EPTIt's a strange mixture between fear and exitement, when you're doing more than 250 km/h, especially in a car like that BMW. (it wasn't even loud inside the car, basically it felt like riding a train
Luckily, no one got hurt during that experiment.
Germany (VIII): The Autobahn - Page 4
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virpi
Germany3599 Posts
It's a strange mixture between fear and exitement, when you're doing more than 250 km/h, especially in a car like that BMW. (it wasn't even loud inside the car, basically it felt like riding a train Luckily, no one got hurt during that experiment. | ||
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A2340
Canada106 Posts
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GeckoVOD
Germany814 Posts
On July 15 2012 12:22 Dagobert wrote: When? I did mine in 2004 and paid.. something like 1800. I used zatic's link to recalculate and it seems my memory didn't trick me too much. I did my license in 2004/2005 (Winter - Summer). I had to do 20 hours in total (driving), four of which were special tours (night/Autobahn). That plus anything listed THERE (not sure if they count in theory hours and the stuff you might buy to learn for the standardised tests) makes now 1120€ - I did pass both tests in my first attempt. Barely though, according to my tester, but that guy was an ass, sorry no way to phrase it differently. He had me driving around for almost two hours, which, iirc, was way too long, while making remarks how the students that he had on the same day all horribly failed and how youths nowadays are super careless and all. Might be that it was "cheaper" for me, because I live in a relatively rural area (Coburg/Bamberg) and my school used Autogas instead of Benzin/Diesel. I remember that one liter of Gas was about 0,60 € back then, almost half of which ordinary Benzin was. I also could go with the absolute minimum of praxis hours, because I actually knew how to drive before I got into their car. Pretty common to drive around here on private properties beforehand. That actually made it a lot easier to skip the whole "this is the steering wheel" intros. I also didn't have huge problems at traffic lights (absaufen) and I usually don't tend to panic when it doesn't work. However, my teacher got a heart attack in my first lesson so to speak. Almost at least. He told me where to go, which I completely hated. So we were going about 90 km/h on a ordinary road when he told me we would turn left soon. Coincidentally 70 meters ahaed there was a small road leading to nowhere. I got into my breaks 'cause I thought he meant THAT road, but well no, he didn't. On a side note: I really hate people that drive faster than 180 km/h on the Autobahn. That's just careless, don't tell me you could possible react fast enough or keep enough overview to safely slow down before shit happens. Those people tend to yell at other drivers that try to overtake with significantly slower cars. I try to avoid these situations with my old Toyota, but well... there's only so much you can do. Usually cars that do more than 220 km/h tend to come out of nowhere - there are hills, slopes, etc. And it's fucking scary to watch your mirror just to see these flashes coming closer and closer, starting to tailgate around 150-180 km/h. Uncool. Imho, most of these retards also have the bonus to drive tanks, literally tanks, if there IS an accident these cars can endure so much, while people in other cars are prolly fucked beyond any hope. It's kinda easy to underestimate the enegery high speed means and the potential damage they WILL cause in accidents. | ||
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JonsaBoy
Denmark457 Posts
(he did sneak up to 180 while she was sleeping once . That was fun. Unfortunately she somehow felt it and woke up) | ||
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Zudimi
Germany83 Posts
Do you live there? | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
I'll probably never forget that awesome moment: 1 am, Monday morning, A555 - not a single car on the road, went up to 313 km/h (195 mp/h)On July 15 2012 02:14 Tppz! wrote: If there is space and there are ppl driving faster you should drive on the most right lane possible. Its your fault dude not theirs. They are just mad cause you are doing it wrong People that stick on the left are annoying, but there is no excuse for overtaking on the right. It's pretty much the most dangerously retarded thing you can do (next to tailgating and switching lanes without looking in the mirror). On July 15 2012 02:56 butter wrote: What a senseless waste of fossil fuel. On July 15 2012 22:10 ACrow wrote: It's unsafe, it's a waste of fuel, it's a shame it's one of the few things foreigners know about Germany. Should really be 130km/h fixed speed limit imo. The general consensus is that a general speed limit on the autobahn would not result in a noticeable reduction of accidents. The accident statistics of the past then years have shown that the autobahns are the safest roads by a large margin anyway. Not to mention that dangerous sections of the autobahn are already regulated with speed limits. Furthermore, electronic speed limit signs that introduce/remove the speed limit depending on traffic and weather are introduced more often and increase the safety on the road. As far as waste of fuel is concerned, a general speed limit is in fact expected to reduce fuel consumption, however only by a negligable amount. There is absolutely no reason to push for a general speed limit on the autobahn. Also a funny fact, our family's Audi gets at least 18 mpg when accelarating and/or maxing out at 210 km/h. My host's Dodge Ram (when I was in the US) was getting at best 13-14 mpg when driving 50-60 mp/h. A ridiculous Ford truck (I believe F-350) was showing 7 mpg when I was passanger in it once... On July 15 2012 06:21 Lorizean wrote: That for one. Most of the time you cannot drive as fast as you would want anyways because there are just too many ppl on the autobahn. [...] Other scary thing is people not properly checking the left lane before overtaking or not realizing your speed as you come up. Had to break quite hard a few times. I rarely go beyond 130 km/h because the traffic is so dense normally. But even then people that are stupid enough not to look in the mirror when switching lanes are a pain in the ass. Every now and then I have to jump on the brakes because some retard decides to suddenly pull left when going around 80 km/h, of course those people wouldn't use their turn signals and would cut right in front of you. Those are certainly the most dangerous drivers on the autobahn, simply because even a speed limit wouldn't make the roads safe from their stupidity... | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
