I've Got The Moves Like Jagger...

Everything happening right now is perfect. Everything you are feeling. Everything that is happening at this very instance. Even the recognition of this as an instance.

It could not happen any other way. Even the questioning of it happening any other way, that too. Perfect.

All the suffering, frustration, happiness, achievement, not achieving, feeling like shit, winning, losing. Perfect.

Alborz

Canada1551 Posts

April 14 2012 03:13 GMT

This is using logic against the mind. This is one mind using a device no other mind can disagree with. /INCEPTION

Pwnzer

United States617 Posts

April 14 2012 03:14 GMT

I'm not so sure I agree with the OP.

Alborz

Canada1551 Posts

April 14 2012 03:16 GMT

No?

minus_human

4784 Posts

April 14 2012 03:19 GMT

Let me guess, you've recently read Eckhart Tolle?

Alborz

Canada1551 Posts

April 14 2012 03:20 GMT

I did a while ago, and some bits recently, but listening to this Awakened-Spiritual-Master (haha) say something and it felt true.

IT FELT SO REAL DAWG (fake accent)

This is how it was suppose to be though, even you asking that question, and me answering it.

Alborz

Canada1551 Posts

April 14 2012 03:21 GMT

Do blog posts count as posts? :s

Edit: Yes

TheKefka

Croatia11752 Posts

April 14 2012 03:21 GMT

Well at first I was like wtf is this.
But than I took a peek at your other blogs and seems like this is a fairly normal one for you lol.

Alborz

Canada1551 Posts

April 14 2012 03:26 GMT

LOL. Why do you say that? Im just expressing myself

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TheKefka

Croatia11752 Posts

April 14 2012 03:34 GMT

#10

Well I'm not saying that its bad,just that I don't really get or agree with it.
But just reading from it I'll take a wild guess and say that you are a very impulsive personality.

Alborz

Canada1551 Posts

April 14 2012 03:43 GMT

#11

Interesting that you point that out.

I am quite impulsive. As a young man of 21 years old, I was depressed in my late teens, so I try to be impulsive now to experience the "joy of being a teen".

I can control it, shut down though. I do it in hoping I will grow out of it through doing it to fit in. :s

Chef

10810 Posts

April 14 2012 03:44 GMT

#12

This is obviously some strange usage of the word "perfect" that I hadn't previously been aware of.

Alborz

Canada1551 Posts

April 14 2012 03:46 GMT

#13

Perfect ... or another word maybe is Appropriate, Impossible to Happen Any Other Way, Destined, Pre-Determined, Right, True

Chef

10810 Posts

April 14 2012 03:48 GMT

#14

Perfect means that it conforms to some ideal exactly. A perfect empirical score on a test is 100%. If someone decided that my life and emotions are in their ideal state, I want that person replaced—especially if he's you. If my life and emotions don't conform to my ideal at all, isn't that the definition of imperfect? Who else's measure should I really use to determine the ideal state of my life than my own? Why would I use a arbitrary measure which has an ideal which constantly changes to match what is already reality, thereby making it redundant and eliminating motivation to improve?

Maybe you can be perfectly satisfied with your current state and therefore see it as perfect, but if you know that whether your state improves or diminishes you will still be perfectly satisfied and thinking everything is perfect, then you eliminate those faculties which push you toward goals and evaluate the condition of your life and give meaning to it. You nearly guarantee that you will put in less effort because there will be no emotional connection to success, since your emotion will be identical to failure.

1Eris1

United States5797 Posts

April 14 2012 03:58 GMT

#15

I disagree, it's an awful song.

Th1rdEye

United States1074 Posts

April 14 2012 04:00 GMT

#16

All he is saying is that there's such thing as fate

Whether you live or die, it's all "perfect"

Alborz

Canada1551 Posts

April 14 2012 04:01 GMT

#17

On April 14 2012 12:48 Chef wrote:
Perfect means that it conforms to some ideal exactly. A perfect empirical score on a test is 100%. If someone decided that my life and emotions are in their ideal state, I want that person replaced—especially if he's you. If my life and emotions don't conform to my ideal at all, isn't that the definition of imperfect? Who else's measure should I really use to determine the ideal state of my life than my own? Why would I use a arbitrary measure which has an ideal which constantly changes to match what is already reality, thereby making it redundant and eliminating motivation to improve?

Maybe you can be perfectly satisfied with your current state and therefore see it as perfect, but if you know that whether your state improves or diminishes you will still be perfectly satisfied and thinking everything is perfect, then you eliminate those faculties which push you toward goals and evaluate the condition of your life and give meaning to it. You nearly guarantee that you will put in less effort because there will be no emotional connection to success, since your emotion will be identical to failure.

With still holding onto the argument, I would jokingly reply and say "but this is perfect too

"

But I understand where you are coming from.

Alborz

Canada1551 Posts

April 14 2012 04:01 GMT

#18

On April 14 2012 13:00 Th1rdEye wrote:
All he is saying is that there's such thing as fate

Whether you live or die, it's all "perfect"

Yeah, thats the point I am claiming, trying to defend, and seeing if it does need defending.

metbull

United States404 Posts

April 14 2012 04:26 GMT

#19

just curious, but to throw out a counter thought.
couldn't someone suggest that the world is shit and nothing is 'perfect.' even including your (alborz's) definition of 'perfect.' that nothing happens for any reason, and that everything is just a game of chance and there is no such thing as fate or destiny. in my opinion both the 'perfect' and 'imperfect' claims don't need any defense, because we are all unique in our mental faculties and how we perceive the 'world' around us.

Chef

10810 Posts

April 14 2012 04:30 GMT

#20

Fate isn't a particularly useful concept for living your life though, and it's certainly not what the word "perfection" means. If you steal someone's cookies and tell them it was fate, however that may be the case, it's not going to satisfy them. Fate is an idea that people can abuse to absolve themselves of responsibility and guilt, but guilt and responsibility are very useful concepts for living a harmonious life with others, as well as the idea of choice, whether illusory or not.