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WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
August 31 2012 01:26 GMT
#1
Well, god damnit. I actually like the Beatles now. (listened to the whole white album)

I used to think my highschool friends were just trying to be cool and hip or something, so i would just ignore anything related to the beatles, which is too bad because the beatles are in fact quite good. Its incredible how many popular rock songs ive listened to over the years take liberties or just plain rip off the beatles. most notably for me was offsprings Why dont you get a job? from the beatles Obla - Di - Oblada. (the chorus is just different words same melody.) even little guitar riffs at the end of some songs are like "hey thats a goddamn nirvana song." or this band or that band.

Now its not like i havent listened to respectable music before, i still like nine inch nails and radiohead and incubus - despite them having similar sounding songs, but literally this has opened my eyes.

THAT SAID - i still would like to get one thing clear. Were "The Rutles" just a cover band of the beatles or did they come out before - because on Youtube theres this song + Show Spoiler +
and many others that have 1962 or before which is before the beatles yet on pretty much every other site it lists them being basically a comedy band which does the weird al approach but to beatles songs. http://www.rutles.org/rstory.html maybe theres just a lot of trolling, cause thats about the only thing thats making me a little skeptical of them.

but i still dont think they are better than obviously the classical composers or even a few bands now days, they just sound so timeless and definetly deserve the hooblah they get. what album should i listen to next? ive just started abbey road.

****
ParkwayDrive
Profile Joined July 2011
United States328 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 01:41:43
August 31 2012 01:40 GMT
#2
it took me a long time to appreciate how great the beatles actually were.

this is what you do next. take mushrooms or lsd and listen to sergeant pepper lonely hearts club band album in its entirety. then listen to magical mystery tour in its entirety.

this is when you will truly appreciate the beauty of the beatles and the musical genius they actually possess. not to mention they were writing this kind of music at a time when it was completely original and unheard of. amazing

those two albums are less "pop" than earlier beatles stuff and truly shows off their talent. and dont get me wrong its still just as good sober, u just might miss a few details in the sound
Spikeke
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada106 Posts
August 31 2012 02:34 GMT
#3
THAT SAID - i still would like to get one thing clear. Were "The Rutles" just a cover band of the beatles or did they come out before


I don't know about the dates. But I always had the impression that The Rutles were just a cover band. Perhaps they were a band before under a different name? Or maybe the name similarity was pure chance and they thought it would be funny to parody Beatles songs.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
August 31 2012 03:09 GMT
#4
Yeah the beatles are great. I also used to hate Queen but Freddie Mercury is just superb. Maybe some of these things are sort of an acquired taste so many timeless classics from then.
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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 03:20:46
August 31 2012 03:12 GMT
#5
I am a HUGE Beatles fan. My wife and my bedroom is covers in Beatles posters. As for your question, the Rutles were just a parody band by Neil Innes and the guys from Monty Python that didn't come about until the mid 70s. In fact, the Rutles movie is just a hilarious parody of the Beatles history and their songs are all just parodies.
The songs were like "Hold My Hand" instead of "I Wanna Hold Your hand" and "Love Life" which was a parody of "All You Need is Love." As for that video, it is part of their fictional history. They did not form until 1975. Watch the movie of the Rutles, it is hilarious.

Any other questions or comments about the Beatles, I will talk Beatles music all day long. Respond on here or feel free to PM me.

I made reference to my love for The Beatles in this blog if you are interested in reading: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=239926

As for albums and getting into the Beatles, the White Album is good (Dear Prudence is like one of my absolute favs.), and it was also the album that got me into them, but as for songwriting and music interest, I always prefer "Rubber Soul" and "Help!" I section their albums into different stages of their writing career and those early-mid albums are the best (Help! Rubber Soul, Revolver, into Sgt. Pepper.) Lately though Abbey Road has been on my player a ton because it was where George Harrison really came into his own. He wrote the two best songs on that album and two of my best Beatles song all together in "Something" and "Here Comes the Sun."
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EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
August 31 2012 04:02 GMT
#6
On August 31 2012 10:40 ParkwayDrive wrote:
it took me a long time to appreciate how great the beatles actually were.

this is what you do next. take mushrooms or lsd and listen to sergeant pepper lonely hearts club band album in its entirety. then listen to magical mystery tour in its entirety.

this is when you will truly appreciate the beauty of the beatles and the musical genius they actually possess. not to mention they were writing this kind of music at a time when it was completely original and unheard of. amazing

those two albums are less "pop" than earlier beatles stuff and truly shows off their talent. and dont get me wrong its still just as good sober, u just might miss a few details in the sound


Yep.

wnio how you never listen to the beatles. lol.

