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I'm growing tired of my Xai-- the buttons on the right side of the mouse which i never would use (cause I'm right handed) really annoy my fingers while im playing.
The mamba does not have these annoying buttons on the right side. It also has a lot of other perks like wireless (supposedly without any problems.. i like this cause my mouse cord annoys me a lot), and some 4g sensor precision system. I also like how the right / left button is designed (feels like there is less "distance" to actually register a mouse click" compared to the Xai). Not to mention I always see all of the SlayerS (and TL I think) players using it in the GSL, which does make me want to use it more :D
I'm not a fan of Razer keyboards, but the Mamba is alluring. Do you think it's worth the 130$? If you have used it, how do you like it?
Poll: Xai vs MambaRazer Mamba (30) 52% Steelseries Xai (28) 48% 58 total votes Your vote: Xai vs Mamba (Vote): Razer Mamba
(Vote): Steelseries Xai
 
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
When confronted with decisions like this I think about how many candy bars I could buy with the money. If you buy candybars in bulk I think you could get them for roughly 40 cents each. So the question is really between the Mamba and 325 candybars.
Poll: Mamba or 325 candybars?Candybars (70) 80% Razer Mamba (18) 20% 88 total votes Your vote: Mamba or 325 candybars? (Vote): Razer Mamba
(Vote): Candybars
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motbob makes a very convincing argument
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I would get the Mamba and then program its buttons to open the candy bars.
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that is some quality advice right there. i don't think i'll ever have trouble with any monetary decisions from now on
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On April 05 2012 14:15 motbob wrote:When confronted with decisions like this I think about how many candy bars I could buy with the money. If you buy candybars in bulk I think you could get them for roughly 40 cents each. So the question is really between the Mamba and 325 candybars. Poll: Mamba or 325 candybars?Candybars (70) 80% Razer Mamba (18) 20% 88 total votes Your vote: Mamba or 325 candybars? (Vote): Razer Mamba
(Vote): Candybars
Are the candy bars for eating, if so that would make you incredibly unhealthy.
If they are just for playing with then thats fine!
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I have the Mamba and I love it, but even I would rather have 325 candybars than the Mamba... lol
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I haven't tried either of these but with my experience with Razor I'v gone threw 5 mice and 4 of them were replacements of each other with in one year due to them burning out and one of them out of the box didn`t work (IMPERATOR). My one Steel Series mouse that I had a few years ago was really good but had to replace it dude to normal wear and tear (IKARI). Ended up giving up on Razor and going with the Tt Black Element gaming mouse.
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candybars indeed, i like that comparison.
I don't understand, people should use logitech g1 mouse. dpi is already set perfectly, glides so smooth its a classic. Not big but not small either, unless u got gigantic hands
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Haha. Personally, if I were in the market for a mouse and had your considerations, I would go for a razer death adder and a mouse bungie (or just a piece of tape) for the cord.
Then again, I don't know your economic situation so 130 might not be that much to sneeze at.
Candybars! ( as long as they're not crappy).
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I have used both. Xai is far superior imo. I don't see why you would want a wireless mouse anyway. Deathadder is better than Mamba too, and much cheaper. I think most of the players are using Deathadders. IMO the sensor of the Deathadder just feels better in games to me and for me I don't think they are even close in comparison (Deathadder vs Mamba). So no, in my opinion it is worth $130. It feels cheap and the Deathadder is better.
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As soon as my Razer Naga dies (it just wont lol) than im getting the Deathadder.
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i have the mamba. slickest mouse ive ever owned. as precise as you want it, wireless with no issues, braided cord, customizable, ergonomic, everything you could want in a mouse. totally worth it.
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If you have the money, just buy it, then you can really put it to the test yourself. If you don't like it as much, you can always go back.
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If you don't need to wireless possibility of the Mamba, just get a DeathAdder.
It's basicly the same mouse.
I have a Mamba, because the mouse just look so badass. It was an impulsive buy. I'm not having any problem with it beside the scrool wheel being a bit buggy ( pressing it for scrolling and stuff don't always work well )
It's up to you to decide if 130$ in a mouse is worth it. The quality is here but it's still pretty damn expensive for a mouse.
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Buy cheap logitech mouse. That way, you can buy a lot of candybars but still have good reliable mouse.
