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Steelo_Rivers
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1968 Posts
May 17 2012 16:17 GMT
#21
its weird because, you cant change the email on your blizzard accout 0.o

you cant change your original email without knowing the secret answer... and from what i know, thats been in place for a while now...

somethings not adding up here yo
ok
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
May 17 2012 16:35 GMT
#22
I had my WoW account hacked once and I didn't even know about it until they sent me an email saying they had fixed it. (Minus all the low level characters the hacker had deleted that I'd have to log back in to restore, which I never got around to doing)
3.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
May 17 2012 16:39 GMT
#23
Ahhh the fun of DRM. Thanks gaming world.

Anyway it's better than steam. About a year and a half ago they locked my account due to suspicion of account hacking (never did find out if this was really the case or not) which is fine, but they don't have a customer service hotline. The only way to deal with them is via email, which can get frusterating.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
May 17 2012 16:47 GMT
#24
On May 17 2012 22:33 storkfan wrote:
what the hell how do they get stolen. you can just brute force it with a dictionary attack? does the client leak the hash check


This is what I'm wondering as well. I'm more inclined to think it's something like people engineering things like your birthday out of you in game, or linking you to keyloggers.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
May 17 2012 17:41 GMT
#25
I know 5-6 people who have been hacked and I have personally checked their computers for keyloggers and such. They also use passwords that can't easily be bruteforced (would take ages and ages). The only real failpoint was Blizzard.

I've also experienced some shady things with Blizzard firsthand. I made a new email address and created a Battle.Net account with it. This remained dormant for nearly a year until I added a copy of WoW to it. This email had never before been entered ANYWHERE nor had I even checked it after the BNet verification email. Within a day of adding WoW to the account I started getting gold selling spam and phising emails with keyloggers attached to them.

Same exact thing happened with an account I made specifically for SC2.

I don't entirely know what's going on or why, but I know that out of the 7-8 email addresses I use the only ones to have gotten spam in the last 5-6 years are ones tied to Bnet accounts and the few people I know who have had accounts hacked have been virus-free and unlikely to have been bruteforced.

My wife's account was also recently compromised and she uses an authenticator as well. That didn't stop some guy from hacking it, though. Again, not sure how anything but Blizzard could be the fail point in a situation like that.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
May 17 2012 19:16 GMT
#26
lol serejai. They told you their passwords, so you know they can't be bruteforced, and the only failpoint is blizzard? I am skeptical of the complete truth of what you've said.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
May 17 2012 21:03 GMT
#27
On May 18 2012 04:16 UniversalSnip wrote:
lol serejai. They told you their passwords, so you know they can't be bruteforced, and the only failpoint is blizzard? I am skeptical of the complete truth of what you've said.


I don't follow. Where did I say they told me their passwords?
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
May 17 2012 22:54 GMT
#28
On May 18 2012 02:41 Serejai wrote:
I don't entirely know what's going on or why, but I know that out of the 7-8 email addresses I use the only ones to have gotten spam in the last 5-6 years are ones tied to Bnet accounts and the few people I know who have had accounts hacked have been virus-free and unlikely to have been bruteforced.


My primary WoW account is on an email that I don't give out for any other purpose, and I have had exactly zero spam over six years. Meanwhile, the account I use for untrusted vendors etc. gets tons of WoW phishing emails despite not being associated with a battle.net account.

I think it's random chance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
May 17 2012 23:47 GMT
#29
On May 18 2012 06:03 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 04:16 UniversalSnip wrote:
lol serejai. They told you their passwords, so you know they can't be bruteforced, and the only failpoint is blizzard? I am skeptical of the complete truth of what you've said.


I don't follow. Where did I say they told me their passwords?


You have no other way to verify what they're telling you. It's worthless, biased, self protecting hearsay if they didn't.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
May 18 2012 01:09 GMT
#30
On May 18 2012 08:47 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 06:03 Serejai wrote:
On May 18 2012 04:16 UniversalSnip wrote:
lol serejai. They told you their passwords, so you know they can't be bruteforced, and the only failpoint is blizzard? I am skeptical of the complete truth of what you've said.


I don't follow. Where did I say they told me their passwords?


You have no other way to verify what they're telling you. It's worthless, biased, self protecting hearsay if they didn't.


That's pretty ignorant. Of course there are ways of telling how secure a password is other than blurting it out.

Here's one of dozens of ways to judge the anti-bruteforce capability of a password: http://howsecureismypassword.net/

It doesn't really matter what the actual characters are and it doesn't take a genius to realize that a 14-16 character password is not going to be bruteforced by a small time gold selling company in China in a few weeks or months. Not to mention the people that hack accounts aren't interested in specific accounts. They're not going to waste years of resources trying to bruteforce some random account when they could be picking off hundreds or thousands of other accounts with easier passwords.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
May 18 2012 02:29 GMT
#31
People still don't have authenticators?

They are free if you have a smartphone and/or iPod Touch.
http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/battle-net-mobile-authenticator-faq

Or if you don't, its only $6.50 for the keychain.
http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/battle-net-authenticator-faq#q1


Really, if you have more than one game tied to your bnet account, it's stupid not to have one.
"You people need to just generally care a lot less about everything." -Zatic
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
May 18 2012 04:30 GMT
#32
On May 18 2012 10:09 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 08:47 UniversalSnip wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:03 Serejai wrote:
On May 18 2012 04:16 UniversalSnip wrote:
lol serejai. They told you their passwords, so you know they can't be bruteforced, and the only failpoint is blizzard? I am skeptical of the complete truth of what you've said.


I don't follow. Where did I say they told me their passwords?


You have no other way to verify what they're telling you. It's worthless, biased, self protecting hearsay if they didn't.


That's pretty ignorant. Of course there are ways of telling how secure a password is other than blurting it out.

Here's one of dozens of ways to judge the anti-bruteforce capability of a password: http://howsecureismypassword.net/

It doesn't really matter what the actual characters are and it doesn't take a genius to realize that a 14-16 character password is not going to be bruteforced by a small time gold selling company in China in a few weeks or months. Not to mention the people that hack accounts aren't interested in specific accounts. They're not going to waste years of resources trying to bruteforce some random account when they could be picking off hundreds or thousands of other accounts with easier passwords.


No, because I don't trust your friend to be honest about how he got screwed.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
metbull
Profile Joined April 2011
United States404 Posts
May 18 2012 05:41 GMT
#33
possibly better titled "people who hack accounts kinda suck"
but I hear ya. having to wade through Blizz CS just to get back your stuff. not fun.
Starparty
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Sweden1963 Posts
May 18 2012 09:55 GMT
#34
tbh i thínk you should do a reality check and realize how many steps in this process you failed to perform accordingly (i.e secure password, authenticator etc) before trying to shift the blame around.
The artist formerly known as Starparty
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