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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
August 31 2012 05:47 GMT
#7
The Beatles are great i love them to.But there are others out there just as great to say at least like Creedence Clearwater Revival,The Doors,Jimi Hendrix,Canned Heat,Dire Straits,Eric Clapton,ZZ Top,The Rolling Stones,Queen,The Monkeys,The Who,The Guess Who,The Animals and the list could go on and on and on...
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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 06:51:49
August 31 2012 05:52 GMT
#8
On August 31 2012 14:47 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
The Beatles are great i love them to.But there are others out there just as great to say at least like Creedence Clearwater Revival,The Doors,Jimi Hendrix,Canned Heat,Dire Straits,Eric Clapton,ZZ Top,The Rolling Stones,Queen,The Monkeys,The Who,The Guess Who,The Animals and the list could go on and on and on...


While I love CCR, Canned Heat (They played the old theater I worked at before...), DS, Claptop, The Guess Who, the other bands, The Doors, The Stones, Queen, The Who, and The Animals are all better, but in the end the only other one of this list that comes close for me to The Beatles is Jimi, but The Beatles still win. =)

I went through those phases...for a long time I was Pink Floyd addict, then a Zepplin, then Jimi, then whatever, but The Beatles have always been there. When I listen to "Day in the Life," "In my Life," or "Revolution" and I completely convinced they were the most amazing group of musicians ever assembled.

Oh, hi EatThePath. =)
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ParkwayDrive
Profile Joined July 2011
United States328 Posts
August 31 2012 06:38 GMT
#9
omg day in the life. maybe the most creative song ever. and within you without you will put me in a trance for hours


revolver is good too. the song "tomorrow never knows". i highly recommend you listen to it. again, ill be in a trance and will tend to tear up...its the most relaxing song ive ever heard that isnt modern day electronic trance music

dudes were so far ahead of their time
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 06:56:32
August 31 2012 06:52 GMT
#10
On August 31 2012 10:26 WniO wrote:

Now its not like i havent listened to respectable music before, i still like nine inch nails and radiohead and incubus - despite them having similar sounding songs, but literally this has opened my eyes.


how are people not catching this obvious troll o_O

edit: also the beatles were boring and poppy as shit and their only innovation was being a couple of cute white dudes in the right place at the right time

and none of them know how to play their instruments for dog shit
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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
August 31 2012 07:29 GMT
#11
On August 31 2012 15:52 corpuscle wrote:
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On August 31 2012 10:26 WniO wrote:

Now its not like i havent listened to respectable music before, i still like nine inch nails and radiohead and incubus - despite them having similar sounding songs, but literally this has opened my eyes.


how are people not catching this obvious troll o_O

edit: also the beatles were boring and poppy as shit and their only innovation was being a couple of cute white dudes in the right place at the right time

and none of them know how to play their instruments for dog shit


how are people not catching this obvious troll o_O


this obvious troll o_O


this obvious troll o_O


i c what you did there
surfinbird1
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany999 Posts
August 31 2012 08:22 GMT
#12
Even I as a die hard technical death metal fan love the Beatles. There's just something about their music that's catchy and ingenious and original. Even though it's poppy as shit I always find little details in their music that makes their songs deeper than your average pop band. It gives me the same feeling like metal. Amazing.
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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 08:31:39
August 31 2012 08:27 GMT
#13
On August 31 2012 17:22 surfinbird1 wrote:
Even I as a die hard technical death metal fan love the Beatles. There's just something about their music that's catchy and ingenious and original. Even though it's poppy as shit I always find little details in their music that makes their songs deeper than your average pop band. It gives me the same feeling like metal. Amazing.


This is damn right. They were so ahead of their times. They are not only credited for changing music in styles and songwriting, but for basically creating the music video and the album as an entire entity, not just a collection of songs. The Beatles are the fucking best! =)

Sorry, I just get excited and overflowing with Beatles love when I see other fans. In fact, because of these posts I am blasting Sgt. Pepper right now.
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ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 08:29:59
August 31 2012 08:28 GMT
#14
The Beatles are great. It's not my favorite band, but they are up there. They were obviously incredibly talented, and they were pretty much the first real band, who wrote their own songs. They are very influential for their rhytms and song structure. If you listen to Rolling Stones, especially early songs like Satisfaction, you can tell that they were trying to imitate the Beatles. One of their strengths was also their sense of humour, which was extra noticeable on the White Album. Just listen to Wild Honey Pie. Its sole purpose was to troll the listeners, and nothing like that had been released at the time.

