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megapants
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1314 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 18:53:15
April 27 2012 18:50 GMT
#41
giving up everything you enjoy cold turkey will drive you insane. take it slow. just take a day or two off at a time and then indulge for a bit. it will be much easier to transition to a better lifestyle that way. if you try and go all out right away you are much more likely to break and give up from the frustration. life isn't that short, you don't need to be in such a hurry.

that's why humans invented the work week. don't spend your work/school days goofing off and hold off until the weekend or the very very end of your day. you can do everything on your second list in a single week, multiple times a week even, and still have SO MUCH TIME to do stuff on your first list.
Servius_Fulvius
Profile Joined August 2009
United States947 Posts
April 27 2012 19:55 GMT
#42
On April 27 2012 21:27 FFGenerations wrote:
the only things i can do:
guitar / youtube for guitar
gym
eat
work course thing
meditate/lie/sleep
stretch
take nutrition pills
do laundry
shower
practice smiling
study x


I think it's important to realize that you're not a robot and shouldn't be too hard on yourself if you can't give 100% output on what you're working towards. Even the workaholic associate dean at my school (who works in excess of 90 hours a week because she honestly enjoys it) advocates setting time apart to allow your mind to do nothing.

I did something similar to this over a year ago when my grad school classes turned brutal. I didn't allow myself to have a stress outlet (other than finishing the work) and wound up burning myself out after about three months. For the following two months I had a complete collapse of productivity, completed minimal lab work (only doing mindless tests), and spent virtually all my free time watching anime on netflix. It took a while to get back on track.

While it is intelligent to bring balance to your life by wasting less time on the internet, don't make the mistake of giving yourself no breaks.
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
April 27 2012 20:03 GMT
#43
You are going to hardcore fail in a few weeks if you're trying to change ALL of your habits at once. Behavior change takes time; pick one habit per month (it takes something like 30 days for a new habit to stick) and slowly knock them out over the next year.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
April 27 2012 20:11 GMT
#44
Have fun taking everything you enjoy out of life.

Really..have fun...because that sounds like the most miserable way to live ever.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Deleted User 109835
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
629 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 20:16:41
April 27 2012 20:16 GMT
#45
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Sarasin
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 20:27:13
April 27 2012 20:25 GMT
#46
Best of luck I hope you don't even need it =D

Don't forget guys he intends to spend a large portion of time simply meditating. That and taking a nap is about a good of a break as you can possibly get.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
April 27 2012 20:27 GMT
#47
He's still leaving in bullshit like guitar (unless that's his major). The problem with trying to quit cold turkey like this is in my experience it just doesn't work. Just not fapping is difficult because after a few weeks (personal self control test in high school) you just start having series of wet dreams.

Not using the internet is another thing. He'll still have to check his emails. If he finds a way to break the addiction habit, withdrawl symptoms are going to start kicking in. He'll try to sleep in bed rather than work on his courses.

And then he tacks on no smoking. What do you think he's going to want to do as soon as he gets stressed out by all the things he's put off and the feelings of failure every time he tries something and it doesn't work? Or when his withdrawl symptoms start kicking in?

This is setting yourself up for failure. It's not smart. If you want to improve your life you need a better plan.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Servius_Fulvius
Profile Joined August 2009
United States947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 20:53:51
April 27 2012 20:52 GMT
#48
On April 28 2012 05:27 obesechicken13 wrote:
He's still leaving in bullshit like guitar (unless that's his major). The problem with trying to quit cold turkey like this is in my experience it just doesn't work. Just not fapping is difficult because after a few weeks (personal self control test in high school) you just start having series of wet dreams.


I quit for lent a year ago and experienced nothing even close to this (went 50 days). Besides one unfortunate case of blue balls there really weren't any physical side effects besides becoming overwhelmingly horny on a number of occasions. Maybe it's different for different people (or if you're closer to puberty) or if there really is a psychological dependence.

