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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 09:38:00
July 05 2012 09:36 GMT
#1
Started work earlier this week. Can't adjust to waking up at 6:30 every morning. It's too hard to adjust from sleeping at 3-4 every morning to sleeping around midnight. Need much help. Spent the last couple days sleeping at like 2 or 3 and just napping as I got home. Then July 4th rolled around and I got like 11 hours of sleep, thus completely screwing up my schedule again.

4:30 as I type this. FML

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God Bless
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
July 05 2012 09:39 GMT
#2
Im nocturnal by nature too... When i gotta get up early. I slowly work around to it from the other end... Staying up later and later until im sleeping at like 5pm... Then its natural to get up early... But youve kinda fucked it up already... Midweek and getting no sleepm.. Rough
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 05 2012 09:42 GMT
#3
bad Roffles, bad
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MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
July 05 2012 09:56 GMT
#4
try sleeping longer than 6h30m a night? since i'm writing on my masters thesis and don't have to get up at any specific time as i work from home, i currently don't use an alarm at all. On my own, i wake up somewhere between 7 and 9 hours sleep every day. I guess it's no problem pushing this down towards 7 hours a day using an alarm, but lowering even further is probably not good.

Now i don't know your natural sleep time, you might know it yourself or you shuold try to find out by going a week without alarm (although you probably can't do that anymore now that you need to be awake at certain times). But when you suddenly sleep 11 hours if you just don't have your alarm set for one day, i would strongly suspect that you just sleep to short every day.

To adjust your sleep starting time: I find staying up longer is usually easier than sleeping earlier, you might just want to not sleep one night at all and then go to sleep one day later at the proper time (or maybe a bit earlier to allow some catching up on the lost night). Ideally do this before the weekend (if you have those free) so you have two days to use for adapting and normalizing. What certainly doesn't work is just going to sleep 6 hours earlier than usual and then sticking with it. You need to at least gradually adjust it like one or two hours a day over the course of a week, if you want to go by the sleeping earlier instead of staying awake through a whole night.

other than that, check the search here, i remember a bunch of good threads about sleeping, insomnia etc. on TL, read those and see what tips you can find there
Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
July 05 2012 10:20 GMT
#5
On July 05 2012 18:56 MisterD wrote:
try sleeping longer than 6h30m a night? since i'm writing on my masters thesis and don't have to get up at any specific time as i work from home, i currently don't use an alarm at all. On my own, i wake up somewhere between 7 and 9 hours sleep every day. I guess it's no problem pushing this down towards 7 hours a day using an alarm, but lowering even further is probably not good.

Now i don't know your natural sleep time, you might know it yourself or you shuold try to find out by going a week without alarm (although you probably can't do that anymore now that you need to be awake at certain times). But when you suddenly sleep 11 hours if you just don't have your alarm set for one day, i would strongly suspect that you just sleep to short every day.

To adjust your sleep starting time: I find staying up longer is usually easier than sleeping earlier, you might just want to not sleep one night at all and then go to sleep one day later at the proper time (or maybe a bit earlier to allow some catching up on the lost night). Ideally do this before the weekend (if you have those free) so you have two days to use for adapting and normalizing. What certainly doesn't work is just going to sleep 6 hours earlier than usual and then sticking with it. You need to at least gradually adjust it like one or two hours a day over the course of a week, if you want to go by the sleeping earlier instead of staying awake through a whole night.

other than that, check the search here, i remember a bunch of good threads about sleeping, insomnia etc. on TL, read those and see what tips you can find there

How do you stay regulated without any external demands? I don't think it's possible for me to limit myself to <10 hours if I don't have something I HAVE to get up for.

Usually if my sleep schedule isn't working for when I need to get up I'll just sleep at my usual (late time), wake up tired, force myself not to take naps, and then go to bed at a sane time for when I need to get up.
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
July 05 2012 10:28 GMT
#6
It's impossible for me to sleep early every day. I tried really hard for almost a year because my wife has to sleep at 11:30pm every day. Then I reverted to my natural sleeping schedule which is 2:30am-9am.
And also because if I sleep at 11:30, when am I supposed to play BW ?

And nighttime rules, everything feels so quite and soothing.

Sorry if my post doesn't really help you
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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
July 05 2012 11:05 GMT
#7
I'm really jetlagged, I usually sleep around midnight, wake up at 3am and just lie there waiting for morning.
No I'm never serious.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 05 2012 11:07 GMT
#8
All I want to do is sleep Z_Z
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
July 05 2012 11:35 GMT
#9
I'm in exactly the same position right now.
Trying to tough it out and go without sleep for 24. Oh dear.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
July 05 2012 11:37 GMT
#10
Take some medication that makes you drowsy to help you fall asleep. A little bit won't kill you, but don't keep taking it everyday.
=Þ
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 05 2012 12:01 GMT
#11
I've heard not eating for a 16 hour period before you want to wake up helps. I've never tried it though.