Anyway, for the record. If you need to take drugs to appreciate The Beatles, Pink Floyd or whatever, you're severely lacking in imagination.
Aterons_toss
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania1275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 09:18:44
August 31 2012 09:17 GMT
#15
On August 31 2012 17:28 ninini wrote:

Anyway, for the record. If you need to take drugs to appreciate The Beatles, Pink Floyd or whatever, you're severely lacking in imagination.


Non said you need to, it just "enhances the experience".

Personally I started listening to them as one of my first "rock bands", after a while i found out more and more band that i liked much better but every 1 year or so i come back to them an realize how much more i like their songs and how "refined" they are compared to other bands, not to mention how much the other songs are "inspired" from them.

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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 09:23:40
August 31 2012 09:22 GMT
#16
On August 31 2012 18:17 Aterons_toss wrote:
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On August 31 2012 17:28 ninini wrote:

Anyway, for the record. If you need to take drugs to appreciate The Beatles, Pink Floyd or whatever, you're severely lacking in imagination.


Non said you need to, it just "enhances the experience".

Personally I started listening to them as one of my first "rock bands", after a while i found out more and more band that i liked much better but every 1 year or so i come back to them an realize how much more i like their songs and how "refined" they are compared to other bands, not to mention how much the other songs are "inspired" from them.



I am not a drug user at all, hell, it is hard to get me to take a damn headache pill even, but I do think that there may be an argument in saying that if musicians created music on drugs, then one can say that when they created it, they heard it through the lens of drug use, and therefore can only be properly experienced through drug use as well. While I am not saying that is true, there is an argument for it at least. Also, let's add this to the mix:



+ Show Spoiler +
Great joke, but the fact is that while Ringo sang Yellow Submarine, Paul wrote it just to have a silly song for Ringo to sing.
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Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
August 31 2012 09:28 GMT
#17
I think the band is great, but overrated. People drool over every single Beatles song even though a lot of it is quite shitty indeed. I am the walrus and yellow submarine are both terrible. Which is a bit sad, since a lot of people probably don't hear their amazing material because of crap being lifted to the sky as"genious".

Stuff like While My Guitar Gently Weeps, amazing.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
August 31 2012 09:32 GMT
#18
On August 31 2012 18:28 Tobberoth wrote:
I think the band is great, but overrated. People drool over every single Beatles song even though a lot of it is quite shitty indeed. I am the walrus and yellow submarine are both terrible. Which is a bit sad, since a lot of people probably don't hear their amazing material because of crap being lifted to the sky as"genious".

Stuff like While My Guitar Gently Weeps, amazing.


LoL. Guitar is awesome, and I agree that there are some songs that are overrated and don't make much sense, but sometimes, like in the case of Walrus, it is not supposed to really make sense but yet people try to piece together meaning out of the nonsense, and that in itself is part of what makes it interesting to me at least. Yellow Submarine is a silly song, but you know, kids love it, it is catchy, and there is at least something to say for that. Neither of those two songs though are where their true talent and brilliance lie. It is more in songs like "Guitar Gently Weeps," "Across the Universe," "Revolution," and "Day in the Life."

I will not go as far as to call their other works crap, but I will admit that they were not always genius.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10687 Posts
August 31 2012 09:55 GMT
#19
In general they are (way) overrated... BUT a few/some of their song are strokes of genius that influenced tons of bands after (which they temselves probably often stole from some rather unknown black musicians before, as most white "greats" did)...

Imho Queen is not getting the attention they really deserve(d), those guys, every one of them were amazing.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
August 31 2012 10:02 GMT
#20
On August 31 2012 18:55 Velr wrote:
In general they are (way) overrated... BUT a few/some of their song are strokes of genius that influenced tons of bands after (which they temselves probably often stole from some rather unknown black musicians before, as most white "greats" did)...

Imho Queen is not getting the attention they really deserve(d), those guys, every one of them were amazing.


