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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 17 2012 04:40 GMT
#1
I am done with razer mice. Another abyssus has kicked the can (well, it kicked the can last week). My last 4 mice have now been razer mice, each lasting 4-6 months. Time to order a g9x or something since they are on sale for $57 on Amazon atm....

Haven't really been able to play SC2 without being really annoyed for over a month now since the tracking already had started developing a huge bias, so I ended up with 0 minimap awareness because I would have to focus all my attention on controlling the mouse pointer, which is partly why I stopped playing ladder altogether.

Why do Abyssuses feel so plastic-like, and feel so damn terrible of build quality? They don't feel anything like the bigger razer mice I've seen. Oh well, on to other claw grip mice.

Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
September 17 2012 04:42 GMT
#2
Awww...yeah I have a DA and it has been running strong for a while, but I've heard a lot of bad things about razer build quality in general.

Maybe try the zowie mico (I think it was called). A lot of my friends swear by it, and I believe it's a smaller mouse.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 17 2012 04:45 GMT
#3
On September 17 2012 13:42 Aerisky wrote:
Awww...yeah I have a DA and it has been running strong for a while, but I've heard a lot of bad things about razer build quality in general.

Maybe try the zowie mico (I think it was called). A lot of my friends swear by it, and I believe it's a smaller mouse.

Only goes up to 1600 dpi, so too slow for the amount of wrist movement I use. 3500+ only basically.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
September 17 2012 05:05 GMT
#4
Sigh, my DA was amazing for the 1 year it lasted
then it pooped
I'm planning on finding a large steelseries mouse or something to replace it
but if I can't, i'm gonna go straight back to razer. The deathadder is simply too perfect for my hand to give up
can i get my estro logo back pls
Antimatterz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1010 Posts
September 17 2012 05:17 GMT
#5
I got a Sensei[RAW] or w/e the capitalization is, and it's very nice. Used to have a Razer Naga (you know, the original one that was fucking awful as shit with the clicking issues and glitchy sensor). Feels very solid, no problems or complaints yet. Also unlike the new Synapse 2.0, the Steelseries engine doesn't crash every time it gets opened.
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1a2a3a[MB]
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States297 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 05:50:34
September 17 2012 05:20 GMT
#6
go with the MiCo it is has a solid shape built for micro no special buttons cause thats what your keyboard is for... only one problem rare scroll wheel squeak but has been pretty solid after that.. Built for CLAW GRIP!
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empty.bottle
Profile Joined July 2009
685 Posts
September 17 2012 05:21 GMT
#7
lol I've been using mine for a long time... I believe this is my third year.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 17 2012 05:24 GMT
#8
On September 17 2012 14:20 1a2a3a[MB] wrote:
go with the MiCo it is has a solid shape built for micro no special buttons cause thats what your keyboard is for... only one problem rare scroll wheel squeak but has been pretty solid after that..

rawr some people don't even read all the posts in a 6 reply long thread :D
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
September 17 2012 05:36 GMT
#9
On September 17 2012 13:45 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 13:42 Aerisky wrote:
Awww...yeah I have a DA and it has been running strong for a while, but I've heard a lot of bad things about razer build quality in general.

Maybe try the zowie mico (I think it was called). A lot of my friends swear by it, and I believe it's a smaller mouse.

Only goes up to 1600 dpi, so too slow for the amount of wrist movement I use. 3500+ only basically.

Oh wow, I see... :/

Hm, in that case I recommend the CM Storm Spawn. Great price, and it's overall an incredible, incredible mouse. I actually meant to recommend that one in the first place.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 17 2012 05:42 GMT
#10
On September 17 2012 14:36 Aerisky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 13:45 EtherealDeath wrote:
On September 17 2012 13:42 Aerisky wrote:
Awww...yeah I have a DA and it has been running strong for a while, but I've heard a lot of bad things about razer build quality in general.

Maybe try the zowie mico (I think it was called). A lot of my friends swear by it, and I believe it's a smaller mouse.

Only goes up to 1600 dpi, so too slow for the amount of wrist movement I use. 3500+ only basically.

Oh wow, I see... :/

Hm, in that case I recommend the CM Storm Spawn. Great price, and it's overall an incredible, incredible mouse. I actually meant to recommend that one in the first place.

One thing about the Storm Spawn that makes me nervous is that it's rated for significantly less clicks than the g9x. Makes me wonder if that relates to build quality at all.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 05:45:19
September 17 2012 05:44 GMT
#11
How much DPI do you use? See if you can get your hands on a Logitech G100. It can go up to 2500 I think.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 05:47:37
September 17 2012 05:46 GMT
#12
Ah, that might be true I suppose. If you can spare the money, you might as well try out the Storm Spawn since it's really quite cheap. 5 million clicks is also not too bad. At how many clicks is the g9x rated? I couldn't google up the answer :X

Ah, 8 million ._.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Carson
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada820 Posts
September 17 2012 05:49 GMT
#13
I'm surprised to hear this. I bought a DA and then got the black widow keyboard too. Both are still going strong (2 years DA and 1.5 BW) Haven't even had the slightest problem. I'm hoping that you guys are all the exception, because I have happy hands using the stuff I have.
"You have to remember something: Everybody pities the weak; jealousy you have to earn." Arnold Schwarzenegger
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 05:50:01
September 17 2012 05:49 GMT
#14
On September 17 2012 14:44 rebdomine wrote:
How much DPI do you use? See if you can get your hands on a Logitech G100. It can go up to 2500 I think.

