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Delphi
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Germany88 Posts
January 18 2013 22:52 GMT
#101
i really liked the first post of cloud which summed up some good points of his last two years
but i advice everyone not to take everything too serious as cloud is for sure a bit frustrated in retrospect about his germany time as it was a disaster gamewise; so i can understand his statements but they are for sure not true the way he stated them and very biased
1Dhalism
Profile Joined June 2012
862 Posts
January 18 2013 23:01 GMT
#102
On January 18 2013 09:42 aTnClouD wrote:

- confidence is the most important trait for anything a person can do;
- selfish people are better at faking a nice personality. This happens because otherwise people would never accept them for who they are;

i think these two also go hand and hand.

arrogance certainly provides a shortcut to confidence.
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 23:25:41
January 18 2013 23:17 GMT
#103
I dont know what gives you the right to judge all those e-sports personalities in such a way. Imo you dont do it in a constructive way but it feels like you are very accusing and condemning people.

So maybe people arent as nice to you as they are to their fans. But does that mean that they dont have sincerely nice characters? I dont think so. You owe your viewers and followers a lot. So why wouldnt you be as nice as possible to them? It would be super ungrateful otherwise. The way you say it, it feels like you are accusing them of hypocrisy.
Just let them do their thing and focus on growing your own success instead of talking bad about the success of other people.

Maybe you dont like certain things they do, but thats no reason to BM someone. Also being so emotional that you constantly have to insult people and reveal their dirty stories is a weakness. I believe that most people have their reasons for their behaviour and i always try to understand everyones point of view to find the best solution for everybody, but you dont try to understand them you just say your opinion and thats the only right way without even considering other approaches. You dont appear very humble when you always search the mistakes somewhere else first and foremost.
I like you most of the times and i think you are a honest guy and a decent player. But i think you got issues with your mindset. I dont think the german players tried to take advantage of your insights without giving anything back. In a szenecast they said its difficult to argue with you because you get over-emotional so you lose your objectiveness and insist very stubbornly on your own point of view. Even Take said once that its hard to help you, because you have some weird reasoning sometimes and then it doesnt really makes any sense to argue with you because you wouldnt listen.

Some of it might be cultural. When youre thinking youre having a good normal italian discussion, germans might think this is way too emotional already and not objective anymore. I think people like hasu and socke are very good at looking at issues without getting emotionally involved which might cloud(theehee) their judgement.

Im really not trying to offend you but I rather want to show you that theres almost always another side of the coin. And it feels like youre just neglecting its existance most of the time.
WikidSik
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada382 Posts
January 18 2013 23:31 GMT
#104
omg...... i didnt even realize u were THE cloud O_O.

can you make more of ur "trademark" blogs
Iv been here for 5.5 years. My other accounts are named "Sonu" and "Dalroti" || I had some more but I cant find them XD || known in sc2 as "Sonu"
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 23:52:35
January 18 2013 23:50 GMT
#105
nvm i kinda failed at reading
beep boop
PooLsharK
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany179 Posts
January 19 2013 00:21 GMT
#106
Pointing fingers all the time and saying "they're fake, bad, dishonest" usually tells me that that person has some issues himself and tries to blame others for his faults. At least that's what i was like when i was a young and insecure boy. But you might just be the one exception in a thousand Cloud. At least i hope so.

[insert Rocky speech]
Dang ol' pretty pretty pizza
Kontrax
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany84 Posts
January 19 2013 00:33 GMT
#107
The thing i don´t understand is why should tlo be fake?
I saw an interview in which TLO himself said that he is sometimes really arrogant and he doesn´t like this side on him and tries to get better.
But why should this make his "be always positive and don´t get angry at other people" phylosopy fake?
He is always friendly when he streams and never BM´s other players.
And i know someone ín this thread that BM´s the shit out of people and complains always when i see him about balance.
And i think people like this should not talk about other people being fake...
MiND.GaMeS
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany218 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 00:52:13
January 19 2013 00:47 GMT
#108
While i enjoyed reading some of the parts of your blog, i really disliked the middle to end of it. The way you put yourself above some of the "fake" persons (thats how you called them) and trash them in a community full of guys who put every single line they read on reddit or even email sponsors is .. lets call it asshole-ish and makes it look even worse than the persons you mentioned.