While I love Queen and think that Freddy was bay far one of the greatest modern male singers (along with Roy Orbison,) they had some influence and a ton of talent, but nothing to the level of the changes and influences of the Beatles I think. I think that a lot of people don't realize that is was not just their music, it was the right time and place and they were so far ahead of their time in riff creation, in rock music structure as well as style, and in marketing and packaging their brand. It is weird, but just little things that no one had done before, like use guitar feedback as a musical device as on "I Feel Fine." They are credited with creating that by accident, liking the sound, and now feedback is a standard device used in a ton of modern rock.

Sorry, I am just a huge Beatles geek. I understand that many people don't care for them as I do, but I have turned so many non-Beatles fans into Beatles fans that I get geeked out talking about them. Ha.
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Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
August 31 2012 10:06 GMT
#21
Im a huge fan of the Beatles! I love Revolver. For No One is pretty deliciously haunting and Eleanor Rigby is great as well. Magical Mystery Tour, Sgt.Pepper and Abbey Road are awesome too
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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
August 31 2012 10:09 GMT
#22
On August 31 2012 19:06 Azera wrote:
Im a huge fan of the Beatles! I love Revolver. For No One is pretty deliciously haunting and Eleanor Rigby is great as well. Magical Mystery Tour, Sgt.Pepper and Abbey Road are awesome too


Great shout out for "For No One." That is a great tune that I forget about a lot since I don't really listen to Revolver as much as I should. My wife is a "Revolver" girl where I am more of a "Rubber Soul" guy. =)
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 31 2012 10:30 GMT
#23
there's a beatles song for every mood you could be in
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BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 11:17:34
August 31 2012 11:16 GMT
#24
Cool blog

What I find fascinating with the beatles is the evolution in their music from their beginning to their end. It's just incredible to see a band, that had after all a quite short span of activity, having such an transformation in their music.

Like, between their early songs like "I Wanna Hold your Hand" or other cheesy/sugary stuff, and their later albums, there a world of evolution, in their working process, in their mindset, in composition and in production, that is quite unparrallelled imo. And what's even more genius, is that they managed this without losing their identity, you can still recognize their signature melodies/sounds but as you go through the albums and the years, it becomes more and more detailed, richer, more "masterful" (dunno really how to say it in english :<)
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Hoon
Profile Joined December 2010
Brazil891 Posts
August 31 2012 11:28 GMT
#25
On August 31 2012 19:09 TheAmazombie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 19:06 Azera wrote:
Im a huge fan of the Beatles! I love Revolver. For No One is pretty deliciously haunting and Eleanor Rigby is great as well. Magical Mystery Tour, Sgt.Pepper and Abbey Road are awesome too


Great shout out for "For No One." That is a great tune that I forget about a lot since I don't really listen to Revolver as much as I should. My wife is a "Revolver" girl where I am more of a "Rubber Soul" guy. =)

It's not like Revolver and Rubber Soul aren't the 2 best Beatles discs, heh.
But honestly, Revolver is better. :p
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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
August 31 2012 11:46 GMT
#26
On August 31 2012 20:28 Hoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 19:09 TheAmazombie wrote:
On August 31 2012 19:06 Azera wrote:
Im a huge fan of the Beatles! I love Revolver. For No One is pretty deliciously haunting and Eleanor Rigby is great as well. Magical Mystery Tour, Sgt.Pepper and Abbey Road are awesome too


Great shout out for "For No One." That is a great tune that I forget about a lot since I don't really listen to Revolver as much as I should. My wife is a "Revolver" girl where I am more of a "Rubber Soul" guy. =)

It's not like Revolver and Rubber Soul aren't the 2 best Beatles discs, heh.
But honestly, Revolver is better. :p


I see moments of brilliance in Revolver, but as a whole structure, I think that it lacks. Now, the thing with Rubber Soul is that there are two very different releases as well, the American release and the regular, British release. They were afraid that America would miss out on less of the "poppy" sound, so they changed the track listing significantly removing tracks like "Nowhere Man" and "Drive My Car," but adding tracks like "I've Just Seen a Face," (One of my favorite Paul songs...) and "Its Only Love," plus they mix the tracks up a bit and it leads to a totally different listening experience. You must listen to the original British release though, it is just plain better.

Also though, as a vinyl record, I think that Abbey Road tops them all, the way the record cuts out after "I Want You's" heavy, dragging end, then just stops at the end of side 1, then you flip it over to "Here Comes the Sun" and an entirely new mood. They did such a great job of using the medium as part of the album.
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Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
August 31 2012 12:51 GMT
#27
Revolver is the album where you kinda see the Beatles maturing as a band/human beings with songs like Eleanor Rigby and Taxman.

