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Top30 Foreigner Ranking, December 2012 (2) - Page 2

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Fenneth
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia354 Posts
December 28 2012 05:17 GMT
#21
The list looks pretty good to me. I think Kas and Fraer should both be a few spots higher, but overall it jibes pretty well with my opinion. Top 5 looks fine.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 05:27:32
December 28 2012 05:25 GMT
#22
I think this isn't bad but you are severely underestimating huk.


lol @ all the people saying huk should be further down

he's still one of the only foreigners actually beating koreans
shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
December 28 2012 05:31 GMT
#23
Another interesting list. I think most of what's here is more or less okay. I think people may disagree because they think the best player is the one who is making the biggest splash at the moment. (OMG top 3!!!11!) and they completely neglect the players that are consistently getting deep into tournaments, beating Koreans but not having any "loud" results.
You mean I just write stuff here and other people can see it?
decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
December 28 2012 05:32 GMT
#24
On December 28 2012 14:25 travis wrote:
I think this isn't bad but you are severely underestimating huk.


lol @ all the people saying huk should be further down

he's still one of the only foreigners actually beating koreans



Especially in PL.

"Be formless like water"- Bruce Lee
Gatesleeper
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada300 Posts
December 28 2012 05:42 GMT
#25
On December 28 2012 14:04 decado90 wrote:
No problems with the top 5, but the rest of the list is pretty fucked up.

Most egregious are:

Lucifron #7

Thorzain #10

Demuslim # 20


all way too high.

I think a top 15 list would be better.

When you get past the top 15 the players just get lackluster and aren't very good (compared to Koreans) and aren't very relevant to the scene.

Huk? Slivko? way too high as well.

Also, no Goswser on the list is very silly.


Lastly, I'll reiterate how baffled I am by Lucifron at #7.


You say no problem with the top 5, meaning you're okay with Vortix as #3, but you seem to have a huge problem with Lucifron. Why?

Lucifron and Vortix have played each other a lot over the year and they've been nearly evenly matched. Vortix has the edge, and that's why he's #3 and Lucifron is #7. To put Lucifron any lower than top 10 would be wrong.
flakmonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia254 Posts
December 28 2012 06:00 GMT
#26
Ummmm where is sen?? He would be top 10, probably top 5. Top 4 finish at the blizzard world championships.
sambo400
Profile Joined March 2011
United States378 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 06:25:44
December 28 2012 06:20 GMT
#27
I counted 8 Patchzergs, Sen could easily replace any 7 of them, the exception being Vortix

Mark my words, by the next list, Goswser will crack top 25.

Nani should be higher, possibly as high as 2.
decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
December 28 2012 06:29 GMT
#28
On December 28 2012 14:42 Gatesleeper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 14:04 decado90 wrote:
No problems with the top 5, but the rest of the list is pretty fucked up.

Most egregious are:

Lucifron #7

Thorzain #10

Demuslim # 20


all way too high.

I think a top 15 list would be better.

When you get past the top 15 the players just get lackluster and aren't very good (compared to Koreans) and aren't very relevant to the scene.

Huk? Slivko? way too high as well.

Also, no Goswser on the list is very silly.


Lastly, I'll reiterate how baffled I am by Lucifron at #7.


You say no problem with the top 5, meaning you're okay with Vortix as #3, but you seem to have a huge problem with Lucifron. Why?

Lucifron and Vortix have played each other a lot over the year and they've been nearly evenly matched. Vortix has the edge, and that's why he's #3 and Lucifron is #7. To put Lucifron any lower than top 10 would be wrong.


Vortix has smashed his brother and Koreans lately. Lucifron has done nothing
"Be formless like water"- Bruce Lee
gyad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States423 Posts
December 28 2012 06:30 GMT
#29
I feel like Demuslim should be a lot higher. Top 8 of NASL Season 4 is no joke.
Rickyvalle21
Profile Joined July 2012
United States320 Posts
December 28 2012 06:31 GMT
#30
CombatEX deserves a spot in there.
people say practice is perfect but if nothing is perfect whats the point in practicing?
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
December 28 2012 06:35 GMT
#31
Neat list, I love things like this. Thanks for posting!
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
MrGerritSon
Profile Joined December 2012
Denmark1 Post
December 28 2012 06:38 GMT
#32
I agree that Sen might be much better than a lot of the players on the list, but he simply doesn't get the same exposure.
I can only remember seeing him at the Asia and world championships. Really as since he is a very enjoyable Zerg to watch.

The list seems reasonable, but it always hard to make such a list.

And people will always say: "X beat Y in that tournament, X should rank higher!", or "X only played well in one tournament, so overrated!"

IMO I would rank grubby above Naniwa ATM or at least in the near future. Sure I am a Grubby fan but still. That guy just gets better and better!
Moosy
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada396 Posts
December 28 2012 07:59 GMT
#33
Kas underrated? No lan results. Also scarlett and vortix are not overrated.
BlackPanther
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States872 Posts
December 28 2012 08:01 GMT
#34
I think IdrA is probably better than a lot the patch zergs given his performance at WCS but its a fair placement given his shitty 2012 year. Lucifron and Thorzain are way to highly rated.
StatikKhaos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States214 Posts
December 28 2012 08:02 GMT
#35
Gonna get hate,
but grubby is ranked to high, he is, he's not that great anymore, he's definitely not 8
He did good at HSC6 but who'd he beat? MC? he's slumping hard, it seems like he can't beat anyone recently (I still believe in the boss toss), and Maybe bling?
Then (no offense to TLO) in the second game of their set grubby lost a game he basically had won.

Grubby is way over ranked he's been doing worse for a while, and he's sub 50% in all of his matchups on TLPD, and also of his last 40 games (this doesnt have HSC6 though) he's 12 for 40, thats a 30% win rate friends, (with his wins from hsc6 he's still 42%, they're just not on the TLPD player profile yet, with two of those wins coming over heromarine [who the fuck is that])

Grubby needs to be way lower, looking at gameplay and stats he's way overranked
Those Bitches
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
December 28 2012 08:34 GMT
#36
Suppy needs to be a bit higher, at least around 16 if you based it around tournament result in the past month as the most influential factor in your rankings. Him and Moonglade were top 5 foreigners in that event and Moonglade is not even on your list.
LoL: UnKooL and SoloQFiendUnKooL, SC2: UnKooL
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
December 28 2012 08:44 GMT
#37
Good list!I agree,for the most part!Good job!
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
December 28 2012 09:06 GMT
#38
Suppy should be a bit higher imo.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
LesPhoques
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada782 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 09:13:31
December 28 2012 09:13 GMT
#39
Xlord and Socke should much higher on list imo, Demuslim/Idra/ are too high, none of them had any decent results for a while now.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
December 28 2012 09:21 GMT
#40
Solid list, I like it better than the first one.

The only one I am not happy with at all is TLO. Way too high imo, even if I am a fan. I would put im right around XlorD's level maybe below that. Or raise the others from the german scene because TLO is not above Monchi/Hasu/Socke by that much if at all.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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