• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:02
CEST 07:02
KST 14:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting3[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent6Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO65.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)67Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up3PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition325.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)119
StarCraft 2
General
TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) IP For new Brazil servers for NA Players
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More
Brood War
General
Whose hotkey signature is this? BSL Season 21 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Any rep analyzer that shows resources situation? BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL20] Semifinal B [ASL20] Semifinal A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Current Meta BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training Siegecraft - a new perspective TvZ Theorycraft - Improving on State of the Art
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640} TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Men's Fashion Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Sex and weight loss US Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Inbreeding: Why Do We Do It…
Peanutsc
From Tilt to Ragequit:The Ps…
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1930 users

I had a dream... - Page 16

Blogs > mTwTT1
Post a Reply
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 20 Next All
Ingebrigtsen
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Norway343 Posts
May 23 2012 12:34 GMT
#301
how can you not mention Slayer as the most talented foreigner? he's 100% in korean tournaments O-O
"These animals should be rewarded for not being people... I hate people"
silverhand
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States91 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 14:19:45
May 23 2012 14:03 GMT
#302
Damn, that took me way back....before the days of SC, when War2 was the RTS of choice and Kali was where the top gamers played. Back before Mogkupo was part of the IN Clan...when a group of newbs that hung out on Katan's Lair joined forces to become the Pondering Peons. Yes we were the team everyone loved to beat and Mog was our fearless leader until he defected to join the IN Clan


But did you know? That B.net and other ladders would probably not exist today if it were not for Case's Ladder? Yes, before B.net, the only legitimate ladder around was Case's Ladder. It was where guys like Agent911, Tillerman, Maven, Mogkupo, INcinerate (the entire IN Clan for that matter), MekLarian (the father of build orders and a micro genius - his sapper play was years ahead of its time) all became big names.

Did you know? that team play was much more popular back then, with 2v2, 3v3, and 4v4 matches occurring with about the same regularity as 1v1's. Team matches were how talent was discovered mostly because there were no replays back then. Teams like the IN Clan, the Agents of Death (@AD), Sons of Shagrat, and even the Pondering Peons (plus tons of others I've left out) fought for dominance in the team ladders just as vigorously as we did on the 1v1 ladders.

Did you know? I have a printout from an old dot matrix printer of the first ever documented build orders in war2, done by MekLarian where he also divulges his secrets to sapper micro. To my knowledge there are only 2 known copies in existence, Hoping one day to be able to donate it to the eSports Hall of Fame.

Makes me want to fire up war2 again and see if Kali is still alive
/me ponders
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
May 23 2012 14:44 GMT
#303
ahh this is awesome. i fucking miss brood war.

on that note, first time i met u was during a clan war - it was on Rush Hour. PvT, you were still a random player then. i think you got really good shortly afterwards.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 14:49:49
May 23 2012 14:48 GMT
#304
On May 23 2012 14:48 Ilvy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2012 04:43 mTwTT1 wrote:
On May 23 2012 04:33 StarStruck wrote:
Who doesn't remember them if they've been around the block.

However, [pG] and ToT)( wasn't much of a rivalry at all man. I mean we're talking about totally different eras at the same time. Perhaps you meant popularity. We had a much bigger rivalry with them before the turn of the decade.


this was around the time tot was bought by pg, in the months previous to that there was alot of discussion on who the better team was and they played against each other in alot of team leagues


The time you talk about was already the downtime of [pG] and not anymore what it was ment to be, sponsoring was gone and players left for Poker :D.


Indeed <3.

I mean heck, a lot of your players were playing for other teams by then including Eri. -_-

On May 23 2012 14:06 UnceL wrote:
Draco and Blackman, two legends and heroes of my early brood war history


Draco could have made it. It's a shame he took his ball and went home.
UglyCow
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada9 Posts
May 23 2012 14:51 GMT
#305
TT1, reading the above brings back some great memories, from days long past! I remember a lot of those names, and losing to them on Kali, lol.

But it stirred up an old clantag from the Kali days, perhaps someone remembers who was on the team or what it stood for: \"/

Great entry!
UglyCow
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada9 Posts
May 23 2012 14:52 GMT
#306
Cases ladder!

