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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
December 24 2012 06:11 GMT
#1
I just finished about two weeks worth of trudging through the MuvLuv VNs and just want to write down some of my feelings and experience. And man, was it an experience. Going through Extra-Unlimited-Alternative seems like it took countless hours of my life. It felt like it just would never end.

Since this series is about a decade old now I'm not going to bother with the story introductions and whatnot.

Starting with Extra. Firstly I want to say I'm not your regular hyper critical and ocd anime enthusiast. In general I don't really care how overplayed a theme is, how cliched the characters may be, or how 2deep4u the story may or may not be. I can enjoy something thoroughly like EVA but equally enjoy something silly like mitsudomoe.

With Extra, it a pretty ridiculous over the top harem style story which honestly made barely any sense. But I really enjoyed it. There was a strong comedic pull throughout the opening of the VN that hooks you on the characters. It allows you appreciate the characters more easily for when they introduce the drama-romance parts of the story. But its really the comedy that I kept going back for and it didn't disappoint. The story was a bit wonky, but the script, voice acting, and sound effects more than made up for that. Towards the end, the individual routes become more prominent and to be honest I didn't really care for most of them so I skipped them. But these really only take fruit towards the latter half so you don't miss much if you skip them, or don't even bother.

Originally I was actually going to jump straight into Alternative but decided to take the translators advice and play through Extra and Unlimited first, and that was definitely for the best. Well, required is a better word.

I think the transitioning from that stupid, funny, and ridiculous world of Extra into the super serious world of Alternative is a pretty good literary device. I don't know if it was originally planned by the writers, but it really plays on your emotions. the shock of seeing all those characters thrusted into such a dire story. The main character (ie, you) has continuous flashbacks to his "old" peaceful world, devoid of war and tragedy, which only heightens your sense of emotion for all the characters. Unlimited served as a good introduction to the world of Alternative. I say this because of all the crazy shit that happens in Alternative. Unlimited seemed so pacified by comparison. But when I finally got to Alternative, it was an endless rollercoaster of ups and downs. Going through and seeing all the horrors these characters experience, you do become alot like the main character, you just want to go back the light hearted nature of the original Extra story.

The universe was exceptionally crafted, perhaps too much. Amazing thought and detail went into designing the world and the story's events benefited greatly from this. Perhaps a bit too much for some people, but I enjoyed. Mission briefings for example, could well go on for 20, 30 minutes, explaining in excruciating detail as if you were actually there, and even though they would never actually show all of the mission in the following scenes. Part of me wanted to keep going purely to appreciate the detail the writers created for this original world.

I haven't played many VNs but there is no denying MuvLuv is unique among them. I am not at all surprised it is one of the highest rated VNs ever. Personally speaking, being mecha/action/war orientated is a direct draw for me; I could never really get into something more 'normal' like clannad for example.

And now I'm sitting here wondering why in the world they decided to make an anime out of Total Eclipse and not these originals ! :|

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ShiroKaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1082 Posts
December 24 2012 06:18 GMT
#2
Not going to read the majority of your post because I'm currently just about 2/3 of the way through Unlimited, but cool to see VNs getting love on TL. Extra was pretty average and eeeeeeh for 90% of it (except for LIMO VERSUS MISSILES) but I'm actually genuinely enjoying Unlimited so far. If Alternative is half as good as I've heard it is, I can't wait to start it.

Also I can't imagine ANYONE reading this series in any way besides the standard Extra->Unl->Alt. It just doesn't seem like it would really work to skip one. So much lost background and character development...
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ktimekiller
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States690 Posts
December 24 2012 06:43 GMT
#3
I saw the first episode with good hope given the HUGE number of people raving at how awesome it was.

I saw terribly animated poor quality boing and harem and skipped after first episode.
ShiroKaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1082 Posts
December 24 2012 06:44 GMT
#4
On December 24 2012 15:43 ktimekiller wrote:
I saw the first episode with good hope given the HUGE number of people raving at how awesome it was.

I saw terribly animated poor quality boing and harem and skipped after first episode.


Oh you're talking about Total Eclipse, the anime series that just aired. That's not what we're talking about, that's a spinoff.
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Dullahan
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States248 Posts
December 24 2012 06:52 GMT
#5
On December 24 2012 15:43 ktimekiller wrote:
I saw the first episode with good hope given the HUGE number of people raving at how awesome it was.

I saw terribly animated poor quality boing and harem and skipped after first episode.


Agreed the first episode was fairly meh if you're not familiar with the VNs, but I'd suggest at least checking out the 2nd episode before dropping it considering that the 1st episode was pretty much entirely setup for the 2nd ep.



@OP: congrats on finishing the Muv-Luv trilogy :D Who was/were your favorite character(s)?
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
December 24 2012 07:27 GMT
#6
On December 24 2012 15:18 ShiroKaisen wrote:
Also I can't imagine ANYONE reading this series in any way besides the standard Extra->Unl->Alt. It just doesn't seem like it would really work to skip one. So much lost background and character development...


you hear "alternate universe" thrown around so you immediately assume its a separate story using the same characters. so i very nearly screwed myself over!

On December 24 2012 15:52 Dullahan wrote:
@OP: congrats on finishing the Muv-Luv trilogy :D Who was/were your favorite character(s)?


i can rather say which characters i didn't like, that being tama, yoroi, alternative-kouzuki. the first two dont really have any engrossing plots or even notable lines from the scripts ... largely forgettable characters. the latter was one of the best written characters but i didnt enjoy her purely because of the character traits themselves.
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
December 24 2012 07:45 GMT
#7
On December 24 2012 15:11 a176 wrote:
And now I'm sitting here wondering why in the world they decided to make an anime out of Total Eclipse and not these originals ! :|

Because attempting to animate MLA without the other two mediocre parts is hard, if not impossible. And attempting to animate the first two parts is downright suicidal unless the storyboarder is a god.

MLA:TE is more or less an advertisement for the TE VN anyways.
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