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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
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theBALLS
Singapore2935 Posts
On July 10 2012 01:21 Kukaracha wrote: Well, if she's just paid to be a pretty face, then I guess this kind of accidents are to be expected. Don't be an asshole. | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
"Pretty faces" have little to no weight in companies, and they are commonly preyed upon, like all the backstage "guests" who are there for vague reasons. If you're an employee, such actions may have repercussions, and if you're in the management team it simply won't happen. But if you're just there to look nice and for "public relations", then you should be careful about people's attitude and kindness, that's all. | ||
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LaniBot
United States7 Posts
It's incredibly unfortunate something like that happened to you, BrightSide. They never should have booked a shared room with you and that guy. It's not professional. I hope you're OK, and hope that nothing like this happens again to you, or any woman in Esports. | ||
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Sabre
United Kingdom1086 Posts
On July 09 2012 17:30 sc4k wrote: Yeah, seriously. This could have got very rapey. You are in some ways lucky he backed off. Silly silly choice and many girls need a good dose of survival sense. completely agree. This could have turned out far worse than it did. It's still a disgusting thing to do in either case | ||
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HardlyNever
United States1258 Posts
So yeah... what the others said. This went bad, but could have went much worse. Ask for your own room up front next time, there is no harm in asking. | ||
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ICCup.Tesla
United States841 Posts
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
On July 10 2012 02:08 SabreUK wrote: completely agree. This could have turned out far worse than it did. It's still a disgusting thing to do in either case Entirely disagree. Sounds like a guy that didn't get it at all, but not a rapist. I'm sure it wasn't a pleasant experience but it doesn't sound like she was in danger, just with an asshole. Also from the way she describes her story it's her to tell how she said no to him. Some people definitely need a harsh no to get the point, and maybe he was one of those. | ||
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yoshi_yoshi
United States440 Posts
"I'm tired, let's stop talking and go to sleep" "Please stop talking and let me sleep" "WTH man, stop talking" I have a hard time picturing how the guy would continue for 10+ times if you were direct with him. Were you actually answering his questions each time when he woke you up to ask you? I'm trying to think what my wife would do and there is no way she wouldn't turn on bitch-mode after 1 or 2 back and forths. The second night is even less understandable. Given everything from the previous day, when he first touched you how could you not jump up and yell at him (I know you've acknowledged this)? Overall, I think sometimes it's obvious that some guys just don't 'get it', and it's not out of line to talk to these people in very direct terms. You can't expect a nice answer to work the 8th time you say it when it did nothing the first 7 times. | ||
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Xyik
Canada728 Posts
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VampireLady
Netherlands283 Posts
On July 10 2012 10:04 Xyik wrote: I don't understand how some girls can be so naive. Indeed sir, not to attack anyone or to blame.. but in a community predominantly outweighed by men, chances are even higher for such incidents to occur. Women are generally subject to sexual harrassment especially in these sort of environments. There have been numerous studies stating the numbers and they are all pretty shocking and disturbing. I think as fun as the community can be at the end keep at the back of your mind that you're a woman and sharing a room with a guy whom you barely know may not be the wisest idea to take. | ||
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B.I.G.
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B.I.G.
