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On April 07 2012 12:01 scaban84 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 11:57 Count9 wrote:Starcraft 2, unlike physical sports, is a game where you can give 100% all the time. There is no sparring. You're so wrong it hurts. If you think anyone pro at anything, including but not limited to starcraft, maintains the same focus and puts forth the same energy in all practice games as they do in tournament games you're incredibly misguided. This is what I was about to say. But Scarletts current success at IPL is proof in the pudding.
If you call that a proof then you're ignoring the hundreds of counter proofs. It doesn't even have to be offline tourneys, online tourneys for money make people nervous enough and become more focused, look at Playhem daily's brackets' players. And those online to tourneys are a lot more like ladder.
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On April 07 2012 12:15 SeventhPride wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 12:01 scaban84 wrote:On April 07 2012 11:57 Count9 wrote:Starcraft 2, unlike physical sports, is a game where you can give 100% all the time. There is no sparring. You're so wrong it hurts. If you think anyone pro at anything, including but not limited to starcraft, maintains the same focus and puts forth the same energy in all practice games as they do in tournament games you're incredibly misguided. This is what I was about to say. But Scarletts current success at IPL is proof in the pudding. Why is he wrong? Physical sports involve muscles and strength, girls have a disadvantage in that area, but in games, I don't see them having a disadvantage against guys. I don't care about people calling it e-sports but saying it needs physical strength is stupid since e-sports is all about the mind. AND everyone is equal, unless you are a retard
nothing in this commentary had anything to do with girls... it had to do with the ability to focus and play at 100% at all times, which isn't possible, mentally you just wear out
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On April 07 2012 12:18 Coramoor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 12:15 SeventhPride wrote:On April 07 2012 12:01 scaban84 wrote:On April 07 2012 11:57 Count9 wrote:Starcraft 2, unlike physical sports, is a game where you can give 100% all the time. There is no sparring. You're so wrong it hurts. If you think anyone pro at anything, including but not limited to starcraft, maintains the same focus and puts forth the same energy in all practice games as they do in tournament games you're incredibly misguided. This is what I was about to say. But Scarletts current success at IPL is proof in the pudding. Why is he wrong? Physical sports involve muscles and strength, girls have a disadvantage in that area, but in games, I don't see them having a disadvantage against guys. I don't care about people calling it e-sports but saying it needs physical strength is stupid since e-sports is all about the mind. AND everyone is equal, unless you are a retard nothing in this commentary had anything to do with girls... it had to do with the ability to focus and play at 100% at all times, which isn't possible, mentally you just wear out
Oh my apologies, I misread, and yeah, I agree with your views on focus. Everyone will get tired at one point
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On April 07 2012 12:15 SeventhPride wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 12:01 scaban84 wrote:On April 07 2012 11:57 Count9 wrote:Starcraft 2, unlike physical sports, is a game where you can give 100% all the time. There is no sparring. You're so wrong it hurts. If you think anyone pro at anything, including but not limited to starcraft, maintains the same focus and puts forth the same energy in all practice games as they do in tournament games you're incredibly misguided. This is what I was about to say. But Scarletts current success at IPL is proof in the pudding. Why is he wrong? Physical sports involve muscles and strength, girls have a disadvantage in that area, but in games, I don't see them having a disadvantage against guys. I don't care about people calling it e-sports but saying it needs physical strength is stupid since e-sports is all about the mind. AND everyone is equal, unless you are a retard
The brain is a muscle, and everyone is not equal. I will let that sink in for a while.
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yeah the community needs to give more backing towards players like Illusion, Scarlett, Gatored... On that note, does anyone know what happened to Gatored? after the impressive showings at IEM he sort of disappeared.
