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In mid masters, I can actually say 70+ % of people BM me. I say glhf/gg and whatever, but even if I'm losing my opponent will bm with stuff like "get out" etc. This is on NA.
But when I play on the Korean server though, no one bms or anything. In fact most GG. Nowadays I'm playing most of my games on the Korean server BECAUSE of this.
I don't even care about stuff like glhf/ gg, but seriously every other person on NA has some 1-2 liner to say at the end of the game about my skill (when in reality I probably have better APM/mechanics than said players who claim to be "better" me in their insults). 90% chance after I leave the game (If i don't have friends-only chat on) that they will message me with some 1 liner as well.
I just find myself disliking the NA scene in general and am sad that such a large majority of the sc2 scene is this bad mannered. People like to say the the SC2 community is super nice, and surely a lot of it is, but when it comes to the ACTUAL game people are really really really really angry and BM. Sucks, but it's true. Again I'm not one of those strict people who freak out at no GLHF or gg, but the actual insults and 1 liners get tiresome after the first.. 50 times..
Back to KR server :D
  
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Dont know about NA but there is a fair amount of bm on the european server as well. I get offensive ggs and "leave" the most when it comes to bm.
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Yes NA has the most BM because Most of NA is Americans. Over 50% of Americans are obese so the only way they can feel superior is to BM some random name on the internet.
My hardest BM line is: Nice All-in!
EDIT: This is why I ladder at night. Only Hardcore gamers play at 3am in the morning. Hardcore gamers are too busy playing games to over indulge so they have excellent manners.
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On April 02 2012 20:20 iTzSnypah wrote:
Yes NA has the most BM because Most of NA is Americans. Over 50% of Americans are obese so the only way they can feel superior is to BM some random name on the internet.
My hardest BM line is: Nice All-in!
LOL... wtf?
But yes, NA is definitely very bm because of the type of people who play there.. Not because of their weight.
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the question is, does EU or Korea have the NA equivalant of Deezatex?
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On April 02 2012 20:20 iTzSnypah wrote:
Yes NA has the most BM because Most of NA is Americans. Over 50% of Americans are obese so the only way they can feel superior is to BM some random name on the internet.
My hardest BM line is: Nice All-in!
EDIT: This is why I ladder at night. Only Hardcore gamers play at 3am in the morning. Hardcore gamers are too busy playing games to over indulge so they have excellent manners.
A bit anti-American are we?
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i play on both servers, and there definitely is more BM on NA than KR, though KR bm is not nonexistent.
On April 02 2012 20:25 Grovbolle wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 20:20 iTzSnypah wrote:
Yes NA has the most BM because Most of NA is Americans. Over 50% of Americans are obese so the only way they can feel superior is to BM some random name on the internet.
My hardest BM line is: Nice All-in!
EDIT: This is why I ladder at night. Only Hardcore gamers play at 3am in the morning. Hardcore gamers are too busy playing games to over indulge so they have excellent manners. A bit anti-American are we?
err.. might want to check your sarcasm/troll detector 
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Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal.
I actually don't experience an overwhelming amount of BM when I ladder on the NA server (maybe 1 in every 10 or 15 games at worst), and I've also seen/ heard that the EU and KR servers have BM as well.
Maybe NA is the worst-mannered ladder. Maybe the others are as bad or worse. It would be interesting to see a huge study on this. But you haven't done one.
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On April 02 2012 20:26 zeehar wrote:i play on both servers, and there definitely is more BM on NA than KR, though KR bm is not nonexistent. Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 20:25 Grovbolle wrote:On April 02 2012 20:20 iTzSnypah wrote:
Yes NA has the most BM because Most of NA is Americans. Over 50% of Americans are obese so the only way they can feel superior is to BM some random name on the internet.
My hardest BM line is: Nice All-in!
EDIT: This is why I ladder at night. Only Hardcore gamers play at 3am in the morning. Hardcore gamers are too busy playing games to over indulge so they have excellent manners. A bit anti-American are we? err.. might want to check your sarcasm/troll detector
HUZZAH!
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I play on NA server and especially lately I've been getting things like offensive gg's and get outs virtually every game. Sometimes I get things like "dude it's over, get out" or "you're so bad". Sadly, it's really common.
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On April 02 2012 20:26 zeehar wrote:i play on both servers, and there definitely is more BM on NA than KR, though KR bm is not nonexistent. Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 20:25 Grovbolle wrote:On April 02 2012 20:20 iTzSnypah wrote:
Yes NA has the most BM because Most of NA is Americans. Over 50% of Americans are obese so the only way they can feel superior is to BM some random name on the internet.