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On April 05 2012 18:17 Shana wrote:
Buy cheap logitech mouse. That way, you can buy a lot of candybars but still have good reliable mouse.
Exactly this. I got my Kinzu for 30 bucks and have enough money left over for the candy (in my case whisky).
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I love my deathadder. Never tried steelseries mice. When debating between getting a steelseries or razer mouse, I just looked at whatever looked more comfortable for the size of my hand.
edit: dont get a logitech mouse >.> have tried a few of those. Hate them.
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On April 05 2012 14:40 Depetrify wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2012 14:15 motbob wrote:When confronted with decisions like this I think about how many candy bars I could buy with the money. If you buy candybars in bulk I think you could get them for roughly 40 cents each. So the question is really between the Mamba and 325 candybars. Poll: Mamba or 325 candybars?Candybars (70) 80% Razer Mamba (18) 20% 88 total votes Your vote: Mamba or 325 candybars? (Vote): Razer Mamba
(Vote): Candybars
Are the candy bars for eating, if so that would make you incredibly unhealthy. If they are just for playing with then thats fine!
how do you play with candybars?
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I've got the Mamba...and I don't particularly like it. I think it is ok as long as you have your hand right over the mouse, but if you just grip the back of the mouse like me, it's not so good. Sensor is ok (as long as you keep it against your mousepad, otherwise it goes crazy if you pick it 1-2mm up by mistake)
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I use the DeathAdder, it's perfect. Not to mention it's the Autobots one ^_^;;
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I have a friend who owns a Mamba. He despises it, and is now stuck in a situation where he can't afford a new mouse. He had a Death Adder previously, he wishes he could go back.
I personally find the Abyssus amazing and fulfilling despite some jitter issues on my TL Goliathus.
None of these mice are equal to 325 candy bars.
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Question, is the deathadder comfortable for medium/smaller hands? Im only 5'6" tall and my hands are average size I suppose. But the deathadder looks like a pretty big mouse. Does that mean its meant for larger hands?
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if you palm then deathadder is good. i half palm/ half grip and prefer the xai
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On April 05 2012 14:15 motbob wrote:When confronted with decisions like this I think about how many candy bars I could buy with the money. If you buy candybars in bulk I think you could get them for roughly 40 cents each. So the question is really between the Mamba and 325 candybars. Poll: Mamba or 325 candybars?Candybars (70) 80% Razer Mamba (18) 20% 88 total votes Your vote: Mamba or 325 candybars? (Vote): Razer Mamba
(Vote): Candybars
Well this is obviously an equation for morbid obesity. We just need to figure out the amount of hours the typical Mamba lasts, and how many calories he will conserve by sitting down and playing games, instead of standing. Then we need to get a rough estimate of which candy bars he will be eating. We will then take that information and multiply the total calorie count by the Obesity Multiplier, leaving us with the Gastric-Lard Coefficient. We then need to figure out the rough distance (in Kilometres, of course) that he will travel on foot to obtain the candy. We convert that number into a Basal heart rate, which we then reverse engineer to determine the percentage of childhood memories he has retained. We the sum up all of these numbers to calculate the Marginal Propensity of Lordship (in the next ~7 years).
But what if he is also sitting when he eats the candy bars? Well fuck... I'll be back with a better equation shortly.
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On April 06 2012 01:47 JimSocks wrote:
if you palm then deathadder is good. i half palm/ half grip and prefer the xai
mmmmm I rarely have my palm touch the mouse (feels odd typing that lol), so maybe I should just get a different Razer mouse.
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pros use deathadder not the mamba, which is about 40 bucks cheaper than the mamba and the xai
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Get an mx518, amazing mouse
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United States22883 Posts
Wireless mouse = bad
Razer laser mouse = bad
Stick with the Xai or get a DeathAdder if you want a large-ish 5 button mouse.
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On April 05 2012 14:59 n3f wrote:
I haven't tried either of these but with my experience with Razor I'v gone threw 5 mice and 4 of them were replacements of each other with in one year due to them burning out and one of them out of the box didn`t work (IMPERATOR). My one Steel Series mouse that I had a few years ago was really good but had to replace it dude to normal wear and tear (IKARI). Ended up giving up on Razor and going with the Tt Black Element gaming mouse.