Quitting cold turkey is possible; it's all a matter of discipline. Chances are one would crack under the pressure because the current amount of discipline they display is not great. It's like trying to run a marathon when the only training you've done is walking around the block once. While I support OP trying to do this, I still urge him to keep my last post in mind and have multiple stress outlets while looking for a balanced lifestyle.
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 20:53:38
April 27 2012 20:53 GMT
#49
On April 27 2012 21:57 MisterD wrote:
i'll be blunt: sounds stupid. maybe could you post the reddit link, so it becomes possible to argue about the reasons behind this?


how does being productive sound stupid? He's striving to become healthier and actually being productive. You'll learn what your priorities are when you grow up one day
Without a paddle up shit creek.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 20:55:37
April 27 2012 20:55 GMT
#50
You won't be able to sleep after a week. All you'll think about is 'Girl .. nude girl .. me and nude girl'
Or just boobs
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matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 21:05:04
April 27 2012 20:59 GMT
#51
On April 28 2012 05:27 obesechicken13 wrote:
He's still leaving in bullshit like guitar (unless that's his major). The problem with trying to quit cold turkey like this is in my experience it just doesn't work. Just not fapping is difficult because after a few weeks (personal self control test in high school) you just start having series of wet dreams.

Not using the internet is another thing. He'll still have to check his emails. If he finds a way to break the addiction habit, withdrawl symptoms are going to start kicking in. He'll try to sleep in bed rather than work on his courses.

And then he tacks on no smoking. What do you think he's going to want to do as soon as he gets stressed out by all the things he's put off and the feelings of failure every time he tries something and it doesn't work? Or when his withdrawl symptoms start kicking in?

This is setting yourself up for failure. It's not smart. If you want to improve your life you need a better plan.


Learning a skill like playing the guitar is bullshit? How so? It's more productive than playing video games.

If he gets regular important emails, I think that's fine. It's not like he's mindlessly browsing reddit or porn.

Um, I can vouch for smoking cigarettes cold turkey. It was simple. I believe human beings are just generally weak, but if one has a strong mindset, one does not need assistance from bullshit.

Newsflash, internet has not always existed from the dawn of man and people actually lived without it and *gasp* were generally happy without it, probably for the better. Men were actually strong and social and didn't need to read tips on how to pickup women from keyboard jockeys.

He might be setting up for failure if he doesn't have a plan, but at least he has resolutions. What are yours again, everybody? Just a bunch of negative posts for this poor, aspiring guy. I really don't find it surprising as this is a site for gaming and most of you live inside your bro caves. Not exactly the site for outdoor living.

With all that, good luck to you bro. Glad you're trying to better yourself. Hope you succeed.
Without a paddle up shit creek.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
April 27 2012 21:15 GMT
#52
On April 28 2012 05:59 matiK23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 05:27 obesechicken13 wrote:
He's still leaving in bullshit like guitar (unless that's his major). The problem with trying to quit cold turkey like this is in my experience it just doesn't work. Just not fapping is difficult because after a few weeks (personal self control test in high school) you just start having series of wet dreams.

Not using the internet is another thing. He'll still have to check his emails. If he finds a way to break the addiction habit, withdrawl symptoms are going to start kicking in. He'll try to sleep in bed rather than work on his courses.

And then he tacks on no smoking. What do you think he's going to want to do as soon as he gets stressed out by all the things he's put off and the feelings of failure every time he tries something and it doesn't work? Or when his withdrawl symptoms start kicking in?

This is setting yourself up for failure. It's not smart. If you want to improve your life you need a better plan.


Learning a skill like playing the guitar is bullshit? How so? It's more productive than playing video games.

If he gets regular important emails, I think that's fine. It's not like he's mindlessly browsing reddit or porn.

Um, I can vouch for smoking cigarettes cold turkey. It was simple. I believe human beings are just generally weak, but if one has a strong mindset, one does not need assistance from bullshit.

Newsflash, internet has not always existed and people actually lived without it and *gasp* were generally happy without it, probably for the better. Men were actually strong and social and didn't read tips on how to pickup women from keyboard jockeys.

He might be setting up for failure if he doesn't have a plan, but at least he has resolutions. What are yours again, everybody? Just a bunch of negative posts for this poor, aspiring guy. I really don't find it surprising as this is a site for gaming and most of you live inside your bro caves. Not exactly the site for outdoor living.

With all that, good luck to you bro. Glad you're trying to better yourself. Hope you succeed.

How is guitar more productive? Unless you think you might one day become a guitar teacher for a period of time it's just doing something for pleasure, same as a video game. I've never smoked cigarettes before(tried weed once, and had relatives that smoked) so I shouldn't comment on that. My bad.

