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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 06:06:37
February 05 2013 06:41 GMT
#1


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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
February 05 2013 07:27 GMT
#2
You put in as much play time as a progamer?
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 05 2013 07:32 GMT
#3
On February 05 2013 16:27 sob3k wrote:
You put in as much play time as a progamer?

Probably close to it, I just didn't play one game only. I switch games often because I get burnt out on one and then play something else a ton and then switch again.
Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
February 05 2013 07:43 GMT
#4
just a lack of commitment and mental error of why you're playing in the first place.

if you don't have true passion for anything you will never achieve greatness

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Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
February 05 2013 08:07 GMT
#5
On February 05 2013 16:43 Th1rdEye wrote:
just a lack of commitment and mental error of why you're playing in the first place.

if you don't have true passion for anything you will never achieve greatness



I could be the most passionate fucker around about swimming but I will never, ever, ever, in any realm of possibility regardless of how hard or smart or often I train, beat Michael Phelps.

Sometimes you just gotta realize you aren't meant to do some things.
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
February 05 2013 09:06 GMT
#6
On February 05 2013 16:32 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 16:27 sob3k wrote:
You put in as much play time as a progamer?

Probably close to it, I just didn't play one game only. I switch games often because I get burnt out on one and then play something else a ton and then switch again.

Everyone wants to be good at something, but you seem to be greatly underestimating what it takes to be great. If you even switched between games then you have already lost.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
February 05 2013 09:07 GMT
#7
You say you put in a ton of effort but also say your friends played way more LoL games... that doesn't sound like you're putting in the sort of time it takes to be the best. If you game hop whenever you face a little adversity you'll never get to the very top of any of them. Sounds like you're naturally talented but can't commit to working at anything for the long haul, be it school or gaming.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 05 2013 10:29 GMT
#8
In general there is a huge difference between "putting time into something" and "improving at something". Simply putting lots of time into something doesn't mean that this time is spent effectively, especially when it's about something where improving can be hard to measure (think SC vs Go/Chess).
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 11:10:21
February 05 2013 11:02 GMT
#9
You say you want to be a progamer, but you really don't. You want to be really good at games, sure, but thats not what a progamer is, that's just the result. Being a progamer is single mindedly devoting all of your time and effort to achieving excellence in an incredibly specific game. Not just some of it and then something else. All the game, all the time.

From what you have just written you emphatically don't want to be a progamer. You said it yourself: you don't even like games. If you don't like games, you have exactly ZERO chance of becoming a progamer. No, scratch that, you could, if you had a drill sergeant or crazed parental figure whipping your ass 24 hours a day...I'll let you in on a little secret though: You'd be fucking miserable. Being at the elite level in any pursuit is an 8-12 hour a day all the time commitment to train, and maybe .01% the nice thrill of victory. Guess what? EVERYONE likes that part. EVERYONE. You think anyone sane on the fucking planet would honestly not be not-so-into receiving an olympic medal or breaking a world record or winning a world championship....so long as they understood what that achievement stood for? EVERYONE wants to be the best. So you got attached to video games for some reason, it could be anything. Doesn't matter, everyone is chasing the same idea.

But if you don't actually enjoy the games, its irrelevant. You'll never be a progamer. You'll never achieve the concentration that would be necessary to achieve it. Its a good thing too. If you did you'd be working 8-12 hours a day on something you'd hate while sacrificing every other aspect of your life.You can't get that time back. You know how many trophies it takes to wipe out the memory of 8-12 hours a day of misery for 3+ years? You'd be a depressed wreck if you won GSL every Sunday.

You don't want to be a progamer. Keep searching. You do have a dream, the dream is to achieve excellence. Whatever pursuit you choose is merely a means to that end, but you'll never get there unless you love that means just as much as that end.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
U_G_L_Y
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States516 Posts
February 05 2013 14:36 GMT
#10
I used to play basketball for 3-4 hours a day. Drills, actual practice, not just pickup games. By my senior year, I was backup point guard on my teeny private school's rec league team. I have been playing Starcraft since 1998 and am low diamond. It sucks to realize that you are mediocre at what you love, let alone not a pro. As someone who sees the world in black and white, learning to be happy with what I intuitively see as failure is what I hope to learn in this life.

It sucks, man.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
February 05 2013 15:35 GMT
#11
you probably should go get help for your gaming addicting and hopefully they can smack some sense into you about this really dumb progamer idea.
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
February 05 2013 19:48 GMT
#12
this is what a midlife crisis sorta is. you get to a certain age and realise you wasted a part of your very limited and single life. oops. now what?
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LeafMeAlone
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States301 Posts
February 05 2013 20:25 GMT
#13
Sounds to me like you just want to play games in general 24/7, not become a progamer
~_~
Butterednuts
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
February 05 2013 20:32 GMT
#14
On February 05 2013 16:32 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 16:27 sob3k wrote:
You put in as much play time as a progamer?

Probably close to it, I just didn't play one game only. I switch games often because I get burnt out on one and then play something else a ton and then switch again.


So no, then you haven't been putting in 8-10 hours a day for the last many months consecutively. You can't complain about not getting something when you quit after a few weeks.
Chameleons Cast No Shadows
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
February 05 2013 22:13 GMT
#15
I can empathize with the OP.

I wanted to go pro in Taiwan for SC2...
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
bLueSkY)
Profile Joined November 2006
New Zealand88 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 12:19:57
February 06 2013 12:17 GMT
#16
Ok dude seriously, take a step back and really ask yourself.. do you want to play VIDEOGAMES for a LIVING (i.e. sit infront of a computer and click and press keys) and secondly do you actually think that its even a feasible profession? (not an insult I just mean it's unlikely you will actually be able to sustain yourself long term with a career in gaming..)

Life has a lot to offer you aren't missing out on anything. Alot of people use games as a way to escape, which is fine I think it's good to have a hobby that really allows you to get away from it all. But when it gets to the point of playing games excessively I think that's when you may need to consider to re--evaluate your life.
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