GMT
#9
If two enemy gates meet each other after a long time. Does one enemy gate say whats up? or whats down?
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 07 2013 00:23 GMT
#10
On April 07 2013 05:19 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
If two enemy gates meet each other after a long time. Does one enemy gate say whats up? or whats down?


This is a tough one, I would guess in polite conversation one gate would say whats down, to which the other gate would know to reply: "The enemy gate". However, it was is never specified what is up, so if a gate were to inquire about that, the conversation could get pretty awkward.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
April 07 2013 05:52 GMT
#11
Wasn't this practically the tagline of the book? Haven't 95% of TLers read it? Haven't I seen half a dozen or more versions of Ender as usernames on this forum?
hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
April 09 2013 16:20 GMT
#12
On April 07 2013 14:52 Ryalnos wrote:
Wasn't this practically the tagline of the book? Haven't 95% of TLers read it? Haven't I seen half a dozen or more versions of Ender as usernames on this forum?


No, it wasn't the tagline of the book. No, in fact, most TLers haven't read it surprisingly. And I've only seen on Ender's Game reference name.
A lesson without pain is meaningless for nothing can be gained without giving something in return.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 56m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 547
JuggernautJason120
PiGStarcraft118
Codebar 21
Livibee 4
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 15885
Horang2 531
Backho 27
IntoTheRainbow 16
NotJumperer 11
Dota 2
monkeys_forever480
League of Legends
JimRising 544
Counter-Strike
byalli411
minikerr1
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe38
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu429
Trikslyr61
Other Games
summit1g6411
FrodaN1864
Beastyqt582
B2W.Neo470
mouzStarbuck207
C9.Mang0122
Artosis47
ViBE7
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream117
Other Games
BasetradeTV76
StarCraft 2
angryscii 19
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 93
• musti20045 10
• Adnapsc2 9
• Reevou 3
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 72
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21435
League of Legends
• TFBlade950
Other Games
• imaqtpie1127
• Scarra1039
• Shiphtur216
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
1h 56m
KCM Race Survival
11h 56m
WardiTV Team League
13h 56m
Big Brain Bouts
18h 56m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 4h
RSL Revival
1d 11h
Maru vs Zoun
Cure vs ByuN
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 16h
BSL
1d 21h
RSL Revival
2 days
herO vs MaxPax
Rogue vs TriGGeR
BSL
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Sharp vs Scan
Rain vs Mong
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Soulkey vs Ample
JyJ vs sSak
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
hero vs YSC
Larva vs Shine
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
WardiTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-18
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.