For No One to me goes quite well with Somebody of Abbey Road in terms of the theme the songs are about. If you listen to

1) Somebody
2) For No One

In that order it tells of a pretty depressing love story. Any more songs that I missed out that has that same feel as those two songs that I missed out? I'm thinking Michelle.
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EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
August 31 2012 20:37 GMT
#28
On August 31 2012 21:51 Azera wrote:
Revolver is the album where you kinda see the Beatles maturing as a band/human beings with songs like Eleanor Rigby and Taxman.

For No One to me goes quite well with Somebody of Abbey Road in terms of the theme the songs are about. If you listen to

1) Somebody
2) For No One

In that order it tells of a pretty depressing love story. Any more songs that I missed out that has that same feel as those two songs that I missed out? I'm thinking Michelle.


As well as their self awareness with Paperback Writer, love that song.
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
August 31 2012 22:17 GMT
#29
I'm such a huge fan of The Beatles. :D I used to like them when I was really young, but after then I had a phase between like 10-15 where I only listened to badass music like Guns N' Roses and similar (I wanted angry and rebeillious music (not that Lennon wasn't a rebel)). I rediscovered them after that though due to the fact that we were doing a huge show with Beatles songs in school (I went to a music gymnasium, which I guess is the equivalent to upper secondary school or something ). As I tend to do when I really like something, I became a hardcore Beatles nerd and learned everyhing there is to know about them (I kid you not; there wasn't a single fact I didn't know about the group or the members at that point in time).

I would, hands down, say they're the best and most influential band of all time, and Lennon is one of the greatest men in the history of mankind.

This is my album ranking (I have put a grade on each and every one of their individual songs, so the list is a simple matter of average score):

Revolver
Stg Pepper
White Album
Rubber Soul
Help
A Hard Days Night
Abbey Road
Let It Be
Beatles For Sale
Please Please Me
Yellow Submarine
With The Beatles

Their best song is no doubt this one though:


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Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
September 01 2012 00:38 GMT
#30
On September 01 2012 07:17 Holgerius wrote:
I'm such a huge fan of The Beatles. :D I used to like them when I was really young, but after then I had a phase between like 10-15 where I only listened to badass music like Guns N' Roses and similar (I wanted angry and rebeillious music (not that Lennon wasn't a rebel)). I rediscovered them after that though due to the fact that we were doing a huge show with Beatles songs in school (I went to a music gymnasium, which I guess is the equivalent to upper secondary school or something ). As I tend to do when I really like something, I became a hardcore Beatles nerd and learned everyhing there is to know about them (I kid you not; there wasn't a single fact I didn't know about the group or the members at that point in time).

I would, hands down, say they're the best and most influential band of all time, and Lennon is one of the greatest men in the history of mankind.

This is my album ranking (I have put a grade on each and every one of their individual songs, so the list is a simple matter of average score):

Revolver
Stg Pepper
White Album
Rubber Soul
Help
A Hard Days Night
Abbey Road
Let It Be
Beatles For Sale
Please Please Me
Yellow Submarine
With The Beatles

Their best song is no doubt this one though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixKCfJhW_x8



How does Magical Mystery Tour rank?
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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
September 01 2012 00:40 GMT
#31
On September 01 2012 09:38 Azera wrote:
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On September 01 2012 07:17 Holgerius wrote:
I'm such a huge fan of The Beatles. :D I used to like them when I was really young, but after then I had a phase between like 10-15 where I only listened to badass music like Guns N' Roses and similar (I wanted angry and rebeillious music (not that Lennon wasn't a rebel)). I rediscovered them after that though due to the fact that we were doing a huge show with Beatles songs in school (I went to a music gymnasium, which I guess is the equivalent to upper secondary school or something ). As I tend to do when I really like something, I became a hardcore Beatles nerd and learned everyhing there is to know about them (I kid you not; there wasn't a single fact I didn't know about the group or the members at that point in time).

I would, hands down, say they're the best and most influential band of all time, and Lennon is one of the greatest men in the history of mankind.

