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Who's the best Protoss Player in North America?

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Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 22:07:54
July 09 2012 19:22 GMT
#1
Who's the best Protoss Player in North America? American Zergs can cheer for Sheth and Idra, Terrans can root for the newcomer Quantic Illusion, but who should American Tosses shower their plaudits upon?

I initially imagined a top ten power ranking. Then I cut it down to a top 5. Then a top 3. But comparing a Losers Bracket Round 6 loss to a 7th place in tournament qualifier is pointless. Only one American Protoss has achieved anything of note recently. So, I'm going to list a few honorable mentions then name that player.

Please note, if you consider Huk a North American Protoss, he is clearly the best. Consider this blog an explanation of who is #2.

Honorable Mentions

  • Desrow. Trained extensively in Korea before recently returning to Canada. Arguably the best player, but it seems unfair to crown him the King until he puts in the results.

  • Ddoro. The second most accomplished player. Qualified for MLG's Winter Arena through a NA qualifier. Had a short road to the Championship Bracket during MLG's Winter Championship, but shocked the unconventional Zerg Sleep to make it in.

  • Gatored. The only American Protoss to show he could compete at the highest level. Astoundingly, he beat Strelok, TOP and DongRaeGu at IEM NY. However, because of a focus on school, has disappeared in 2012.

  • State. Average results in MLG OB. A recent second place in a local LAN. But his play shows potential.

  • Incontrol. A solid stretch of MLG OBLR6 finishes from running from late 2011 to early 2012. Intriguing recent win against Thorzain. Also took a map from Real at HSCV.





So. Who's the best? I could try to slather on some drama, but you've already scrolled down and seen the picture, haven't you?

Axslav

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I guess you've earned the right to be smug, Ax. You made it to the CB for both the Spring and Winter Championships, beating players like Idra (after EG dropped you), Illusion, Minigun, Theognis, and Ostojiy. You also took second in MSI Battlegrounds, notably beating State and Beastyqt. Throw in some solid performances in qualifiers, and you're hands down the best Toss in NA.

But what do you think?


Poll: Who is the best Toss in NA

Axslav (18)
 
35%

Minigun (15)
 
29%

Nony (7)
 
14%

Desrow (3)
 
6%

Other (please specify) (3)
 
6%

DDoro (2)
 
4%

Incontrol (1)
 
2%

State (1)
 
2%

Cruncher (1)
 
2%

Yata (0)
 
0%

Attero (0)
 
0%

Gatored (0)
 
0%

51 total votes

Your vote: Who is the best Toss in NA

(Vote): Desrow
(Vote): Incontrol
(Vote): Yata
(Vote): State
(Vote): Minigun
(Vote): Attero
(Vote): DDoro
(Vote): Gatored
(Vote): Cruncher
(Vote): Nony
(Vote): Axslav
(Vote): Other (please specify)



Edit: I forgot to mention TT1. With his performance in the NASL, he easily deserves to be mentioned here. In fact, considering his impressive NASL3 run, I believe he is currently #2 to Axslav.

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Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
July 09 2012 19:35 GMT
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Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10375 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 19:37:07
July 09 2012 19:36 GMT
#3
Chad "Motherfuckin" Jones :DDD

Isn't Minigun like rank 5 on GM right now?

EDIT: OH SHIT HE WORLD RANK 5 AND NA RANK 1 YEAH CHAD!
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
July 09 2012 19:42 GMT
#4
When nony is in form he is an absolute beast, but in current form it is probably axslav or minigun.
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MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
July 09 2012 19:47 GMT
#5
Well Canada is part of North America so Huk. And if Huk doesn't count then Kiwikaki
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JimSocks
Profile Joined February 2009
United States968 Posts
July 09 2012 19:55 GMT
#6
Huk
AKomrade
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States582 Posts
July 09 2012 19:55 GMT
#7
I was about to be all like WTFWHEREISAXSLAV.

But then I saw.



Its kind of funny though. You can rattle off like a trillion good NA Zerg, but T and P is really a headscratcher past the obvious.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
July 09 2012 19:56 GMT
#8
On July 10 2012 04:42 Jaaaaasper wrote:
When nony is in form he is an absolute beast, but in current form it is probably axslav or minigun.