Another thing you can do is exercise and expose yourself to daylight as much you can during the day, and then at night use flux on your computer to get you sleepy by exposing you to higher-wavelength light. Actually works quite well for me.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
July 05 2012 12:16 GMT
#12
adjusting sleep schedules a few hours earlier like that is also hell for me, sooooo hard to do

way harder than intercontinental jetlag which can be fixed easily by staying up till ur flight, sleeping on plane, and getting drunk upon arrival
why so 진지해?
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
July 05 2012 12:21 GMT
#13
Wow. Unlike most people here, I am not a nocturnal person. I am just like Sea: sleep at midnight, wake up at 6-7 AM. I love sunlight
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 13:09:55
July 05 2012 13:04 GMT
#14
=P
Welcome to old man life.

*edit: oops sorry, missed the "need much help" phrase from the OP. Tough it out for the first week, and by the second week your body will auto-sleep at midnight. Less rage less whine more acceptance do it sir raffles!
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
July 05 2012 13:44 GMT
#15
On July 05 2012 21:01 Aerisky wrote:
I've heard not eating for a 16 hour period before you want to wake up helps. I've never tried it though.

Another thing you can do is exercise and expose yourself to daylight as much you can during the day, and then at night use flux on your computer to get you sleepy by exposing you to higher-wavelength light. Actually works quite well for me.

Flux doesn't do anything besides lessen the strain on my eyes.
God Bless
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9642 Posts
July 05 2012 14:41 GMT
#16
I've been doing it for what seems likr forever. But I guess it comes pretty easy to me. It just takes time. Each day I go to sleep like an hour earlier until I get to the desired point. Something key is to not play videogames past like, ten. Shit gets your brain going too much, makes it tougher to sleep. Alsoi don't use any electronics in your bed, whether its not time or not.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9642 Posts
July 05 2012 14:51 GMT
#17
Also, napping is just going to fuck you every time. Don't get me wrong, usually totally worth it. But you'll have to accept adjusting your expectations for bed time and deal with the consequences.
Lokk
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 05 2012 14:53 GMT
#18
wow so lucky have job!!
@Lokk_2/Go Woori 우리
MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
July 05 2012 15:28 GMT
#19
On July 05 2012 19:20 Loser777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 18:56 MisterD wrote:
try sleeping longer than 6h30m a night? since i'm writing on my masters thesis and don't have to get up at any specific time as i work from home, i currently don't use an alarm at all. On my own, i wake up somewhere between 7 and 9 hours sleep every day. I guess it's no problem pushing this down towards 7 hours a day using an alarm, but lowering even further is probably not good.

Now i don't know your natural sleep time, you might know it yourself or you shuold try to find out by going a week without alarm (although you probably can't do that anymore now that you need to be awake at certain times). But when you suddenly sleep 11 hours if you just don't have your alarm set for one day, i would strongly suspect that you just sleep to short every day.

To adjust your sleep starting time: I find staying up longer is usually easier than sleeping earlier, you might just want to not sleep one night at all and then go to sleep one day later at the proper time (or maybe a bit earlier to allow some catching up on the lost night). Ideally do this before the weekend (if you have those free) so you have two days to use for adapting and normalizing. What certainly doesn't work is just going to sleep 6 hours earlier than usual and then sticking with it. You need to at least gradually adjust it like one or two hours a day over the course of a week, if you want to go by the sleeping earlier instead of staying awake through a whole night.

other than that, check the search here, i remember a bunch of good threads about sleeping, insomnia etc. on TL, read those and see what tips you can find there

How do you stay regulated without any external demands? I don't think it's possible for me to limit myself to <10 hours if I don't have something I HAVE to get up for.


i don't regulate anything. I go to bed somewhere between 1 and 3 am depending on how many new posts the funny pictures thread has (and various other content ), and just wake up the next morning, after what turns out to be 7 to 9 hours of having slept. sometimes 10 or 11 if i have to catch up a bit, but basically that's it. i guess the important part is to not stay awake until you are completely tired, but to just keep a semi regular go to bed time. I *could* stay up another two or three hours longer usually without feeling to tired, i'd probably sleep longer then, too, and drift into a 27 hour day routine or something like that, but i don't want that. so i just go to bed at around the same time every day and that works out fine. Sure, maybe i sleep an hour more per day than i have to, but not being woken up by an alarm every day is sooo much more relaxed x)

Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 05 2012 15:42 GMT
#20
On July 05 2012 22:44 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 21:01 Aerisky wrote:
I've heard not eating for a 16 hour period before you want to wake up helps. I've never tried it though.

Another thing you can do is exercise and expose yourself to daylight as much you can during the day, and then at night use flux on your computer to get you sleepy by exposing you to higher-wavelength light. Actually works quite well for me.

Flux doesn't do anything besides lessen the strain on my eyes.

Ah, I see. It lessens the strain on my eyes too and but also helps me get sleepy as it gets darker.

Try exercising in the sunlight more, that can really straighten your sleep clock out and help you get tired so you can sleep earlier. I'm usually too lazy to go do so but if you build a regular pattern of just going for a short run or something like that, you can get healthier and help yourself sleep at night too. Another thing is not to take naps during the day if you can so you're tired earlier. Best of luck, hope the advice you get in the responses do help you out >.<
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
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