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Renfield
Profile Joined August 2011
United States62 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-02 15:14:09
January 02 2013 15:13 GMT
#61
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
January 02 2013 16:17 GMT
#62
Nicely written. Happy new year!
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
January 02 2013 20:28 GMT
#63
On January 01 2013 14:30 iNcontroL wrote:
Separate we are weaker, together we are STRONK.


YEAHH!! STRONK ALL THE WAY!!!
xD
My religion is Starcraft
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2056 Posts
January 02 2013 20:57 GMT
#64
^

I don't know if I'm being captain obvious here but does anyone else feel this is a jab at Apollo? He pronounces the word with a K.
tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
January 02 2013 22:09 GMT
#65
Nice work, I much more prefer reading my SC2 stuff when it's written in a positive tone like you have done here. I want you to consider though, you said you are not a pure player... do you think it's better right now for you to be a pure player or a pure SC2 personality?
Knowing is half the battle... the other half is lasers.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 03 2013 05:15 GMT
#66
Time for some hard words: LoL / DotA2 players are not as refined as SC2 players. Their streams are more casual, their sponsorship representation/love is taken less seriously/not cared for, their players have fewer twitter followers because they don't really care to work on advertising themselves or their media and in general the gaming industry finds them harder to deal with for these reasons but also quite frankly because they are less mature. BOOM.. now a lot of people will read this and think of 1-2 names that "prove" me wrong or they will take this as a biased generalization that is a subtle jab at a great many people.. I can assure you it isn't. I say these things because I speak on a regular basis with your Sundances, Ohlens and the many other people that run tourneys, sponsor players and fund our very livelihood.. and the consensus on this is pretty damn consistent. Now I say this on my blog that is mostly about SC2/on TL because it ties into my point: Show them. SC2 has the most committed and loyal community in gaming. We pay to support those we love. We follow on twitter those we care about and we read on multiple forums stories about our players, fans, leaders etc etc. We are the result of 15 years of gaming taken very serious and for most of those years played at a level worthy of television broadcast. Our players rep sponsors very well (some better than others) and money comes into our game/community because it (for the most part) can be trusted to be given a fair chance at doing something. I very much so expect people to take issue with what I say in this portion of the blog but trust me.. when compared to the LoLs, Dota, CoD, Halo etc... SC2 is head and shoulders better at this.


For goodness sake. I really wish you could hear yourself sometime Geoff. You really haven't changed since I met you, lol.
MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
January 03 2013 08:28 GMT
#67
You're good for e-Sports man, and growing more mature!
iamtheoneneo
Profile Joined April 2011
144 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 10:01:46
January 03 2013 09:54 GMT
#68
There are a multitude of problems with the OPs post - mainly that hes still completely in love with himself.
I don't actually hate Incontrol, I do have a reasonable level of respect for him (as much as anyone could have for someone that makes a living playing a video game), but the blog really goes off the wall when it starts to go into 'SC2 is the best' territory.

His discussion on maturity is so full of holes its pretty obscene to even bring it up - The OP just has to look at some of his decisions over the past year to understand that the type of game you play does not define maturity levels.

Their are many immature people in LoL, Dota2, CSS, SC2 and any game under the planet, equally as much as mature people. I would say in 2012 the level of maturity that many SC2 teams have shown when 'drama' occurs is completely lacking compared to that of LoL, Dota 2 teams for example. Just look at the cases of unpaid players, players removed from teams with general disregard for any contractual agreements etc etc.

You are very much in a privileged position , you do work for what many will say is THE top team in SC2 and maybe even e-sports at present (depending on how you would define a top team) , and with that I feel like you are looking at the scene in general with rose tinted glasses.

Everyone may profess on how great SC2 is , but when they themselves don't even play the game anymore its a bit of a 'pot kettle black' attitude. So great that tens of thousands just dropped the game because they got bored, felt cheated, game changed so much since first release, etc? people will say that you don't necessarily have to play the game to enjoy watching it, which is all well and good but Blizzard (certainly under Activision's command) aren't going to be releasing many future SC games if the sales are down the pan - the buck will eventually have to stop somewhere.

It remains to be seen what the take up of HOTS will be - the release has dragged and with that so has the player base, with only time telling if they will return. I will probably be picking up the game, providing it actually offers something new but personally from the current previews it doesn't really look like they have added an awful lot outside of the campaign to justify that team of 70+ developers.

On a more positive note , its great that your looking to cast more - I find you one of the more enjoyable casters out there , I wouldn't necessarily say that researching players is going to make you a better caster , I feel if anything it will make you be just another caster drone reeling off the same stats no-one really cares about during the quiet moments. Its clear that your passionate about the scene, so I wish you all the luck for 2013.
Phye
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
21 Posts
January 03 2013 14:05 GMT
#69
Reading ridiculous blogs like this one makes me happy this community is about to die and you'll go back to flipping burgers.