This is my album ranking (I have put a grade on each and every one of their individual songs, so the list is a simple matter of average score):

Revolver
Stg Pepper
White Album
Rubber Soul
Help
A Hard Days Night
Abbey Road
Let It Be
Beatles For Sale
Please Please Me
Yellow Submarine
With The Beatles

Their best song is no doubt this one though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixKCfJhW_x8



How does Magical Mystery Tour rank?


Generally poorly by many people, if you take the movie into account. LoL. I always laugh when watching The Beatles Anthology because you have these interviews where they are talking about the bomb that was MMT. Ringo and George are like "Yeah, that was Paul's idea mostly..." and then you get to Paul who says "Well, I think it was John and me, but really it was John's idea." or something along those lines. Paul being Paul.
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
September 01 2012 00:45 GMT
#32
I actually consider it an awesome record (between Abbey Road and Let It Be).

But I guess everything is relative; even Beatles worst stuff is way better than most other crap out there.
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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
September 01 2012 00:49 GMT
#33
On September 01 2012 09:45 Holgerius wrote:
I actually consider it an awesome record (between Abbey Road and Let It Be).

But I guess everything is relative; even Beatles worst stuff is way better than most other crap out there.


Yeah, it is good as a collection of songs, but I was more referencing the movie and entire package as a whole, and also based on the general consensus. While I like MMT, I rarely listen to it anymore. I would rather normally listen to just one of the Greatest Hits collections and you get the best parts of MMT there.
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Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
September 01 2012 02:16 GMT
#34
Sigh, talking to all of you guys about the Beatles puts a silly smile on my face. I still remember when I first contracted Beatlemania - it was when the Guitar Hero version of the Beatles got released and man my first Beatles song was Twist and Shout from Please Please Me
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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
September 01 2012 02:21 GMT
#35
On September 01 2012 11:16 Azera wrote:
Sigh, talking to all of you guys about the Beatles puts a silly smile on my face. I still remember when I first contracted Beatlemania - it was when the Guitar Hero version of the Beatles got released and man my first Beatles song was Twist and Shout from Please Please Me


Dude, I LOVE playing "Here Comes the Sun" on Beatles Rock Band. Not only a great song, it is just fun to play! Now, blast some "Let It Be" and have a good time. Ha!
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
September 01 2012 03:06 GMT
#36
On September 01 2012 11:21 TheAmazombie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 11:16 Azera wrote:
Sigh, talking to all of you guys about the Beatles puts a silly smile on my face. I still remember when I first contracted Beatlemania - it was when the Guitar Hero version of the Beatles got released and man my first Beatles song was Twist and Shout from Please Please Me


Dude, I LOVE playing "Here Comes the Sun" on Beatles Rock Band. Not only a great song, it is just fun to play! Now, blast some "Let It Be" and have a good time. Ha!


Yeah I recently got a new set of cans as well (Sennheisers HD598).
I love the Beatles.
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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
September 01 2012 08:09 GMT
#37
On September 01 2012 12:06 Azera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 11:21 TheAmazombie wrote:
On September 01 2012 11:16 Azera wrote:
Sigh, talking to all of you guys about the Beatles puts a silly smile on my face. I still remember when I first contracted Beatlemania - it was when the Guitar Hero version of the Beatles got released and man my first Beatles song was Twist and Shout from Please Please Me


Dude, I LOVE playing "Here Comes the Sun" on Beatles Rock Band. Not only a great song, it is just fun to play! Now, blast some "Let It Be" and have a good time. Ha!


Yeah I recently got a new set of cans as well (Sennheisers HD598).
I love the Beatles.


Oh snap. Put on some analog recordings (Not MP3) and jam out to some early stereo recordings, or even the original mono versions. That reminds me, I need a new pair myself...
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
September 01 2012 11:22 GMT
#38
On September 01 2012 17:09 TheAmazombie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 12:06 Azera wrote:
On September 01 2012 11:21 TheAmazombie wrote:
On September 01 2012 11:16 Azera wrote:
Sigh, talking to all of you guys about the Beatles puts a silly smile on my face. I still remember when I first contracted Beatlemania - it was when the Guitar Hero version of the Beatles got released and man my first Beatles song was Twist and Shout from Please Please Me


Dude, I LOVE playing "Here Comes the Sun" on Beatles Rock Band. Not only a great song, it is just fun to play! Now, blast some "Let It Be" and have a good time. Ha!


Yeah I recently got a new set of cans as well (Sennheisers HD598).
I love the Beatles.