I don't know how the rest of what you said about internet jockeys has relevance to any of my posts so I'll assume it was for someone else.

This is a site for gamers. No shit. Do you realize how hypocritical you sound though calling us dicks? When you say we live in caves?

Are you seriously accusing me of not having resolutions? Do you know anything about me?

No one on this site was mean. We all want what's best for the OP but some of us think he's taking too much of what gives him intrinsic pleasure away from his life. I don't care if he wants to remove wasteful habits from his life, I just don't think his plan will work. I can lie and say I think it will. I won't.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
April 27 2012 21:29 GMT
#53
On April 28 2012 05:55 Erasme wrote:
You won't be able to sleep after a week. All you'll think about is 'Girl .. nude girl .. me and nude girl'
Or just boobs

agree with this guy
Greed leads to just about all losses.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
April 27 2012 22:28 GMT
#54
I don't think he posted the blog to hear about how he will fail, but that's just me. You can express yourself that's fine I just don't see the point here. If he fails he'll find out himself without everyone telling to quit before he's even tried.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
April 27 2012 23:10 GMT
#55
Good luck man, you have ALOT more self control than me. I have thought of doing this a few times, but then I remembered how much I love my computer and don't. I do go mountain climbing alot so I guess that's my thing, hiking and climbing for 13 hours straight keep you from fapping ;P

Here is a little help for you
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
April 27 2012 23:19 GMT
#56
Best of luck. I don't think I could keep myself off the net x.x
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 28 2012 02:19 GMT
#57
No fap? Charging up the spirit bomb eh? :p
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
excellionx
Profile Joined December 2010
United States85 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 02:22:53
April 28 2012 02:22 GMT
#58
i'd like to accomplish something similar to what you're doing. best of luck to you, though doing i do recommend taking baby steps instead of trying to stop everything at once
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 21:32:35
April 29 2012 21:27 GMT
#59
hi, thanks so much for the encouragement, those of you who did so. i did leave the thread open and refresh it

it is end of day 3 now

smoking - i have not smoked or thought about it. VERY tight mental lockdown on it.

wanking - i have masturbated but not let myself orgasm

food - i have been strict paleo/unprocessed plus bread. not touched anything except veg, fruit, chicken and tortilla , and rice , plus a few "healthy" sandwiches at work. and like salsa sauce/ketchup . well thats my version of strict paleo

time allocation - i have spent almost all my time in bed (like 13 hours straight) or at work. this will gradually change as i figure it out and get more energy

entertainment - no web browsing, only watched something whilst eating. its AMAZING how many times you find yourself about to click up on tlnet or facebook. you catch yourself do it then just dont look at the sidebar/threads and close it before you spend any time there.

sleep - easy to bedtime at 10pm when you are not "into anything" like reading or watching stuff. with those addictions free from your background mind, you dont have anything dragging you back. tonight SUCKS because my back hurts SO FUCKING MUCH (doctors on wednesday) i spent 2 hours after work trying to track down some painkillers so its 22:20 already now ffs


to those who were wondering/talking shit, the reason you have to do "everything at once" is because everything is so closely tied to everything else. wanking is tied to browsing net is tied to watching stuff is tied to eating junk food is tied to smoking is tied to staying up too late is all tied to lack of time management and lack of energy etc. you cant simply cut one thing out and hope you keep up the resolve for that one thing when your mind is 90% focused on doing shitty things already. instead, if you are 100% focused on doing proper things and 0% focused on shitty things, then it is a LOT easier to maintain that 0% when all your activities are similarly focused, and when you DO slip up with one thing then you have only slipped up by 10% instead of 100% . the only problem with this philosophy is that the mental state you have to be in in order to initiate this in the first place is quite rare. but if your mental state is strong enough to decide to quit smoking then its a great time to try to attempt to perfect everything else

next 3 days aim - keep stress low and resolve high (fucking hard when my back is hurting like this. and i need to gym tomorrow), start to reallocate time, keep mental lockout on the smoking (dont ask me how i do it), REMEMBER that i am not doing this for the sake of the things that i am doing but for the sake of the things that i will be able to do/achieve
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phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
April 29 2012 21:55 GMT
#60
On April 30 2012 06:27 FFGenerations wrote:

wanking - i have masturbated but not let myself orgasm


I strongly suggest that you terminate this practice if you do not wish to become an eunuch.
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