I play at 3500 right now, which is the most the abyssus can go to. I kind of want to try higher though, just as an exercise in hand-eye xD

On September 17 2012 14:49 Carson wrote:
I'm surprised to hear this. I bought a DA and then got the black widow keyboard too. Both are still going strong (2 years DA and 1.5 BW) Haven't even had the slightest problem. I'm hoping that you guys are all the exception, because I have happy hands using the stuff I have.

Deathadder feels solid. Abyssus feels like a piece of shit. Sadly I use the Salmosa/Abyssus cause that's the only claw grip mice Razer makes.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 06:27:55
September 17 2012 06:27 GMT
#15
On September 17 2012 14:49 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 14:44 rebdomine wrote:
How much DPI do you use? See if you can get your hands on a Logitech G100. It can go up to 2500 I think.

I play at 3500 right now, which is the most the abyssus can go to. I kind of want to try higher though, just as an exercise in hand-eye xD

.


o_O what resolution are you running on? I find 3500 to be insanely fast on 1920 x 1080 and with windows sens on 6/11.

Isn't it hard to be accurate with your mouse motions when running DPI that high?

"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 17 2012 06:28 GMT
#16
On September 17 2012 15:27 rebdomine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 14:49 EtherealDeath wrote:
On September 17 2012 14:44 rebdomine wrote:
How much DPI do you use? See if you can get your hands on a Logitech G100. It can go up to 2500 I think.

I play at 3500 right now, which is the most the abyssus can go to. I kind of want to try higher though, just as an exercise in hand-eye xD

.


o_O what resolution are you running on? I find 3500 to be insanely fast on 1920 x 1080 and with windows sens on 6/11.

Isn't it hard to be accurate with your mouse motions when running DPI that high?


3500 DPI, 1920x1080, 6/11. I actually feel its kind of slow sometimes lol.
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
September 17 2012 08:11 GMT
#17
he's insane...he wants to try 5600dpi now LMFAO

gl...I recommend the g9x of course without all that stuff on it...just barebone
surfinbird1
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany999 Posts
September 17 2012 08:45 GMT
#18
Steelseries Sensei[RAW] for large hands, Kinzu for small hands. 100% recommended, they're cheap and made to last.
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
September 17 2012 09:01 GMT
#19
Wierd, i've used an Abyssus for 9 months now and it still works without a hitch.
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DKR
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom622 Posts
September 17 2012 10:55 GMT
#20
TT-esports mice are pretty good, roccat, steel series, logitech <- all make good mice. Must be said I've got a DA and haven't had a problem :/ Why would anyone buy an abyssus anyway? eww.
"1 base. Cheese man." - MKP. "[MVP] is not stylistic, his style is winning, which is the style you want to have." - Artosis
divito
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1213 Posts
September 17 2012 11:57 GMT
#21
All these new-age kids and their ridiculously high DPIs; getting caught up in the "higher is better" nonsense so prevalent in marketing. Sigh.
Skype: divito7
Poltergeist-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden336 Posts
September 17 2012 13:32 GMT
#22
Had my deathadder for a few years now. Still feels pretty much as solid as when I bought it.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
September 17 2012 14:08 GMT
#23
I use a G500. Much more durable than any of Razer's stuff as far as I know. With a much better warranty and better service as well. I rarely ditch a company like Razer but now I've had enough. I wonder if it's on purpose but their products are great when they work - but they break. A lot.

I guess some of their products do well, like the deathadder. Maybe they forgot to put the self destruct device in there.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 17 2012 16:44 GMT
#24
On September 17 2012 20:57 divito wrote:
All these new-age kids and their ridiculously high DPIs; getting caught up in the "higher is better" nonsense so prevalent in marketing. Sigh.

It's actually preference for me, because units in sc2 have non-small hitboxes if you compare it to say headshotting someone at long range in an fps (therefore higher DPI becomes controllable) and also it means I dont have to move my hand much.

Now I don't think 5700 dpi will be controllable, but it's a fun challenge to try out on the side :D

I've been at 1800 dpi for 4 years and 3500 for over 1 year now, so it's not really getting caught up in marketing (which I don't even pay attention to). It's just... it works better for me. Also I don't get a mouse because it can go to 5700 dpi, it's more like the g9x is just a damn good mouse from what I hear and read, and it just so happens it can go that ridiculously high, so why not give that high setting a go!
robaq
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland186 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 18:05:58
September 17 2012 18:05 GMT
#25
I will just stay with my trusty Microsoft wheel mouse optical.
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I bought a ton of them for almost nothing, it's impossible to destroy, uses the same sensor as Intellimouse explorer and the shape is good for anything (dunno about cs though). As long as I won't use some really high resolutions (think 1280x1024 and above), this piece of hardware has the best sensor ever invented.
And fuck razers, i had a Diamondback 3G and Salmosa, both sucked, and i never really felt these milion DPIs other than the mouse going apeshit at low res.
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 17 2012 18:29 GMT
#26
On September 18 2012 03:05 robaq wrote:
I will just stay with my trusty Microsoft wheel mouse optical.
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I bought a ton of them for almost nothing, it's impossible to destroy, uses the same sensor as Intellimouse explorer and the shape is good for anything (dunno about cs though). As long as I won't use some really high resolutions (think 1280x1024 and above), this piece of hardware has the best sensor ever invented.
And fuck razers, i had a Diamondback 3G and Salmosa, both sucked, and i never really felt these milion DPIs other than the mouse going apeshit at low res.

Believe it or not, I did get that exact Microsoft mouse at one point. It also died within 6 months lol. Maybe I click shit too hard... I know my key presses have been commented on as being overly hard smashing.
xianglongfa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States13 Posts
September 20 2012 04:05 GMT
#27
yes jason u click rly fucking hard
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