Oh snap. Put on some analog recordings (Not MP3) and jam out to some early stereo recordings, or even the original mono versions. That reminds me, I need a new pair myself...


mmmmm

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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 12:41:39
September 01 2012 12:40 GMT
#39
On August 31 2012 19:02 TheAmazombie wrote:
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On August 31 2012 18:55 Velr wrote:
In general they are (way) overrated... BUT a few/some of their song are strokes of genius that influenced tons of bands after (which they temselves probably often stole from some rather unknown black musicians before, as most white "greats" did)...

Imho Queen is not getting the attention they really deserve(d), those guys, every one of them were amazing.


While I love Queen and think that Freddy was bay far one of the greatest modern male singers (along with Roy Orbison,) they had some influence and a ton of talent, but nothing to the level of the changes and influences of the Beatles I think. I think that a lot of people don't realize that is was not just their music, it was the right time and place and they were so far ahead of their time in riff creation, in rock music structure as well as style, and in marketing and packaging their brand. It is weird, but just little things that no one had done before, like use guitar feedback as a musical device as on "I Feel Fine." They are credited with creating that by accident, liking the sound, and now feedback is a standard device used in a ton of modern rock.

Sorry, I am just a huge Beatles geek. I understand that many people don't care for them as I do, but I have turned so many non-Beatles fans into Beatles fans that I get geeked out talking about them. Ha.


I too have to be part of the "Beatles are kinda overrated" group but I agree with most of what you say. At that particular time, they were beyond "remarkable" or "excellent", they truly were ahead of their time. And even though I'm not a fan of pop/pop-rock (and you have to agree it's fair to label quite a significant part of their music as that), they're probably one of the best if not the best band in this genre. I think it's just that we've seen music progress so much that nowadays it's hard to appreciate them as much since we're not used to a period in music before them, which is why I would call them a great band but not a mind-blowing band. (and you can argue that rock music did progress a lot thanks to them and I would agree with that for the most part)

Just as a clarification, I think nobody here is trying to shit on the Beatles when they say they're overrated.

On August 31 2012 19:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
there's a beatles song for every mood you could be in


Do they have songs that get your blood pumping and put you in a "I'm ready to slaughter endless armies" mood?
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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
September 01 2012 21:03 GMT
#40
On September 01 2012 21:40 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 19:02 TheAmazombie wrote:
On August 31 2012 18:55 Velr wrote:
In general they are (way) overrated... BUT a few/some of their song are strokes of genius that influenced tons of bands after (which they temselves probably often stole from some rather unknown black musicians before, as most white "greats" did)...

Imho Queen is not getting the attention they really deserve(d), those guys, every one of them were amazing.


While I love Queen and think that Freddy was bay far one of the greatest modern male singers (along with Roy Orbison,) they had some influence and a ton of talent, but nothing to the level of the changes and influences of the Beatles I think. I think that a lot of people don't realize that is was not just their music, it was the right time and place and they were so far ahead of their time in riff creation, in rock music structure as well as style, and in marketing and packaging their brand. It is weird, but just little things that no one had done before, like use guitar feedback as a musical device as on "I Feel Fine." They are credited with creating that by accident, liking the sound, and now feedback is a standard device used in a ton of modern rock.

Sorry, I am just a huge Beatles geek. I understand that many people don't care for them as I do, but I have turned so many non-Beatles fans into Beatles fans that I get geeked out talking about them. Ha.


I too have to be part of the "Beatles are kinda overrated" group but I agree with most of what you say. At that particular time, they were beyond "remarkable" or "excellent", they truly were ahead of their time. And even though I'm not a fan of pop/pop-rock (and you have to agree it's fair to label quite a significant part of their music as that), they're probably one of the best if not the best band in this genre. I think it's just that we've seen music progress so much that nowadays it's hard to appreciate them as much since we're not used to a period in music before them, which is why I would call them a great band but not a mind-blowing band. (and you can argue that rock music did progress a lot thanks to them and I would agree with that for the most part)

Just as a clarification, I think nobody here is trying to shit on the Beatles when they say they're overrated.

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On August 31 2012 19:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
there's a beatles song for every mood you could be in


Do they have songs that get your blood pumping and put you in a "I'm ready to slaughter endless armies" mood?


I am not sure about that, but I would say some of their songs like "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" and "Happiness is a Warm Gun" might fit the bill best. Then there are some that get crazy like "Helter Skelter" which Charles Manson was quite fond of...
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