I respect your choice to speak about ->> your <<- experience with some of the pros but you shouldn't generalize that and make a fact out of it. People communicate and interact with each other based on emotions, experiences and expectations. If a person looks arrogant to you it may be a thing of misinterpretation - like generalizing. A person can look cocky because this person may not like you and may kind of ignore you. Ignoring or don't caring about people is a thing many misinterprete as arrogance because these people look with their asses at you and show you their back instead of their face. At the same time other people can have a totally different experience.

My whole point is that people tell stories about others everywhere on the planet. It's not just a progaming phenomenon as you might already know. And stories tend to become urban legends and at the end are like 1.000 % harsher than the stuff that happened in reality.

I could write hundrets of lines and wouldn't express correctly what i really want to tell you. I dont even know you in person and still i want to give you that advice because you seem to be lost in a cloud of hate, jealousy, reproaching and blaming. And the sad part about it is that it seems like you don't even notice that. I don't know you and yet still all i read in your blog (from a certain point on) is all that. Maybe you notice that on your own but you definitely deactivated your understanding for this in your blog then... Let's be frank here, I don't wanna start hating on you nor do i want to take out my pitchfork. I have no reason for it. I respect every person for the person he/she decides to be and I just wish you the best of luck in the future and at the same time hope you become a better person. Once you reach that point of appreciation that i think every person can reach you will feel a moment of true satisfaction. Overall that will be the moment where you stop to name-call, hate, reproach, blame and showing jealousy. Because from one day to another you won't give a f*ck about certain stuff anymore.

Until then i wish you the best from the bottom of my heart... oh, and thx for the time you took to write this blog. Myself and i'm sure many others really appreciate it.

-See you in HotS-
HerO / MC / Grubby / Rain / Dear / Naniwa // Also make sure to check out my Blog: http://sc2mindgames.com/category/blog/
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
January 19 2013 00:57 GMT
#109
I'm sorry, but I keep seeing "my beautiful ex" in the sidebar, and going "what? featured girl blog? never!"

Just... sayin'....
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
January 19 2013 02:11 GMT
#110
For some reason I always liked reading your statements because I feel like you're one of those truly honest people who says exactly what he feels. I have to say though:

people would do anything to feel important, they can produce the greatest but even the stupidest things as long as they feel they can stand out from the mass, and if they can't they will rather hate somebody to get attention quickly or give more importance and meaning to what they do and say. This applies to every single person.


I might be the exception here. I think its because I lost a lot of my egotistical pride, so now I feel like some battered, nice person that hopes for the best. Oh god I hope no one thinks I'm being self important with this . I think its probably true of a lot of people that have suffered a lot, they probably are too scared to be a problem, and too scared to become important and face criticism and all the problems associated with it. I mean they'll still want to be happy, just not the center of attention
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
January 19 2013 02:30 GMT
#111
its nice to read about someone whos sticking around the scene despite not having the best results previously. I feel like everytime I read one of these blogs its about someone quitting, so this is refreshing. You will be the ONLY protoss player in hots that I will ever cheer for. gl.
I carve marble busts of assassinated world leaders - PM for a quote
zoid
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden36 Posts
January 19 2013 02:43 GMT
#112
On January 19 2013 06:37 nebula. wrote:
ClouD seriously how can you think it's a good idea to just throw stuff like this out there (the TLO things)? Seriously, shit-throwing like this is exactly what this community doesn't need at the moment. Deal with issues like these in private instead of here. It's just plain retarded to think this is a good idea. Loads of people will think bad of TLO now just because you wrote this (even if you don't have anything to back it up with...). You said he didn't deserve getting his reputation ruined. How stupid can someone be? Do you actually think this doesn't hurt TLO's reputation? lol

In all honesty, and I'm not saying this as a hater (I've actually though you've been quite a funny guy from time to time)
--
you should probably focus more on the game than writing a fucking essay about your dick.


