EPTOn February 06 2013 01:35 Sauwelios wrote:
But sometimes we irrationally act on desires that we know will lead to disappointment or frustration, or sometimes doing the right thing doesn't feel good at all. This means that there can be a plurality of values that we might be motivated by, pleasure being just one of them (and not necessarily the best one). Seriously, look up psychological hedonism!
What if he is very rich and has unlimited access to the drug and really likes taking the drug, spending his entire life doing it? Is this a good life? He surely feels really damn good being on a constant high! And yet he's chained to the drug. I doubt anyone would consider that to be a good life. The point is to show that pleasure is not sufficient for a good life.
But sometimes we irrationally act on desires that we know will lead to disappointment or frustration, or sometimes doing the right thing doesn't feel good at all. This means that there can be a plurality of values that we might be motivated by, pleasure being just one of them (and not necessarily the best one). Seriously, look up psychological hedonism!
What if he is very rich and has unlimited access to the drug and really likes taking the drug, spending his entire life doing it? Is this a good life? He surely feels really damn good being on a constant high! And yet he's chained to the drug. I doubt anyone would consider that to be a good life. The point is to show that pleasure is not sufficient for a good life.
Ok, I will read on it more to see how I feel about the whole thing.
About the drug addict, I would argue that it's the experience he needs to go thru. If he finds it fullfilling for his whole life, then it's the right thing to do for him. I wanna point out that none of us can determine what is 'good' for someone to experience, or what someone is supposed to live like. Many people strive for a 9-5 job, a family, kids and a nice car, and it's like a default version of a 'good life'. Personally (just to point out at least 1 exception) I find it boring, and I find the life so many are living a waste of opportunity.
I have started accepting re-incarnation as something that really makes sense in the last few years, and that drug addict may need to experience one lifetime like that, so then before the 'next round', he may consider, and decide if he wants to experience something new in it. But now I'm probably getting too 'alternative' and abstract for this forum.
@Barrin
I'm too tired to respond to the content of your post, I may do it later, but about the 'you helping me': It's true. One of the reasons I started this topic was because I want to put myself 'out there' more these days. I've been too reserved for most of my life, and this is actually the first time I've spoke this openly and extensively about my interests on TL, and I've been here since 2006 (if you count the banned accounts :p )
On February 06 2013 02:09 obesechicken13 wrote:
Let's do a skype chat random stranger.
edit: added random stranger
Let's do a skype chat random stranger.
edit: added random stranger
my mood changed. I have some of my own things on my mind now... but maybe I'm chickening out? ^^
All I know is that this is interesting to me, and we could easily talk, either today or tommorow or one of these days.
It would help if you have something to talk about, and not just chat for fun with a TLer?
I'm not for small talk and socialisation just for the sake of it.
I'll PM some more.
