• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 21:43
CET 03:43
KST 11:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book15Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0222LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)37Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker11PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)15
StarCraft 2
General
Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Terran Scanner Sweep Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) SC2 AI Tournament 2026 PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
TvZ is the most complete match up Which units you wish saw more use in the game? Ladder maps - how we can make blizz update them? ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 StarCraft player reflex TE scores
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Diablo 2 thread Path of Exile ZeroSpace Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Search For Meaning in Vi…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2319 users

Where are all the Terran at?

Blogs > HomeFlux
Post a Reply
FenrirSC
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Sweden31 Posts
August 22 2012 18:37 GMT
#1
Today, I played five games.

None of the games where vs terran though. it was 3 ZvZ's and 2 ZvP's and I haven't been up against very many terran at all lately. I have noticed some complaining about this is in forums and on reddit but that's mainly on a masters and grandmasters level. Meaning, nowhere close to my level. I just didn't think this was a problem in the lower levels.

I won all games but one. One of the ZvZ's I was to late to react and didn't react enough to a speedling all-in so I just straight up lost while I was trying to tech up.
The other ZvZ's I won though, One through just having more roaches and lings and the other one, oh the other one. This was a special one in my book.

It started out pretty standard without any early aggression except for some ling pokings mainly meant for scouting. We both got to 3 bases unhindered and got out a bunch of roaches and infestors.
This was when the fun started, when we were trying to take fourths and fifths and they kept getting denied. And run-by's where happening while both of us were teching to broodlords.
Eventually a big engagement happened. I won this engagement convinsingly because hydras don't like fungals and ultras it seems.

I managed to kill his fifth and fourth with the remains of my army but they were eventually killed by a few mutas and lings and roaches. I Managed to kill the mutas using my infestors and so I made some more ultras and lings and managed to kill his natural. This army was cleaned up by A LOT of mutas while I was dealing with a metric shit-ton of lings in my main and natural. So I decided to do the same and build a bunch of mutas since I had killed his spires. I outmassed his mutas and managed to kill everything he had on the ground with lings and eventually I won.

This was definently the craziest game of the day since the ZvP's I just went for a stephano-style play with 3-base roach and so forth.

It's been a good day ladder-wise and I might play some more later tonight.

HomeFlux, Signing out!

***
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
August 22 2012 19:18 GMT
#2
They're hiding in their jungle fortress planning a sneak-attack.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10302 Posts
August 22 2012 20:16 GMT
#3
It happens. My friend and I were playing on his computer and we ran into 1 protoss and like 6 zergs.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
boomudead1
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States186 Posts
August 22 2012 20:39 GMT
#4
im a high diamond terran and TvT is rare. everytime i play a terran they either cheese or 1base all in. kinda wack.
JimSocks
Profile Joined February 2009
United States968 Posts
August 22 2012 21:29 GMT
#5
We waiting for the warhound. until then we offrace
netherh
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom333 Posts
August 22 2012 21:35 GMT
#6
Meh. I'm a diamond terran and I've been getting quite a lot of TvTs lately (way more than a month or two ago anyway).
Deleted User 255289
Profile Joined March 2012
281 Posts
August 22 2012 21:49 GMT
#7
in order from most to least: + Show Spoiler +
op
zerg, protoss, terran.
Zerg OP | CreansRNub | k-Poop | Zerg OP | Sea lions | \\m//
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45279 Posts
August 22 2012 21:57 GMT
#8
No way! With a robust sample size of five, who could argue that all the Terrans are in hiding?

Sometimes you hit a bunch of one race, sometimes a bunch of another.

Anyways, the games you did play sound fun
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
MaxSteel
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
78 Posts
August 22 2012 23:11 GMT
#9
Top diam Terran here.

It's really rare facing other Terrans. I think I usually face like 3/2 toss, 2/3 zerg and 1 Terran out of 6 games. And funny enough, all those Terrans are tend to be masters, no diam. Strange...
Herpaderp
Embir
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland567 Posts
August 22 2012 23:12 GMT
#10
It is very simple, and it is definetly not a coincidence.
Playing Terran ATM is a chore. Maybe some pros from Korea can get the best of this race - but for a lot of players all TvX match ups are really hard.