My mx518 is 5 years old, 3 of them were on iccup playing 500 games a season. It works like brand new, only the logo worn off.
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On April 12 2012 21:10 Jibba wrote:
Wireless mouse = bad
Razer laser mouse = bad
Stick with the Xai or get a DeathAdder if you want a large-ish 5 button mouse.
Xai has built in acceleration = bad
I've also heard issues with the drivers on the Xai which = bad
Mamba is also dual wireless and wired, so you can use it as either. Though the DeatherAdder or Abyssus would probably be much better options since the Mamba 2012 edition is $130.
Actually TL Mouse Thread = lots of information and best advice on the planet :D :D :D
-edit: url fail
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United States22883 Posts
It's 5%~ acceleration, depending on the CPI setting which isn't a big deal in most games, especially for SC2. The Phillips Twin Laser in the Mamba is much worse than the Avago 9500 in the Xai.
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On April 13 2012 00:38 Jibba wrote:
It's 5%~ acceleration, depending on the CPI setting which isn't a big deal in most games, especially for SC2. The Phillips Twin Laser in the Mamba is much worse than the Avago 9500 in the Xai.
Well I personally would rather deal with the z-axis issue on the PTE instead of built in acceleration and driver issues. -edit: and I'm pretty sure the Xai has angle snapping.
But again, Abussus and DeathAdder are definetly better options. No reason to spend over $100, and no one realistically needs 5600 DPI/CPI.
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United States22883 Posts
I agree with the second part, but I still think Xai is a suitable mouse and the liftoff issues on PTE are infuriating. I really don't think players in most genres notice the 5% acceleration, unless you're playing QL.
Also, this might be controversial, but I don't think prediction is a detriment in all games. In CS, most of the time you're on level ground and you line up where the opponent will be before you turn the corner. In that case, I prefer more vertical resistance (which is why Artisan mousepads are slicker laterally than vertically.)
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On April 13 2012 01:43 Jibba wrote:
I agree with the second part, but I still think Xai is a suitable mouse and the liftoff issues on PTE are infuriating. I really don't think players in most genres notice the 5% acceleration, unless you're playing QL.
Also, this might be controversial, but I don't think prediction is a detriment in all games. In CS, most of the time you're on level ground and you line up where the opponent will be before you turn the corner. In that case, I prefer more vertical resistance (which is why Artisan mousepads are slicker laterally than vertically.)
Well most players don't have well developed muscle memory, but high level masters players and ICCUP C and above would probably be pretty frusterated. It's also reducing the accuracy of the mouse cursor as the sensor input is being artificially multiplied. Though I know there are some people out there who like it, so I guess it still comes down to a personal choice.
And yeah I've heard that argument about CS before, and I guess I don't necessarily object. But a high level SC2 player would almost certainly notice a difference. Actually anyone whose developed sufficient muscle memory with a game would notice a big difference. Most people probably would not though, and in fact everyone using a Steel Series mouse is already dealing with it and don't notice it.
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On April 05 2012 14:15 motbob wrote:When confronted with decisions like this I think about how many candy bars I could buy with the money. If you buy candybars in bulk I think you could get them for roughly 40 cents each. So the question is really between the Mamba and 325 candybars. Poll: Mamba or 325 candybars?Candybars (70) 80% Razer Mamba (18) 20% 88 total votes Your vote: Mamba or 325 candybars? (Vote): Razer Mamba
(Vote): Candybars
Where the hell do you live where you can get 325 candy bars for 130 dollars?!?!?!?
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On April 13 2012 07:57 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2012 14:15 motbob wrote:When confronted with decisions like this I think about how many candy bars I could buy with the money. If you buy candybars in bulk I think you could get them for roughly 40 cents each. So the question is really between the Mamba and 325 candybars. Poll: Mamba or 325 candybars?Candybars (70) 80% Razer Mamba (18) 20% 88 total votes Your vote: Mamba or 325 candybars? (Vote): Razer Mamba
(Vote): Candybars
Where the hell do you live where you can get 325 candy bars for 130 dollars?!?!?!?
You know you can buy them in like 10 packs at Walmart for like 5 bucks right?
-edit: sorry, 6 for 3.94 http://www.walmart.com/ip/Milky-Way-Caramel-and-Nougat-Chocolate-12.3-oz/10452982 and even cheaper when on sale.
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