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zatic
Zurich15366 Posts
On July 16 2012 04:14 Salv wrote: I don't know how some people here have driven 200+ kmph on a highway, anytime my car (2006 Toyota Corolla) gets to about 130/140 I can feel that I have a lot less control, especially if it's even moderately windy outside. Going anything past 150 seems really, really dangerous and scary even if the highway was empty. German engineering | ||
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Lorizean
Germany1330 Posts
On July 16 2012 04:14 Salv wrote: I don't know how some people here have driven 200+ kmph on a highway, anytime my car (2006 Toyota Corolla) gets to about 130/140 I can feel that I have a lot less control, especially if it's even moderately windy outside. Going anything past 150 seems really, really dangerous and scary even if the highway was empty. Thats because your car was not built to handle those high speeds. I definitely agree that driving a small car at high speeds is dangerous, as you don't have as much control and the car will veer all over the place. But believe me, it makes a huge difference to be in a big car thats built for such speeds (think larger BMWs, Mercedes and Audis). You barely notice the speed, meaning the car is still easy to control and you won't be having problems driving straight. I would personally never go beyond 180 or so in a smaller car, too unsafe. People who have never driven in a car like this have a hard time believing that there are cars where such high speeds can be handled, but if you get a chance just try it out I cannot speak for high-end sports cars like Ferraris, never driven anything like that. I'd imagine they are harder to control. | ||
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chrisolo
Germany2610 Posts
On July 16 2012 04:14 Salv wrote: I don't know how some people here have driven 200+ kmph on a highway, anytime my car (2006 Toyota Corolla) gets to about 130/140 I can feel that I have a lot less control, especially if it's even moderately windy outside. Going anything past 150 seems really, really dangerous and scary even if the highway was empty. Well, german highways are built to drive fast on them and most of the german drivers are experienced enough to drive at that speed. Thus it is not as dangerous to go that fast in Germany, then in f.e. the US. I was once on a interstate in the US and I would not drive on it any faster then 140 or something, because it is much tighter and much more curvy. Even if the Autobahn only needs to change the direction by some angle (literally 4-5 °), the length of the route will be like 5-6 km. You only really need to use your steering wheel for changing lanes. Everything (and even changing lanes to a certain degree) you can do by just focussing on the lane you drive. F.e. driving these curves, you do not actually move the steering wheel by fully purpose, but much more by the "subconsciousness" (while still moving it, you do not really realize it). Dunno how to write it down correctly, but most of the germans will know what I mean. Also if you go often in speeds like that, you get a experience and the feeling for it. For myself I feel really safe driving up to 200 km/h, but I start to feel uncomfortable from this mark on. But this is just a matter of experience and since I do not actually own a car that can go so fast, it will not improve so fast. But it aint that dangerous as it may seem for foreigners. The only time I remember, where I was really lucky to not cause a crash, was while getting mad, because of a dumb idiot flashing me all the time. This is the only real dangerous about the Autobahn, the dumb idiotic retards on the Autobahn. And to be quite honest, there are too many of them. But this is a problem of getting the license way too easy (imho). | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
One of my greatest regrets from when I was in Germany was that I only went on the Autobahn once, and I couldn't drive. | ||
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Catch]22
Sweden2683 Posts
Confirmed to also work with Volvos and SAABS | ||
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Lorizean
Germany1330 Posts
On July 16 2012 04:35 chrisolo wrote: The only time I remember, where I was really lucky to not cause a crash, was while getting mad, because of a dumb idiot flashing me all the time. This is the only real dangerous about the Autobahn, the dumb idiotic retards on the Autobahn. And to be quite honest, there are too many of them. But this is a problem of getting the license way too easy (imho). Woah, guys flashing you all the time is pretty dangerous, I'll give you that  On a serious note: I don't think you can really fix that with making the driving license harder to get, douchebags will be douchebags. Personally I like to drive fast and I do get annoyed when people hog the left lane for no apparent reason, but I'll never tailgate and only flash my lights once at most if I think that the person has not noticed me (this happens sometimes, people just forget to look in their rear view mirror). | ||
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Zetter
Germany629 Posts
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aqui
Germany1023 Posts