The most depressing thing is the fact that microing as Terran isnt benefiting for you, it just let you survive. But this is a flawed design, instead of nerfing Terran other races should have more units which benefit from good micro too.

Some statistics from my SC2 Gears:

TvT - 182 matches, 65% win ratio
TvP - 264 matches, 42% win ratio
TvZ - 271 matches, 49% win ratio

Terran as the least represented because it is the hardest race to play.

TvT is really the only match up I feel good and on even ground. In other match ups I feel as if I play against the timer.
DRTnOOber
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
New Zealand476 Posts
August 22 2012 23:13 GMT
#11
On August 23 2012 06:57 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
No way! With a robust sample size of five, who could argue that all the Terrans are in hiding?

Sometimes you hit a bunch of one race, sometimes a bunch of another.

Anyways, the games you did play sound fun

Thank you! A larger sample size is required before said deduction can be credible.
But I'm off creep... and so I slow down, what are hellions doing here? I don't belong here...
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 23:19:38
August 22 2012 23:17 GMT
#12
On August 23 2012 08:13 DRTnOOber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 06:57 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
No way! With a robust sample size of five, who could argue that all the Terrans are in hiding?

Sometimes you hit a bunch of one race, sometimes a bunch of another.

Anyways, the games you did play sound fun

Thank you! A larger sample size is required before said deduction can be credible.

You can look at the sc2ranks statistics if you want. There's a lot less terran on ladder above diamond and it's been true for a while. Probably not as much as people are thinking though. There's no foreign terran icon. Thorzain has never been on the same level as idra, huk, or stephano. Maybe for a short period of time though right after tsl3.
Lokk
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada635 Posts
August 22 2012 23:44 GMT
#13
Terran here. just really busy losing~
@Lokk_2/Go Woori 우리
Vronti
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States111 Posts
August 23 2012 00:21 GMT
#14
Terran here, I wish I had your problem >.< TvT is by far my worst matchup, and I got 3/4 Terrans in the games I played today -- lost every one of them =/ Problem is I'm just not a fan of tanks so I get impatient and then just die.
"By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest." — Confucius
Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
August 23 2012 00:26 GMT
#15
Terran has no late game options vs the other two races. It's just currently: keep doing the same stuff and maybe they'll screw it up.

I honestly don't plan on playing sc2 again until hots.
Lokk
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada635 Posts
August 23 2012 02:50 GMT
#16
On August 23 2012 09:26 Nizzy wrote:
Terran has no late game options vs the other two races. It's just currently: keep doing the same stuff and maybe they'll screw it up.

I honestly don't plan on playing sc2 again until hots.

LOL no late game options? you know how good emp is vs protoss? how good ravens are vs zerg?
@Lokk_2/Go Woori 우리
FrodaN
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
754 Posts
August 23 2012 03:51 GMT
#17
On August 23 2012 11:50 Lokk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 09:26 Nizzy wrote:
Terran has no late game options vs the other two races. It's just currently: keep doing the same stuff and maybe they'll screw it up.

I honestly don't plan on playing sc2 again until hots.

LOL no late game options? you know how good emp is vs protoss? how good ravens are vs zerg?


Late game Terran is much harder to use effectively than the late game armies of Zerg and Protoss. In fact, most of Terran's effectiveness generally requires much more activity and better decision making than the standard playstyles of P/Z. There are def hard was to play P/Z, but its much less common.

When controlled to the maximum potential, Terran (especially late game) is arguably unbeatable. However, it's just really damn hard to do so.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
HomeStory Cup 28 - Group C
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 180
StarCraft: Brood War
NaDa 28
Dota 2
syndereN785
NeuroSwarm108
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
fl0m2011
taco 661
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang01273
hungrybox521
Mew2King83
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor170
Other Games
gofns31081
tarik_tv21003
Artosis915
JimRising 792
Maynarde92
ViBE66
ToD61
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1077
BasetradeTV121
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 102
• davetesta49
• mYiSmile114
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki26
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift4723
• Scarra2353
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
6h 17m
Wardi Open
9h 17m
Monday Night Weeklies
14h 17m
OSC
21h 17m
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 9h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
Epic.LAN
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Epic.LAN
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
PiG Sty Festival
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-14
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.