Totally agree with this. It is sad how you call yourself a professional and then do things like this. Go ahead, switch to protoss, it's TOTALLY the game that is broken and the reason you can't win. Haha.
Näe
Iron_
Profile Joined April 2010
United States389 Posts
January 19 2013 03:43 GMT
#113
Good luck, it sucks losing one of the only honest Terrans. I've been on the fence about either race switching or game switching for a while now, still undecided. After you start storming Terrans to death, be sure to keep telling the community how bad Terran is for those of us who stayed :D
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
January 19 2013 05:05 GMT
#114
Why the hell is someone who says....:

"TLO: the most fake guy in the scene. He never did anything to me but I disrespect him so much because I know a couple stories that would never make me feel anything close to respect for him as a person. He is also extremely arrogant in real life and disliked by most people. Again I have no real grudge against him and he really did nothing to me but these kind of fake people are the ones I detest the most. He's not the only one though, there's some others who are like this.
White-Ra: as I said above, very cool guy. Nothing else to say really, his company is very enjoyable and he is very happy to share with other people, which is one of the qualities I appreciate the most in a person."

Spotlighted?????
wtf/bad call.
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
January 19 2013 05:19 GMT
#115
On January 19 2013 14:05 tili wrote:
Why the hell is someone who says....:

"TLO: the most fake guy in the scene. He never did anything to me but I disrespect him so much because I know a couple stories that would never make me feel anything close to respect for him as a person. He is also extremely arrogant in real life and disliked by most people. Again I have no real grudge against him and he really did nothing to me but these kind of fake people are the ones I detest the most. He's not the only one though, there's some others who are like this.
White-Ra: as I said above, very cool guy. Nothing else to say really, his company is very enjoyable and he is very happy to share with other people, which is one of the qualities I appreciate the most in a person."

Spotlighted?????
wtf/bad call.

dude this was a reply not the blog.....friggin angry fanboyz
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 19 2013 08:54 GMT
#116
On January 19 2013 14:05 tili wrote:
Why the hell is someone who says....:

"TLO: the most fake guy in the scene. He never did anything to me but I disrespect him so much because I know a couple stories that would never make me feel anything close to respect for him as a person. He is also extremely arrogant in real life and disliked by most people. Again I have no real grudge against him and he really did nothing to me but these kind of fake people are the ones I detest the most. He's not the only one though, there's some others who are like this.
White-Ra: as I said above, very cool guy. Nothing else to say really, his company is very enjoyable and he is very happy to share with other people, which is one of the qualities I appreciate the most in a person."

Spotlighted?????
wtf/bad call.


You have something against White-Ra being a cool guy? Idiot...
Kyrillion
Profile Joined August 2011
Russian Federation748 Posts
January 19 2013 09:06 GMT
#117
Maybe he's heard some "stories" about White-ra...
If you seek well, you shall find.
raser
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway301 Posts
January 19 2013 09:19 GMT
#118
yet another blog from cloud to keep himself in the spotlight..
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
January 19 2013 09:37 GMT
#119
fuck ht drops
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
E.L.V.I.S
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium458 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 10:07:18
January 19 2013 10:06 GMT
#120
On January 19 2013 00:46 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 00:38 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
Question, would you say any human being could become pro with just enough practise, or is talent a huge factor?

Look at me. I am gifted with an incredible memory, a great hand coordination and I'm really fast with mouse and keyboard, and yet I still lose in tournaments to players who don't have any of these qualities but just put an incredible amount of passion and hard work into what they do. Anybody can be successful, not having talent is just an excuse for the losers.


muahahah I agree so much about the last sentence, because this has been my first excuse for being a noob (later I started to blame balance so hard).
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