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Chill
Calgary25998 Posts
On July 11 2012 01:17 VampireLady wrote: Indeed sir, not to attack anyone or to blame.. but in a community predominantly outweighed by men, chances are even higher for such incidents to occur. Women are generally subject to sexual harrassment especially in these sort of environments. There have been numerous studies stating the numbers and they are all pretty shocking and disturbing. I think as fun as the community can be at the end keep at the back of your mind that you're a woman and sharing a room with a guy whom you barely know may not be the wisest idea to take. Cite sources please. It sounds like you just made stuff up and then tacked on "numerous studies". | ||
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Parametric
Canada1261 Posts
On July 11 2012 01:17 VampireLady wrote: Indeed sir, not to attack anyone or to blame.. but in a community predominantly outweighed by men, chances are even higher for such incidents to occur. Women are generally subject to sexual harrassment especially in these sort of environments. There have been numerous studies stating the numbers and they are all pretty shocking and disturbing. I think as fun as the community can be at the end keep at the back of your mind that you're a woman and sharing a room with a guy whom you barely know may not be the wisest idea to take. + Show Spoiler + Have you seen what men have to endure? They get their head phones stolen all the time from girls staying in their rooms. IT'S A TRAVESTY, there have been numerous studies showing the head phone theft rate is shocking and disturbingly high. TBH this blog sounds a little naive in staying with someone who's basically a stranger; you yourself said it took you awhile to find out he wasn't even a gamer. Sorry for your experience in general but i'm glad that the worst experience you have to share is losing some sleep because of a weirdo. Also if you wanted sleep you should've acted all PMS and then told him you were on your period when he asked why you were so mad. Disclaimer: There are some jokes in this post, don't go Romanian on me. | ||
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VampireLady
Netherlands283 Posts
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-11-07/us/us_school-sexual-harassment_1_sexual-harassment-unwelcome-sexual-comments-verbal-harassment?_s=PM:US http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/one-in-four-u-s-women-reports-workplace-harassment/ . According to a European studie ( 1998 pag. 15,16) roughly 30 % upto 50 % women encounter unwanted sexual advances and 10 % of the men at the workplace. Source: http://www.un.org/womenwatch/osagi/pdf/shworkpl.pdf I have read a lot in papers, this is just a quick google result. Not too hard.. just reading the morning paper will suffice. | ||
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farvacola
United States18858 Posts
On July 11 2012 02:56 VampireLady wrote: Let's start off with early school years.. http://articles.cnn.com/2011-11-07/us/us_school-sexual-harassment_1_sexual-harassment-unwelcome-sexual-comments-verbal-harassment?_s=PM:US http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/one-in-four-u-s-women-reports-workplace-harassment/ . According to a European studie ( 1998 pag. 15,16) roughly 30 % upto 50 % women encounter unwanted sexual advances and 10 % of the men at the workplace. Source: http://www.un.org/womenwatch/osagi/pdf/shworkpl.pdf I have read a lot in papers, this is just a quick google result. Not too hard.. just reading the morning paper will suffice. That abc article complicates matters rather dramatically and takes away from your point I think. Overall, harassment has seen a decrease since the time of the European study you offered forth, which is neither shocking nor disturbing. I agree that harassment is a huge issue, but arguing with hyperbole isn't a good way to get your point across. I won't even get into the possibility of errors in these reports, this is an issue simply too sticky for TL methinks. | ||
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VampireLady
Netherlands283 Posts
Besides the fact that these types of reports have been made in numerous countries over the course of years really, another huge factor is that a lot of these incidents aren't even reported or waved off as "masculine behaviour'. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
I've heard a lot of people [ mostly girls ] describe their sleepy state like this and its just like reading about an alien or strange animal found in a exotic country. I've been up for 24-72 hour periods before and even at my most tired and exhausted I don't know how you could kinda allow this to happen. Just being around other humans in general and then encountering people like this who for some unknown reason get knocked the fuck out by ' tiredness ' is really unbelievable to me. Totally aside from the fact that this guy is a douchebag, I don't think this serves as a warning or help to average girls at all because they wouldn't come out of this thinking they were ' too nice '. Or that they somehow telepathically were giving off no signals since they were wearing conservative pjs....according to their own opinion. As others have already mentioned: Bed count. Alone with some dude you don't really know or have been alone with for a long time. Saying explicitly what you think/feel to be wrong. Somehow thinking its ok to go round 2 with this guy after the first night..??? This is advice you'd give to like a 12 year old girl/daughter/sister......common sense. | ||
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Parametric
Canada1261 Posts
On July 11 2012 03:49 VampireLady wrote: Sure, there there can be found flaws in any reports but really in the course of time ive seen plenty come across.. Also, I don't know how you conclude it has seen a decrease but I personally don't believe that to be true. Besides the fact that these types of reports have been made in numerous countries over the course of years really, another huge factor is that a lot of these incidents aren't even reported or waved off as "masculine behaviour'. Read your second link | ||
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