Ahhh that was another good shot of nostalgia!
silverhand
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States91 Posts
May 23 2012 14:54 GMT
#307
I don't remember what it stood for, but I believe jester was on \"/ for some time
/me ponders
KenNage
Profile Joined May 2009
Chile885 Posts
May 23 2012 15:28 GMT
#308
Do you guys remember when JoSeZ beat BoxeR at WCG? lol


XD

i remember most of this, i specially laughed at that, a tvt on LT, josez spawinig at 9 boxer at 6 and getting owned by dropship play
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 15:45:38
May 23 2012 15:41 GMT
#309
Even more TL / BW history digging (two very fitting threads from Pillars who was named a few times in this thread):

Brief BW History from Pillars's point of view as of '08: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=71763

Massive picture thread by Pillars as of '08: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=71352

Enjoy!
fabulously
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway724 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 16:29:02
May 23 2012 16:25 GMT
#310
So many memories. Best read I have had in quite some time. Got the chills from reading about all this after all this years!
I used to be such a big fan of Sven, Slayer and SilentControl and of course Eriador.
Thanks a lot for sharing, TT1!
Welcome back ROOT-gaming - you were never forgotten <3
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
May 23 2012 17:02 GMT
#311
can someone clarify something for me?

is it said out loud times17 or ex17
(clan x17)
Liquid | SKT
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
May 23 2012 18:38 GMT
#312
god this brought back memories. I obviously don't go as far back as tt1, but man i remember a lot of these moments, and god, those photos at the end. OMG.
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
DeLoAdEr
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Japan527 Posts
May 23 2012 18:51 GMT
#313
Do you remember the time when a lot of korean pro gamers (TheMarine, NaDa, Yellow, XellOs, etc.) suddenly started destroying the WGTour ladder on smurf accounts? I remember NaDa having a sick record with like 95% win ratio. Also one foreign protoss player won a lot of PvTs vs. these guys. :D

The best thing was that they had to upload their replays to get ladder points, I remember watching almost all of those games.
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
May 23 2012 18:54 GMT
#314
Liquid´drone has some pretty epic stories somewhere in the TL vault about the early, early days of bw, should all check them out.
I remember about half of what has been mentioned but almost all of the players: suffered from ladder fear before it was invented and never really played, hence i could only follow the drama at TL and such places. Mondragon was/is my favorite player, and his epic comeback in TSL 2 was the best i´ve ever experienced in BW.
Great post TT1, thanks alot!
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
klutch7
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada10 Posts
May 23 2012 19:30 GMT
#315
This blog is absolutely bad ass. Truly a shining example as to why Starcraft has gone the distance. The community is just too awesome. I love hearing tales of the BW glory days, and all the talented players that were involved. GIVE ME MORE!!!
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
May 23 2012 19:33 GMT
#316
If you like to dig up old memories, you must have a read of the two great blogs by Guybrush

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=179930
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=181554

Format is pretty bad and messy, but once you get used to it it's amazing.
ॐ
iNviSible.yunO
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Germany211 Posts
May 23 2012 19:58 GMT
#317
loving this shit fisheye deserves his own paragraph
o.O''
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
May 23 2012 20:38 GMT
#318
On May 24 2012 04:58 iNviSible.yunO wrote:
loving this shit fisheye deserves his own paragraph


i wanted to talk about him but i didnt know wat to say =/
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
May 23 2012 20:51 GMT
#319
I have a confession to make: Most of the old players mentioned in your Blog i use for "fantasy teams" :$ right down to TLPD them, put them in certain race lines and all that crap.

The embarrassing part is that i do it often, sometimes daily -,-' I just can't help it. I fucking miss all the iconic players that didn't switch to SC2

This Blog is made of so much win, thanks TT1, your the best <3
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
UndoneJin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States438 Posts
May 23 2012 21:35 GMT
#320
Phew, there was a lot in this post. Entertaiing though. thanks man =D
I've been lost since the day I was born ----- You're gonna carry that weight
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 20 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Patches' TLMC21 Bash #2
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PartinGtheBigBoy 330
StarCraft: Brood War
sorry 84
Noble 61
yabsab 60
JulyZerg 44
Bale 37
NaDa 31
ajuk12(nOOB) 26
Icarus 7
League of Legends
JimRising 772
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K554
m0e_tv441
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0407
hungrybox292
Other Games
summit1g7449
Maynarde128
Tasteless47
NeuroSwarm32
Mew2King0
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL8089
Other Games
gamesdonequick2784
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH157
• practicex 29
• OhrlRock 2
• Kozan
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1482
• Lourlo1135
• Stunt450
Other Games
• WagamamaTV350
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
4h 59m
Soma vs Bisu
OSC
8h 59m
OSC
12h 59m
MaxPax vs Gerald
Solar vs Krystianer
PAPI vs Lemon
Ryung vs Moja
Nice vs NightPhoenix
Cham vs TBD
MaNa vs TriGGeR
PiGosaur Monday
18h 59m
OSC
1d 17h
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Safe House 2
4 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Safe House 2
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
EC S1
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.