Not really related to the OP, sorry.

Some really odd ideas some of the posters here have about science and engineering courses. Saying there is no soul or you're just being filled with information is bizarre to me. I'm in my third year of my computer engineering degree and I tell you I can make anything. The world is literally my oister. There is no end to my canvas. It makes the entirety of art seem narrow in scope. Not just in what my final product is, but in the way it is implemented. In the multitudes of mediums it can be expressed to make whatever result I would have. Just because most people would'nt understand it, see the nuances or ever care because it's just another program / solution to an excercise / gadget doesn't mean it's not there. To me what you're saying sounds as stupid to me, as saying that anyone going the liberal arts route is not contributing to society at all.

babylon

8765 Posts

September 03 2012 23:40 GMT

#23

On September 04 2012 08:13 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Grow a fucking pair. if u want ur dad to change earn his respect first. your perception of him is probably so inherently wrong. i mean i can already point out inconsistencies
"starts crying at how my family treats him"
"is perfectly content with his life of misery"
poor guy probably works all the time cuz its all he has left aside from a shitty family that doesn't appreciate him for anything.

"Has no sense of intimate conversation, private, family-type of conversation."
so tell him that. hell ask the guy how he feels. absolutely no one is gonna be "intimate" with a bunch of clowns that think he's some sort of low-life for providing ... every god damned thing u guys have.

from what i can tell he still
- makes an effort to talk to the family
- "Constantly asks me what I want, tells me to do this, do that, stop this, stop that"

which is called attempting to raise your spoiled brat kid

makes me sick cuz this is more or less how i probably thought of my dad when i was younger =-/

You know nothing about his dad except what he said. He could be making everything up, he could be portraying him entirely accurately. You say that his perception is "probably so inherently wrong," and point to "inconsistencies." Well, open your eyes, look around you, and tell me that people aren't inconsistent. You have 1% of the story, and you're trying to berate the OP for not understanding enough? How ironic. You'll get much farther in your "analysis" by simply talking about the generation gap between Taiwanese parents and Taiwanese-American kids and how that affects communication (or rather, the lack thereof).

On September 04 2012 08:14 Clearout wrote:
Not really related to the OP, sorry.

Some really odd ideas some of the posters here have about science and engineering courses. Saying there is no soul or you're just being filled with information is bizarre to me. I'm in my third year of my computer engineering degree and I tell you I can make anything. The world is literally my oister. There is no end to my canvas. It makes the entirety of art seem narrow in scope. Not just in what my final product is, but in the way it is implemented. In the multitudes of mediums it can be expressed to make whatever result I would have. Just because most people would'nt understand it, see the nuances or ever care because it's just another program / solution to an excercise / gadget doesn't mean it's not there. To me what you're saying sounds as stupid to me, as saying that anyone going the liberal arts route is not contributing to society at all.

CS, engineering, and other hard sciences have soul. It's just that you probably have as many students going down that route simply because they want money as you have students who are there because they actually like what they're doing. Not so different from people getting the impression that many majors in lib arts do it for "easy As, party all week!" when there are just as many who study English, history, philosophy (beneficial across all majors imo, actually v. similar to math), anthropology, etc. for the love of it and work exceedingly hard.

That said, accountants have no soul~~~~

HeavOnEarth

United States7087 Posts

September 03 2012 23:49 GMT

#24

Tommie

China658 Posts

September 04 2012 00:33 GMT

#25

Why does your dad work as much as he does? Is it really necessary? There are so many people who "work their ass off for their family". So many people who feel like they are a modern day Jesus because they work 45 hours a week and have a family. Well, maybe if you just got a smaller house and a cheaper car, you could actually spend more time with your family. If you work for your family you make sure you take holidays and spend time with them.

PS I am not talking about poor people with shitty jobs who actually have to bust their asses to make ends meet. I'm talking about the middle class.

United States6173 Posts

September 04 2012 01:56 GMT

#26

Liberal arts majors are fine and all while you're in college. You learn a lot about yourself, others, and the world around you. You gain a lot of interesting perspective and come out a better person.

Unfortunately, you also leave college useless to the world with no potential to make any money.

Trust me, I know. I majored in Philosophy.

CecilSunkure

United States2829 Posts

September 04 2012 07:44 GMT

#27

On September 04 2012 05:22 docvoc wrote:

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Cecil I don't tend to disagree with you on most things because you are almost always on point, but I can't agree here. You can't just go learn everything. I would never suggest ANYONE go and read Leviathan by Hobbes without a teacher. The same way, you make points about his dad not changing since everyone can change. Finally, the last point is just.. wow, thats like whenever anyone complains, you just say, "Oh well *insert impoverished country child dying of X reason here* has it worse," it doesn't help anything, and it only makes you look like a hypocrite when you probably complain about your own issues also. Its not healthy to ignore issues just because someone has it worse.

Hmm I understand, but my point was to target the OP's attitude. I don't advocate him ignoring his issues because others have it worse, and I don't advocate learning "everything". I really just wanted to throw some criticism towards him, as he seemed to be lacking a well-rounded perspective, as well as the initiative to take on simple tasks. That's all.

imBLIND

United States2626 Posts

September 04 2012 08:41 GMT

#28

Yea well sorry I'm in a bitchy mood okay? I didn't realize I was writing a college essay with a thesis, quotes, and throwing my own unbiased input as the person going through this. I wrote this blog because I wanted to vent to people, not to have other people criticize my venting.

I'm sorry I don't proofread anything I write, especially when I'm not in that great of a mood. I never meant this as an insult to liberal arts majors or to the actual major itself, it just helps me vent when I'm doing a shitty attempt at poetry.

What I wrote is biased, emotional, probably shouldn't belong on a public forum to begin with, and pretty fucking hard to understand as well, but acting like assholes or a TA grading my shitty writing = not helping.

To everyone else, thanks for putting up with me. Knowing that a stranger out there, who doesn't know me at all, actually taking time out of their lives to post a decent comment helps more than you know.

CecilSunkure

United States2829 Posts

September 04 2012 18:55 GMT

#29

Don't take it so personally. I'm just trying to help. So are other people criticizing.

One more piece of wisdom: If you don't want any criticism and want people to actually know you're just ranting, then add a small disclaimer at the top of your blog. I see people do this all the time. Then you can just safely ignore anyone you want, because you intelligently let people know that you're just ranting.