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Ingebrigtsen
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Norway343 Posts
May 23 2012 12:34 GMT
#301
how can you not mention Slayer as the most talented foreigner? he's 100% in korean tournaments O-O
"These animals should be rewarded for not being people... I hate people"
silverhand
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States91 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 14:19:45
May 23 2012 14:03 GMT
#302
Damn, that took me way back....before the days of SC, when War2 was the RTS of choice and Kali was where the top gamers played. Back before Mogkupo was part of the IN Clan...when a group of newbs that hung out on Katan's Lair joined forces to become the Pondering Peons. Yes we were the team everyone loved to beat and Mog was our fearless leader until he defected to join the IN Clan


But did you know? That B.net and other ladders would probably not exist today if it were not for Case's Ladder? Yes, before B.net, the only legitimate ladder around was Case's Ladder. It was where guys like Agent911, Tillerman, Maven, Mogkupo, INcinerate (the entire IN Clan for that matter), MekLarian (the father of build orders and a micro genius - his sapper play was years ahead of its time) all became big names.

Did you know? that team play was much more popular back then, with 2v2, 3v3, and 4v4 matches occurring with about the same regularity as 1v1's. Team matches were how talent was discovered mostly because there were no replays back then. Teams like the IN Clan, the Agents of Death (@AD), Sons of Shagrat, and even the Pondering Peons (plus tons of others I've left out) fought for dominance in the team ladders just as vigorously as we did on the 1v1 ladders.

Did you know? I have a printout from an old dot matrix printer of the first ever documented build orders in war2, done by MekLarian where he also divulges his secrets to sapper micro. To my knowledge there are only 2 known copies in existence, Hoping one day to be able to donate it to the eSports Hall of Fame.

Makes me want to fire up war2 again and see if Kali is still alive
/me ponders
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
May 23 2012 14:44 GMT
#303
ahh this is awesome. i fucking miss brood war.

on that note, first time i met u was during a clan war - it was on Rush Hour. PvT, you were still a random player then. i think you got really good shortly afterwards.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 14:49:49
May 23 2012 14:48 GMT
#304
On May 23 2012 14:48 Ilvy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2012 04:43 mTwTT1 wrote:
On May 23 2012 04:33 StarStruck wrote:
Who doesn't remember them if they've been around the block.

However, [pG] and ToT)( wasn't much of a rivalry at all man. I mean we're talking about totally different eras at the same time. Perhaps you meant popularity. We had a much bigger rivalry with them before the turn of the decade.


this was around the time tot was bought by pg, in the months previous to that there was alot of discussion on who the better team was and they played against each other in alot of team leagues


The time you talk about was already the downtime of [pG] and not anymore what it was ment to be, sponsoring was gone and players left for Poker :D.


Indeed <3.

I mean heck, a lot of your players were playing for other teams by then including Eri. -_-

On May 23 2012 14:06 UnceL wrote:
Draco and Blackman, two legends and heroes of my early brood war history


Draco could have made it. It's a shame he took his ball and went home.
UglyCow
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada9 Posts
May 23 2012 14:51 GMT
#305
TT1, reading the above brings back some great memories, from days long past! I remember a lot of those names, and losing to them on Kali, lol.

But it stirred up an old clantag from the Kali days, perhaps someone remembers who was on the team or what it stood for: \"/

Great entry!
UglyCow
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada9 Posts
May 23 2012 14:52 GMT
#306
Cases ladder!

Ahhh that was another good shot of nostalgia!
silverhand
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States91 Posts
May 23 2012 14:54 GMT
#307
I don't remember what it stood for, but I believe jester was on \"/ for some time
/me ponders
KenNage
Profile Joined May 2009
Chile885 Posts
May 23 2012 15:28 GMT
#308
Do you guys remember when JoSeZ beat BoxeR at WCG? lol


XD

i remember most of this, i specially laughed at that, a tvt on LT, josez spawinig at 9 boxer at 6 and getting owned by dropship play
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 15:45:38
May 23 2012 15:41 GMT
#309
Even more TL / BW history digging (two very fitting threads from Pillars who was named a few times in this thread):

Brief BW History from Pillars's point of view as of '08: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=71763

Massive picture thread by Pillars as of '08: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=71352

Enjoy!
fabulously
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway724 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 16:29:02
May 23 2012 16:25 GMT
#310
So many memories. Best read I have had in quite some time. Got the chills from reading about all this after all this years!
I used to be such a big fan of Sven, Slayer and SilentControl and of course Eriador.
Thanks a lot for sharing, TT1!
Welcome back ROOT-gaming - you were never forgotten <3
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
May 23 2012 17:02 GMT
#311
can someone clarify something for me?

is it said out loud times17 or ex17
(clan x17)
Liquid | SKT
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
May 23 2012 18:38 GMT
#312
god this brought back memories. I obviously don't go as far back as tt1, but man i remember a lot of these moments, and god, those photos at the end. OMG.
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
DeLoAdEr
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Japan527 Posts
May 23 2012 18:51 GMT
#313
Do you remember the time when a lot of korean pro gamers (TheMarine, NaDa, Yellow, XellOs, etc.) suddenly started destroying the WGTour ladder on smurf accounts? I remember NaDa having a sick record with like 95% win ratio. Also one foreign protoss player won a lot of PvTs vs. these guys. :D

The best thing was that they had to upload their replays to get ladder points, I remember watching almost all of those games.
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
May 23 2012 18:54 GMT
#314
Liquid´drone has some pretty epic stories somewhere in the TL vault about the early, early days of bw, should all check them out.
I remember about half of what has been mentioned but almost all of the players: suffered from ladder fear before it was invented and never really played, hence i could only follow the drama at TL and such places. Mondragon was/is my favorite player, and his epic comeback in TSL 2 was the best i´ve ever experienced in BW.
Great post TT1, thanks alot!
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
klutch7
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada10 Posts
May 23 2012 19:30 GMT
#315
This blog is absolutely bad ass. Truly a shining example as to why Starcraft has gone the distance. The community is just too awesome. I love hearing tales of the BW glory days, and all the talented players that were involved. GIVE ME MORE!!!
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
May 23 2012 19:33 GMT
#316
If you like to dig up old memories, you must have a read of the two great blogs by Guybrush

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=179930
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=181554

Format is pretty bad and messy, but once you get used to it it's amazing.
ॐ
iNviSible.yunO
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Germany211 Posts
May 23 2012 19:58 GMT
#317
loving this shit fisheye deserves his own paragraph
o.O''
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10073 Posts
May 23 2012 20:38 GMT
#318
On May 24 2012 04:58 iNviSible.yunO wrote:
loving this shit fisheye deserves his own paragraph


i wanted to talk about him but i didnt know wat to say =/
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
May 23 2012 20:51 GMT
#319
I have a confession to make: Most of the old players mentioned in your Blog i use for "fantasy teams" :$ right down to TLPD them, put them in certain race lines and all that crap.

The embarrassing part is that i do it often, sometimes daily -,-' I just can't help it. I fucking miss all the iconic players that didn't switch to SC2

This Blog is made of so much win, thanks TT1, your the best <3
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
UndoneJin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States438 Posts
May 23 2012 21:35 GMT
#320
Phew, there was a lot in this post. Entertaiing though. thanks man =D
I've been lost since the day I was born ----- You're gonna carry that weight
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