EPTIf you don't see any point in life, you might as well end it. Or you just get off your computer, start going out and have a good time.
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Xadar
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If you don't see any point in life, you might as well end it. Or you just get off your computer, start going out and have a good time. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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JonIrenicus
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Captain Peabody
United States3126 Posts
The choice is between being and non-being, between life and death. Non-being cannot rationally be preferred to being, since it does not exist. But that's too simple, of course: the real choice before every person is not whether to exist or not, but whether to behave rationally in accord with being, or to exist while rejecting being and reason. Being is good, and the good is desirable by definition; not to seek it is to behave irrationally. The greatest saints in Christian history have struggled with depression, anxiety, listlessness, and doubt, even to the point of suicidal feelings. Mother Theresa ended her life feeling nothing but the absence of God and of meaning--and yet she endured, and brought happiness to millions, because she loved God. St. Therese of Liseux spent a great deal of her life in a state of profound anxiety and depression, and yet endured and brought joy to millions through her writings. Francis De Sales was one of the most famous counselors and spiritual writers, bringing help and comfort to millions upon millions, and yet suffered from depression throughout his life. G.K. Chesterton suffered from depression and nihilism in his youth, before becoming one of the happiest men in the history of the world. The way they all found was the love of God. But whether you believe in God or not, the rational love of being and the good--a love that is not founded upon feelings and does not consist in feelings, but rather is founded upon reason and consists in the will-- is the only way to happiness. I have struggled with these kinds of questions, fears, and doubts all my life--not due to clinical depression, but rather because of traumatic childhood experiences, psychological problems, and just plain being a naturally intellectual and neurotic person--and this is the only answer I have found. + Show Spoiler [A poem that's helped me] + The gallows in my garden, people say, Is new and neat, and adequately tall. I tie the noose on in a knowing way, As one that knots his necktie for a ball. But just as all the neighbors on the wall, Are drawing a long breath to shout hooray, The strangest whim has seized me, after all: I think I will not hang myself today. Tomorrow is the time I get my pay. My uncle's sword is hanging in the hall. I see a little cloud all pink and grey; Perhaps the rector's mother will not call. I fancy that I heard from Mr. Gall That mushrooms could be cooked another way; I never read the works of Juvenal; I think I will not hang myself today. The world will have another washing day, The decadents decay, the pedants pall: And H.G. Well has found that children play: And Bernard Shaw discovered that they squall. Rationalists are growing rational, And through thick woods one finds a stream astray, So secret that the very sky seems small: I think I will not hang myself today. Envoi Prince, I can hear the Trumpet of Germinal, The Tumbrils toiling up the terrible way, Even today your royal head may fall: I think I will not hang myself today. -A Ballade of Suicide by G.K. Chesterton I realize this is rather rambling and borderline incomprehensible, but I hope, if you read this, that it is in some way helpful for you. God bless you, my good sir, no matter what silly things you do, and know that you will always have at least one fan. I will pray for you. | ||
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jdsowa
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JimSocks
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Aunvilgod
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Aphasie
Norway474 Posts
People often try to make these things matters of philosophy (which it is, I guess). But they often forget the initial proposition, they get caught up in the argument. Yes, theres no point to life. That often gets me down as well, I wonder "why bother?". But there's no point in dying either. Life is a ride, and whether you like it or not, you dont know what its about; all the up & downs, all the experiences etc. That's the funny thing, you cant know untill you're very end. Was it worth or not? I guess we wont know for another 50 years. Blog about your conclusion then. As for now, we just have to stick to it  | ||
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sorrowptoss
Canada1431 Posts
Edit: If there's one way of putting what most people feel when they realise what they live for is mere nothingness, it's that they momentarily become Gilgamesh and have an episode where they realise that things have an end, so why bother with anything in the first place? Quite a powerful moment a person can experience, and I think virtually everyone in the planet has experienced this at least once. | ||
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Djzapz
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OpticalShot
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HereBeDragons
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SnetteL
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On October 10 2012 03:14 OpticalShot wrote: The reason is girl blogs. TEHE I hope you overcome this, Tyler. | ||
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Smancer
United States379 Posts
On October 09 2012 13:31 Liquid`NonY wrote: There is no point to life. If you ask someone "why?", over and over, until the only thing left to explain is the common reason for doing anything at all, for living, for being happy, you will be met with irrationality. No one has ever given a good reason. Motivations get reduced to feelings, not reasons. What is irrational is to eliminate the possibility that feelings are reasons. Feelings certainly add to our experiences. And what we experience is our reality. I think you are making too many assumptions. My reasons are perfectly good. Maybe not for you, and with that what you mean to say is "No one has ever given [me] a good reason. And possibly no one ever can. What you have to do is go out and give yourself a reason. Not bring other people down with you. For me, I had to better myself before I could have a reason. Maybe you should try to do the same. I feel bad for you. You have absolutely nothing. And until you find the motivation to go out and get something, you will be miserable. Work on bettering yourself first. Not for me, not for "fans", not for your family, or close friends, but for YOU. | ||
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Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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Fyrewolf
United States1533 Posts
I have been dealing with depression myself for a very very long time. From my experience, although a big part of depression is often questioning the reason or asking "What's the point?", the biggest waste of time is the depression itself. And even with this realization that depression is even more pointless and reasonless than life, I still can't shake myself out of my own depression. Depression is extremely difficult and there is no easy answer, but the best, and only, thing you can do is pick yourself up and continue forward. Best of luck to you NonY. | ||
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Kasu
United Kingdom345 Posts
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snively
United States1159 Posts
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EnderSword
Canada669 Posts
On October 10 2012 06:08 Kasu wrote: So does depression always have this cyclical, returning nature? Because after a couple of years I just started treatment for mine, and when (if) its gone I really really really don't want it to come back. It's very prone to it, but no, its not always cyclical. Some people will respond very well to medications or treatments and you'll go on just fine. Some people have said it just lifted from them at some point (Sarah Silverman has done a number of interviews to that effect) and they could just feel a difference. But for many others, it will be a more permanent issue that you can manage, but not really 'cure'. | ||
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