User was temp banned for this post.
http://i.imgur.com/LowEa.jpg
fire_brand
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1123 Posts
January 03 2013 16:51 GMT
#70
Happy New Year Jeff.

I had no problem with your appearance on SOTG. Sure the Avilo thing was stupid and embarrassing, but it happens, and he brought it upon himself. What was he thinking?

As for the destiny thing, the only people that would bother are Destiny's fanboys. That guy has lost all credibility in the sc2 scene and I don't really believe he's at all relevant anymore. It's not that he's stupid, or bad, or anything like that. He's honestly just not a SC2 guy anymore, and no one can say that he is. His knowledge and opinions on sc2 have become tired, dated and redundant. It's time for the community to put him to bed and come to terms with what he is, an entertaining (to some) streamer that plays a bunch of games and is decent at most of them. That does not make everything he says or does important or valid.

You sir, on the other hand, are a treasure to our community. Your opinions may not always be on point, but your hard work, commitment, and wit make everything you say a treat to listen to. You are committed to the scene like few are, even if it isn't in a player role. If anything we need more people like you who are so involved and so passionate about sc2 that sometimes that gets the best of you. What separates you from others is that you learn from your mistakes and are able to have the humility to come back and say you were wrong and that you'll do better. There are far too many egos in the community that just gloss over their mistakes and ignore them to the detriment of themselves and the community.

Keep doing what you were doing Jeff and happy 2013.
Random player, pixel enthusiast, crappy illustrator, offlane/support
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
January 03 2013 17:16 GMT
#71
^geoff not jeff
anyway I love what you do man, looking forward to an awesome 2013
I carve marble busts of assassinated world leaders - PM for a quote
Blind Io
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom56 Posts
January 03 2013 21:01 GMT
#72
Really enjoyed reading this, made me feel all fuzzy about my community and you didn't even mention HotS once
TaeJa GOAT
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
January 03 2013 21:35 GMT
#73
Love you Geoff. You are always very insightful
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
rub1kon
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany9 Posts
January 03 2013 23:23 GMT
#74
On January 01 2013 14:30 iNcontroL wrote:
I was a dick to Destiny on SOTG. He is loud, intelligent and aggressive much like myself.


yeah.
right.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
January 04 2013 00:13 GMT
#75
Happy New Year Geoff
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
January 04 2013 02:29 GMT
#76
On January 03 2013 14:15 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
Time for some hard words: LoL / DotA2 players are not as refined as SC2 players. Their streams are more casual, their sponsorship representation/love is taken less seriously/not cared for, their players have fewer twitter followers because they don't really care to work on advertising themselves or their media and in general the gaming industry finds them harder to deal with for these reasons but also quite frankly because they are less mature. BOOM.. now a lot of people will read this and think of 1-2 names that "prove" me wrong or they will take this as a biased generalization that is a subtle jab at a great many people.. I can assure you it isn't. I say these things because I speak on a regular basis with your Sundances, Ohlens and the many other people that run tourneys, sponsor players and fund our very livelihood.. and the consensus on this is pretty damn consistent. Now I say this on my blog that is mostly about SC2/on TL because it ties into my point: Show them. SC2 has the most committed and loyal community in gaming. We pay to support those we love. We follow on twitter those we care about and we read on multiple forums stories about our players, fans, leaders etc etc. We are the result of 15 years of gaming taken very serious and for most of those years played at a level worthy of television broadcast. Our players rep sponsors very well (some better than others) and money comes into our game/community because it (for the most part) can be trusted to be given a fair chance at doing something. I very much so expect people to take issue with what I say in this portion of the blog but trust me.. when compared to the LoLs, Dota, CoD, Halo etc... SC2 is head and shoulders better at this.


For goodness sake. I really wish you could hear yourself sometime Geoff. You really haven't changed since I met you, lol.


I can hear myself.. what part of what I said are you upset about?
KingDime
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada750 Posts
January 04 2013 02:32 GMT
#77
Hmmm, I always think of dota in terms of teams instead of the individual players. Wonder if that contributes somewhat to lower followers.

Doom Guy
Render
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States249 Posts
January 04 2013 06:07 GMT
#78
Happy New Year friend. ESport fighting!
Rose my color is and white, pretty mouth and green my eyes.
CabelD
Profile Joined November 2010
United States131 Posts
January 04 2013 06:25 GMT
#79
Good luck Geoff, you have always been a huge inspiration to me and I will continue to support you and be a fan.I am very lucky to be mod for your stream, and I hope one day to meet you in person! Thanks for everything!
SecondHand
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States329 Posts
January 04 2013 06:43 GMT
#80
This was inspiring..

<3
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