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On April 07 2012 12:20 scaban84 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 12:15 SeventhPride wrote:On April 07 2012 12:01 scaban84 wrote:On April 07 2012 11:57 Count9 wrote:Starcraft 2, unlike physical sports, is a game where you can give 100% all the time. There is no sparring. You're so wrong it hurts. If you think anyone pro at anything, including but not limited to starcraft, maintains the same focus and puts forth the same energy in all practice games as they do in tournament games you're incredibly misguided. This is what I was about to say. But Scarletts current success at IPL is proof in the pudding. Why is he wrong? Physical sports involve muscles and strength, girls have a disadvantage in that area, but in games, I don't see them having a disadvantage against guys. I don't care about people calling it e-sports but saying it needs physical strength is stupid since e-sports is all about the mind. AND everyone is equal, unless you are a retard The brain is a muscle, and everyone is not equal. I will let that sink in for a while.
So you are one of those who thinks that girls are weaker in a game? lol, you are funny. But news flash, starcraft 2 is a game, it DOESN'T involve you building up muscles. its a game, I will let that sink in for a while. Wait, let me break it up for you, starcraf 2 = game. Not.equal.to.muscles.Not.equal.to.sports. get it?
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On April 07 2012 12:23 SeventhPride wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 12:20 scaban84 wrote:On April 07 2012 12:15 SeventhPride wrote:On April 07 2012 12:01 scaban84 wrote:On April 07 2012 11:57 Count9 wrote:Starcraft 2, unlike physical sports, is a game where you can give 100% all the time. There is no sparring. You're so wrong it hurts. If you think anyone pro at anything, including but not limited to starcraft, maintains the same focus and puts forth the same energy in all practice games as they do in tournament games you're incredibly misguided. This is what I was about to say. But Scarletts current success at IPL is proof in the pudding. Why is he wrong? Physical sports involve muscles and strength, girls have a disadvantage in that area, but in games, I don't see them having a disadvantage against guys. I don't care about people calling it e-sports but saying it needs physical strength is stupid since e-sports is all about the mind. AND everyone is equal, unless you are a retard The brain is a muscle, and everyone is not equal. I will let that sink in for a while. So you are one of those who thinks that girls are weaker in a game? lol, you are funny. But news flash, starcraft 2 is a game, it DOESN'T involve you building up muscles. its a game, I will let that sink in for a while
You do a good job of making up arguments out of the blue but you can't even properly counter them. I didn't say girl's have weaker brains. And games do require brain power and hand dexterity, whether you like to recognize that or not.
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Agree with OP. Pretty sad how the community is an "old boys club." And a lot of the tournaments promote that by being 95% invite only.
Just the other day i beat white-ra on ladder. But it's just ladder right? I say this because there are people even less known than myself in NA that have beaten high profile players all the time as well, and get ZERO recognition for it. And these "unknowns" would love chances to destroy pros in tournaments as well...except that over half the tournaments are invite only old boys clubs indeed.
So yes, when you hear already established "pros" spewing out the stuff about "do well in tiny online bla bla bla" it's a load of bs. You have to have other high profile people help hype you up, or get a bit lucky, or play the politics game of knowing people. I know perfect mentioned he won a playhem b4 beating 2-3 korean pros in a row...but people don't hear about stuff like that? So even if you do happen to win little things like that it's still insanely hard to get exposure for yourself.
Basically, once you get established or popular you join the tourney invite train bandwagon, which is great for those dudes, but not so great for the 95% of other top notch pros that routinely beat the "known pros" but are stuck in the cycle of "oh, you wanna try to compete - you're not invited."
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On April 07 2012 12:26 scaban84 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 12:23 SeventhPride wrote:On April 07 2012 12:20 scaban84 wrote:On April 07 2012 12:15 SeventhPride wrote:On April 07 2012 12:01 scaban84 wrote:On April 07 2012 11:57 Count9 wrote:Starcraft 2, unlike physical sports, is a game where you can give 100% all the time. There is no sparring. You're so wrong it hurts. If you think anyone pro at anything, including but not limited to starcraft, maintains the same focus and puts forth the same energy in all practice games as they do in tournament games you're incredibly misguided. This is what I was about to say. But Scarletts current success at IPL is proof in the pudding. Why is he wrong? Physical sports involve muscles and strength, girls have a disadvantage in that area, but in games, I don't see them having a disadvantage against guys. I don't care about people calling it e-sports but saying it needs physical strength is stupid since e-sports is all about the mind. AND everyone is equal, unless you are a retard The brain is a muscle, and everyone is not equal. I will let that sink in for a while. So you are one of those who thinks that girls are weaker in a game? lol, you are funny. But news flash, starcraft 2 is a game, it DOESN'T involve you building up muscles. its a game, I will let that sink in for a while You do a good job of making up arguments out of the blue but you can't even properly counter them. I didn't say girl's have weaker brains. And games do require brain power and hand dexterity, whether you like to recognize that or not.
