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Broken mouse story ; new mouse or not ? :(

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lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 13:15:32
October 03 2012 13:13 GMT
#1
Pretty short and simple blog, mainly because I have no clue about the truth behind the SteelSeries Kinzu or whatever (apparently only I and Fnatic.aLive are the only two players whom I know that actually use it or whatever, at least that I know) regarding the 'hidden features' of it.

Basically my SteelSeries Kinzu just broke, I had it for over a year and a half, I grew to like it a lot, it was my first "competitive" mouse after returning to gaming since SC1 where I used the logitech mini. So the cursor had been on its way out for some time and the dpi/etc kept resetting randomly and often making it really annoying to use it. The feet wore out, and even the trackpads begin to slip off. So yesterday, finally, I woke up and the sensor was dead. I was pretty tilted, and actually really sad (ever since I was a kid I actually sometimes have weird feelings for inanimate objects.. lol as if they have feelings or something.............................. So random story: When I was 6/7 or so, if I woke up in the house and only 1 Air-conditioner was on, I used to get really upset and run around the house turning on its "friends" aka other AC's so it didn't have to work so hard or be alone in the struggle to cool the house. I felt like it was unfair that a machine was being over-used or something, stupid I guess, I know, I'm sure theres some psychological name for this lol). Anyway this weird attachment is only to shit that I've spent a lot of time with, like a sentimental object or whatever, oh well, moving back to the story.

So I spent hours trying to see if it was 100% dead. Went around to other PC's in the house and tried to see if it worked on them, etc. Realized the buttons all worked but the sensor was 100% dead (didn't turn on).

I finally decided I would finally use the Zowie Mico I had got months earlier (thankfully I did not end up giving it to Nal_ra when he visited here and loved it :D). I started to play with it, but grew really annoyed.

Basically I'm horrible at dealing with new gear, and it takes weeks to adjust to a new gear piece. The mouse also for some reason slightly hurts my hand (and now my hands are healed from the damage last year, so I don't want to re-injure them) and gets annoying while playing. I'm sure I can "overcome" this and just "adapt" to it.

So anyway today Carn told me he had a spare Kinzu, unopened etc, I went to Sinchon to go get it with a friend and now I'm back here. The problem I'm having is not knowing whether to just keep using this mico which I believe [could] be beneficial in the longer run of things, or to stay true to what I've been using. The issue is I've heard the Kinzu has hidden features that are actually really bad for gaming, and thus probably has created bad habits in my accuracy or something, that would prohibit me from doing similar things on almost any other normal mouse, if this is true does anyone have an idea of all the hidden features or whatever?

I've googled, and even naver'd, but come to find conflicting results, and SS's own "comment" about it is pretty lackluster as it seems really grey in terms of a description. The other issue I'm facing is apparently the Hz(?) the mico has might not be functional on future operating systems soon or something (this is what a few of the koreans here are telling me, and this is not google-able). ~_~!

Opinions! T_T

EDIT - My other fear is the model-type Kinzu I use is almost not being made anymore (no longer avail. in Korea for example, and some other countries from what I've seen) and thus if it breaks again, I just wasted X more months. Whereas at least the mico is constantly made and also very easily accessible here in Korea, even in the most basic of shops.

Poll: Kinzu or Mico?

Mico (9)
 
56%

Kinzu (7)
 
44%

16 total votes

Your vote: Kinzu or Mico?

(Vote): Kinzu
(Vote): Mico




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Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
October 03 2012 13:30 GMT
#2
why use a mouse that hurts your hand?
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
October 03 2012 13:51 GMT
#3
On October 03 2012 22:30 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
why use a mouse that hurts your hand?


The model type used to not hurt my hand (I used the logitech mini for years) I assume it's just because I've been only using a larger mouse for a long time now. ~_~
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
DueleR
Profile Joined May 2010
United States207 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 14:44:25
October 03 2012 14:42 GMT
#4
For what it's worth, I switched from a razer abyssus (roughly the same size as a kinzu, maybe a bit smaller) to a mico about a year and a half ago when the mico first came out. It actually hurt my hand at first too - not just the size, but how stiff the clicks were. I still wasn't used to it after a week or so, and I was thinking about switching back to the abyssus. However, I ended up sticking with it, and I ended up MUCH better/more comfortable playing sc2 with the mico. It took maybe 2-3 weeks to get used to it fully, but I never switched back, and I really feel like the mico ended up making me better at sc2.

I'm not a competitive player though, I was top master's NA at the time (so basically I sucked) and I was just laddering in my free time outside of work, so I could afford to try out new mice and stuff like that. Since you're a competitive player it might not be worth it to sacrifice those 2-3 weeks on the hope that you'll end up getting used to it, assuming you already play fine with a kinzu.
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
October 03 2012 14:52 GMT
#5
Not so much a 'hidden' feature, but the positive acceleration issues with the original V1 Kinzu is well documented. The sensor would track inconsistently, but in addition the PCS and MR of the Kinzu were also abysmally low, which mean that beyond which you would also experience negative acceleration...Not ideal for gaming.

As a SC player you likely wouldn't notice these issues nearly as much as a low sens FPS player would, but they are still there. That being said, the updated Kinzu V2 is better than the original, but not by a lot (PCS is still very low at around 1.7m/s, but +ve accel is gone), however, for SC you probably wouldn't have any issues with it unless your mousing went past 1.7m/s, which for SC would be pretty fast. The 3305 sensor also likely interpolates 3200CPI as that registry is not great, so if you use it then be wary that this CPI step might not be optimal (though I would highly doubt you'd be that high). Also funny enough, the MiCO also uses the 3305, so between these two shape might determine which is better overall, especially if your are worried about injury.

Also depending on your hand size be aware that the MiCO could be too small based on that and your grip type (it could be fine though). I had a Pyra that I used but couldn't keep using it because it caused joint strain as it was just too small for my hand.

Finally, as a cautionary tale, unless you are talking to a R&D person from a company I would generally not believe a word they say. Marketing teams, presidents, or the like most times highlight the unnecessary and superflous or don't have sufficient knowledge, and if there are features that are actually flaws with the firmware, or construction, then they wouldn't mention it or would say something that confused the issue (which has happened a lot in the past). Steelseries for example used to say they used high grade Teflon feet for their mice but in actuality used UPE, which is in fact plastic and not Teflon. Razer used to say angle snapping (or for them, drift control) was something gamers wanted or benefited from.

pps. I would keep a look out for the Ninox Aurora and Velocity as they could be a good fit.
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Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
October 03 2012 18:59 GMT
#6
I can't imagine Windows 8 or 9 messing with mouse compatibility so you're safe on that front with the Mico.
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