On July 16 2012 04:35 chrisolo wrote: Well, german highways are built to drive fast on them and most of the german drivers are experienced enough to drive at that speed. Thus it is not as dangerous to go that fast in Germany, then in f.e. the US. I was once on a interstate in the US and I would not drive on it any faster then 140 or something, because it is much tighter and much more curvy. Even if the Autobahn only needs to change the direction by some angle (literally 4-5 °), the length of the route will be like 5-6 km. You only really need to use your steering wheel for changing lanes. Everything (and even changing lanes to a certain degree) you can do by just focussing on the lane you drive. F.e. driving these curves, you do not actually move the steering wheel by fully purpose, but much more by the "subconsciousness" (while still moving it, you do not really realize it). Dunno how to write it down correctly, but most of the germans will know what I mean. Also if you go often in speeds like that, you get a experience and the feeling for it. For myself I feel really safe driving up to 200 km/h, but I start to feel uncomfortable from this mark on. But this is just a matter of experience and since I do not actually own a car that can go so fast, it will not improve so fast. But it aint that dangerous as it may seem for foreigners. The only time I remember, where I was really lucky to not cause a crash, was while getting mad, because of a dumb idiot flashing me all the time. This is the only real dangerous about the Autobahn, the dumb idiotic retards on the Autobahn. And to be quite honest, there are too many of them. But this is a problem of getting the license way too easy (imho). It is for me like that too, driving up to about 200 kmh feels similar to slower speeds and you don't need to focus on the driving ( only on the traffic). At speeds higher than that i feel like i have to focus to steer steady. I only drove 250 once, at that speed the traffic feels scary as you have to trust the other drivers to drive properly. If you are 130 kmh faster than they and they pull some kind of BS you will have a hard time reacting without losing control (depends on experience i guess). | ||
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
On July 16 2012 05:40 Zetter wrote: I really hate driving onto the Autobahn, because everyone is driving so fast, but as soon as your on it, driving becomes really fun. I guess it's normal for every german to test the limits of his own car on the Autobahn at least once. (My small Corsa only gets up to 190 though )Don't know where you live and what Autobahn you are driving but most of the time I am driving I only encounter people driving 100-150 km/h. Ocasionally you have the fast drivers with 200+ km/h, but they definitely are the exception. I'd love to drive faster (I mostly keep 120 km/h) but gas is just so expensive | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On July 16 2012 04:14 Salv wrote: I don't know how some people here have driven 200+ kmph on a highway, anytime my car (2006 Toyota Corolla) gets to about 130/140 I can feel that I have a lot less control, especially if it's even moderately windy outside. Going anything past 150 seems really, really dangerous and scary even if the highway was empty. when u start driving, anything past 80 feels scary. its just about experience, and when u live here u are naturally used to those speeds. its not like everyone has the cars to drive that fast, but if i had, i would def drive like that just to have some fun occasionally :D the fastest i drove was 190 with my dads car. i feel like with a car that can go to 250, 190 wouldnt feel as scary. my own car would explode at 155 (fiat cinquecento - ye, my first and beloved starter car^^), so i drive at 140 constantly, which feels like 180 with my dads car simply because its so hard to control that little thing :D I love to pass cars that are worth about 1000 of my own, but seem to not need their car since they keep driving 120 for no reason. | ||
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Zetter
Germany629 Posts
On July 16 2012 06:26 Ange777 wrote: Don't know where you live and what Autobahn you are driving but most of the time I am driving I only encounter people driving 100-150 km/h. Ocasionally you have the fast drivers with 200+ km/h, but they definitely are the exception. I'd love to drive faster (I mostly keep 120 km/h) but gas is just so expensive Yes, gas is really expensive, I almost never drive more than 140. My problem with driving onto the Autobahn is just that even if the people are only driving 100, I need a long time to catch up with my 65 horsepowers. :p So it really can be a drag if you have to drive onto a more crowded Autobahn like A7. | ||
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Xan
Norway257 Posts
I have only been a passenger on the autobahn , but i think my brother did about 230-235km/h driving our Audi A6 with a skibox on top and 3 bicycles on the back. Gotta admit thats even just as a passenger it was kinda awesome. He rarely went above 180 though usually. Here at home the roads are horrible and the highest limit within a 5 hour drive is 80km/h. I think the highest i've done is 140 when speeding to reach a local ferry. In general doing anything over 100 will lose you your licence and ain't safe because of the roads anyways. | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
On July 16 2012 04:30 Lorizean wrote: Thats because your car was not built to handle those high speeds. I definitely agree that driving a small car at high speeds is dangerous, as you don't have as much control and the car will veer all over the place. But believe me, it makes a huge difference to be in a big car thats built for such speeds (think larger BMWs, Mercedes and Audis). You barely notice the speed, meaning the car is still easy to control and you won't be having problems driving straight. I would personally never go beyond 180 or so in a smaller car, too unsafe. People who have never driven in a car like this have a hard time believing that there are cars where such high speeds can be handled, but if you get a chance just try it out I cannot speak for high-end sports cars like Ferraris, never driven anything like that. I'd imagine they are harder to control. I'll take your word for it. My fiancee drives an old Dodge Neon and I have a Toyota Corolla so I'm only used to small vehicles, I've never even been in a Mercedes or BMW, that would be an explanation though, that they can handle the speeds better. | ||
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