In BW sure, in sc2 he has yet to prove he is.
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CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 19:58:43
July 09 2012 19:58 GMT
#9
HuK for sure, if he still counts. If he doesn't count, Ranged is really damn good.
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
July 09 2012 20:14 GMT
#10
Isn't HuK from NA?
I'd consider him the best by far.
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SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
July 09 2012 20:23 GMT
#11
Well since the thread says IN NA not from I think Huk would be considered In Korea, Though I think he is at the EG Lair atm so when he is here it's him when he is gone it's either Axslav or NonY
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Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
July 09 2012 20:27 GMT
#12
I would say Huk, but it is obvious you aren´t counting him on purpose (understandably)


Going by Best (and not most accomplished) I would say Nony, he is sick even tough he barely practice, and he is really the go to protoss to cheer for aswell.
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Profile Joined June 2012
Canada486 Posts
July 09 2012 21:12 GMT
#13
Minigun or huk
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
July 09 2012 21:25 GMT
#14
Great write up! :D

I would have to say our top protoss players excluding Huk, would be Axslav and Minigun. I liked the honorable mentions I would say, Yata, Gatored, desRow, State, Nony and iNcontrol are all around the same level. Of course there are other players right below them that are just waiting to have a break out performance to show their skills. I'm most looking forward to seeing if anyone else can jump up and show their skills by the end of 2012!
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45614 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 21:45:07
July 09 2012 21:40 GMT
#15
On July 10 2012 04:47 MattBarry wrote:
Well Canada is part of North America so Huk. And if Huk doesn't count then Kiwikaki


HuK has dual-citizenship in both the U.S. and Canada, so he's NA anyway

HuK by a mile, unless he wants to consider himself a Korean because he's been practicing in Korea for so long (is he still there and not in the EG house)?

If not HuK, then I don't know. Huge round robin between everyone mentioned.

EDIT: We all forgot about TT1. Might be him.
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 22:01:41
July 09 2012 22:00 GMT
#16
On July 10 2012 04:56 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 04:42 Jaaaaasper wrote:
When nony is in form he is an absolute beast, but in current form it is probably axslav or minigun.


In BW sure, in sc2 he has yet to prove he is.

To be fair, he was really good in beta, and had a bunch of good mlg runs after that, he has just been streaky and never in top form since beta, but he has shown flashes of briliiance, so i think he would top this list when he is in form, but that may never happen ;_;,
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Edit:
Also yeah, tt1 hasn't been doing many tournaments, but he looked really strong in nasl, so he has to be mentioned in this.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
July 09 2012 22:09 GMT
#17
On July 10 2012 06:40 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 04:47 MattBarry wrote:
Well Canada is part of North America so Huk. And if Huk doesn't count then Kiwikaki


HuK has dual-citizenship in both the U.S. and Canada, so he's NA anyway

HuK by a mile, unless he wants to consider himself a Korean because he's been practicing in Korea for so long (is he still there and not in the EG house)?

If not HuK, then I don't know. Huge round robin between everyone mentioned.

EDIT: We all forgot about TT1. Might be him.




Great call on TT1 DarkPlasmaBall. For whatever reason, he slipped my mind. I believe he's a close #2 to Axslav, but you could definitely argue it.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
July 09 2012 22:15 GMT
#18
Probably dragOn or dRaW. Jumper might be up there, but he's clearly out of shape, and oh...

...SC2.
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 09 2012 23:46 GMT
#19
When I opened the thread I'm thinking "This guy is so uninformed, Axslav is the best", but apparently you know it too ^^
Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
July 10 2012 00:00 GMT
#20
axslav has had the best results i believe.
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Edahspmal
Profile Joined October 2010
United States156 Posts
July 10 2012 00:40 GMT
#21
probably TT1 or Minigun, but as soon as HotS rolls around, KiWiKaKi will rise to the top once more with his sick new builds
Payson
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States394 Posts
July 10 2012 01:12 GMT
#22
NonY of course =P Once he gets back into form, he'll be the Protoss foreigner we need After seeing him get Top 16 at WCS @ Anaheim, I'm hoping he'll have a fantastic performance for WCS come Raleigh in August.


As by results, Axslav and HuK have had by far the best results over the last few months, Desrow is looking to be on the rise after his stay in Korea, Minigun is currently Rank #1 on GM with an insane amount of games thus far and is heading down to Houston to train in the coL house, and I'd really like to see Gatored play more actively again (when was the last time he played in a major tournament?).
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
July 10 2012 01:24 GMT
#23
In terms of American players I would put Ranged and Insur in the top 5 right now. They were the two highest placing protosses in WCS USA.

Very hard to pick an overall best though. Probably would have to go with Axslav in terms of overall results+overall most well rounded player.
Sc2Corpse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States210 Posts
July 12 2012 09:35 GMT
#24
I voted for Minigun.

But that is only because Huk wasn't on there (;
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