Yes yes, you just want to feel better,its okay, I understand.  I will be the bigger man and walk away. have fun being sexist, that will get you a wife
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This is exactly one of the major problems of the foreign scene and why it has fallen behind. It's heavily based on personality in addition to skill, whereas Koreans are focused only on performance (barring exceptions like Boxer, Nada, and July).
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On April 07 2012 12:27 SeventhPride wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 12:26 scaban84 wrote:On April 07 2012 12:23 SeventhPride wrote:On April 07 2012 12:20 scaban84 wrote:On April 07 2012 12:15 SeventhPride wrote:On April 07 2012 12:01 scaban84 wrote:On April 07 2012 11:57 Count9 wrote:Starcraft 2, unlike physical sports, is a game where you can give 100% all the time. There is no sparring. You're so wrong it hurts. If you think anyone pro at anything, including but not limited to starcraft, maintains the same focus and puts forth the same energy in all practice games as they do in tournament games you're incredibly misguided. This is what I was about to say. But Scarletts current success at IPL is proof in the pudding. Why is he wrong? Physical sports involve muscles and strength, girls have a disadvantage in that area, but in games, I don't see them having a disadvantage against guys. I don't care about people calling it e-sports but saying it needs physical strength is stupid since e-sports is all about the mind. AND everyone is equal, unless you are a retard The brain is a muscle, and everyone is not equal. I will let that sink in for a while. So you are one of those who thinks that girls are weaker in a game? lol, you are funny. But news flash, starcraft 2 is a game, it DOESN'T involve you building up muscles. its a game, I will let that sink in for a while You do a good job of making up arguments out of the blue but you can't even properly counter them. I didn't say girl's have weaker brains. And games do require brain power and hand dexterity, whether you like to recognize that or not. Yes yes, you just want to feel better,its okay, I understand. I will be the bigger man and walk away. have fun being sexist, that will get you a wife
You are the only one in this thread mentioning gender. The poster who said that not everyone's brain is equal is most likely referring to your statement: " everyone is equal, unless you are a retard."
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On April 07 2012 12:27 SeventhPride wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 12:26 scaban84 wrote:On April 07 2012 12:23 SeventhPride wrote:On April 07 2012 12:20 scaban84 wrote:On April 07 2012 12:15 SeventhPride wrote:On April 07 2012 12:01 scaban84 wrote:On April 07 2012 11:57 Count9 wrote:Starcraft 2, unlike physical sports, is a game where you can give 100% all the time. There is no sparring. You're so wrong it hurts. If you think anyone pro at anything, including but not limited to starcraft, maintains the same focus and puts forth the same energy in all practice games as they do in tournament games you're incredibly misguided. This is what I was about to say. But Scarletts current success at IPL is proof in the pudding. Why is he wrong? Physical sports involve muscles and strength, girls have a disadvantage in that area, but in games, I don't see them having a disadvantage against guys. I don't care about people calling it e-sports but saying it needs physical strength is stupid since e-sports is all about the mind. AND everyone is equal, unless you are a retard The brain is a muscle, and everyone is not equal. I will let that sink in for a while. So you are one of those who thinks that girls are weaker in a game? lol, you are funny. But news flash, starcraft 2 is a game, it DOESN'T involve you building up muscles. its a game, I will let that sink in for a while You do a good job of making up arguments out of the blue but you can't even properly counter them. I didn't say girl's have weaker brains. And games do require brain power and hand dexterity, whether you like to recognize that or not. Yes yes, you just want to feel better,its okay, I understand. I will be the bigger man and walk away. have fun being sexist, that will get you a wife
Your trolly comment made me lol. I'm sure you get a kick out of trying to irritate some random person on the internet. And I will have fun being sexist because thats what sexists do, we have fun with women. Women are attracted to masculinity. Not effeminate girl power advocates.
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1:0 for Scaban, well done.
Scarlett 2-0'd Demuslim. Damn, must be hard on demuslim...
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On April 07 2012 12:38 Bagration wrote:
This is exactly one of the major problems of the foreign scene and why it has fallen behind. It's heavily based on personality in addition to skill, whereas Koreans are focused only on performance (barring exceptions like Boxer, Nada, and July).
that's not true. a huge part of korean bw consists of being fans of specific players.
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On April 07 2012 11:37 EtherealDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 11:34 beg wrote:
maybe if scarlett didnt ladder with the |||||||||||| account all the time... She used to use the "Scarlett" account quite a lot... actually I think she's been in GM since Season 2 if my memory serves me correctly.
wait...llllllllll is scarlett?????? god damn i was wondering who llllllll was (i consider it a bad name for an actual name and figured it had to be a smurf acct) after i was demolished by llllllllll 3-1 on ladder recently
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On April 07 2012 12:54 unit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 11:37 EtherealDeath wrote:On April 07 2012 11:34 beg wrote:
maybe if scarlett didnt ladder with the |||||||||||| account all the time... She used to use the "Scarlett" account quite a lot... actually I think she's been in GM since Season 2 if my memory serves me correctly. wait...llllllllll is scarlett?????? god damn i was wondering who llllllll was (i consider it a bad name for an actual name and figured it had to be a smurf acct) after i was demolished by llllllllll 3-1 on ladder recently
It's an ID used a lot on KR. I guess a bunch of people got bored coming up with names for all their smurfs because there's atleast 10 of them in GM.
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On April 07 2012 12:54 unit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 11:37 EtherealDeath wrote:On April 07 2012 11:34 beg wrote:
maybe if scarlett didnt ladder with the |||||||||||| account all the time... She used to use the "Scarlett" account quite a lot... actually I think she's been in GM since Season 2 if my memory serves me correctly. wait...llllllllll is scarlett?????? god damn i was wondering who llllllll was (i consider it a bad name for an actual name and figured it had to be a smurf acct) after i was demolished by llllllllll 3-1 on ladder recently
I heard a lot of Koreans use that name so that it is harder to steal their builds/know who they are when they ladder. I don't know about NA server though.
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You're wrong. There aren't 30 or so people just dying to get attention, there are probably more like 100.
Here's the thing wanna-be pros need to realize: they are a dime a dozen. It is nice to see "unknowns" do well, but pretending that they "deserve more attention" before they do well in a major tournament is dumb. The scene has proven time and time again you need to either:
A) Be good enough to take games off of top pros, because that is entertaining
or
B) You need to have a good/unique/entertaining personality to stand out from the card-board-cut-out nerds that overpopulate the scene.
Without one of those things, you are just another face in the crowd that is trying to get your name out there. There are 50+ nerds with nothing but time on their hands to take your place. You may not like it, but that is the way this works, and it works well. People watch to be entertained. If you aren't entertaining, one way or another, you won't get attention, and don't deserve it.
For every 1 NA/EU player that fits in this category, there are probably 10 Korean "unknowns" that are just as good.
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On April 07 2012 12:59 CAPSLOCKLOL wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 12:54 unit wrote:On April 07 2012 11:37 EtherealDeath wrote:On April 07 2012 11:34 beg wrote:
maybe if scarlett didnt ladder with the |||||||||||| account all the time... She used to use the "Scarlett" account quite a lot... actually I think she's been in GM since Season 2 if my memory serves me correctly. wait...llllllllll is scarlett?????? god damn i was wondering who llllllll was (i consider it a bad name for an actual name and figured it had to be a smurf acct) after i was demolished by llllllllll 3-1 on ladder recently It's an ID used a lot on KR. I guess a bunch of people got bored coming up with names for all their smurfs because there's atleast 10 of them in GM.
ah, this was on NA tho, the acct wasn't gm but was rather high master and probably has low gm mmr (started out my ladder day w/2 gms in a row so the mmr should be similar for that acct)
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