My hardest BM line is: Nice All-in!
EDIT: This is why I ladder at night. Only Hardcore gamers play at 3am in the morning. Hardcore gamers are too busy playing games to over indulge so they have excellent manners. A bit anti-American are we? err.. might want to check your sarcasm/troll detector
You too 
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On April 02 2012 20:25 Grovbolle wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 20:20 iTzSnypah wrote:
Yes NA has the most BM because Most of NA is Americans. Over 50% of Americans are obese so the only way they can feel superior is to BM some random name on the internet.
My hardest BM line is: Nice All-in!
EDIT: This is why I ladder at night. Only Hardcore gamers play at 3am in the morning. Hardcore gamers are too busy playing games to over indulge so they have excellent manners. A bit anti-American are we?
A bit of truth is all that is... that has nothing to do with being anti-american...stats don't lie
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On April 02 2012 20:20 iTzSnypah wrote:
Yes NA has the most BM because Most of NA is Americans. Over 50% of Americans are obese so the only way they can feel superior is to BM some random name on the internet.
My hardest BM line is: Nice All-in!
EDIT: This is why I ladder at night. Only Hardcore gamers play at 3am in the morning. Hardcore gamers are too busy playing games to over indulge so they have excellent manners.
I play till like 6-8 am every night, and i'm sorry but you couldn't be further from the truth.
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i can only speak for the streams i watch but EU seems just as vile as NA, for protoss players at least : D
its a lot of "joke race", "lucker" type stuff rather then calling everyone ghey and whatnot on NA server
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A lot of people on the EU server whisper me after games and say they hope my family dies.. kinda messed up lol.
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I do play a lot of BM people. But usually they BM you if you are beating them. I use to respond back to them, but now I don't. I use to be pretty BM on wc 3, but not anymore....i grew up lol
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Yeah NA is pretty much trash when it comes to manners. The problem is that the BM gets to your head in more than one way - if you lose and get BM'ed you feel like shit, and you win and get BM'ed you feel like you're God, which is counterproductive to learning.
Although occasionally I get bm'd on KR, most of the time it's very manner and I've met some super manner dudes there such as XellOsMvP, XenomorphIOv, uniCTool, and a bunch of others whose names are in korean and I can't spell. Another thing is that it feels like most of the KR masters players are in some sort of clan, which maybe makes them more accountable for their behavior? Idk. Also it's worth noting that e-harassment is a real crime in Korea, which maybe explains why there's less people threatening to gut my family after a loss.
Edit: most of the BM i get is from Taiwanese people thinking I'm korean, and vice versa. I had to get my chinese roommate to come translate some shit somebody was saying to me yesterday, only to determine that he was telling me that south korea was going to get nuked by north korea and that I was deserving to die - sure, OK buddy.
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Dunno, I play on EU server, start every game with gl hf and end every one with gg, I get like 1 in 5 games some bm, and usually its when they lost so it isn't a problem. BM for me is only annoying if they say something like get out or offensive gg..
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I experience this a lot too. I play in 3 servers SEA,NA,KR. Many of my opponents in NA don't seem to say glhf and gg when they lose. I experience this less on SEA and especially in KR server.
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On April 02 2012 20:10 AegiS_ wrote:
I don't even care about stuff like glhf/ gg, but seriously every other person on NA has some 1-2 liner to say at the end of the game about my skill (when in reality I have better APM/mechanics than said players who claim to be "better" me in their insults).
Back to KR server :D
Argghh! People still think APM = skill??
I play on both NA and SEA, and for a while there NA was extremely full of BM, but it seems to have backed off now. It really bugs me though when people BM you after a match and they have their PM settings restricted to friends only. It makes me want to switch my PM settings like that, but at the same time I don't want to be antisocial because there are some good people out there that you meet randomly.
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I get about the same amount on NA as EU. Although NA has more native english speakers and their bm is often more...specific. Detailed.
And what I've seen of the TL chat channel on NA it's just kids trolling kids who are saying 'LOL YOU'RE NOT EVEN TROLLING'. It's weird.
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When I lived in China, the people on the Chinese server weren't bm at all. Not that I speak chinese or anything (yet), but they'd never even... say anything. Just standard gl/hf, gg at the end, not much at all in between, ever, except for one person who was curious as to me being American. At the same time, I got cheesed there almost every game, and I had to adapt to that rather quickly.
So the NA server is funny to me, because here is where everyone complains the most about cheese and all-ins, but it's also the place where the least amount of cheese and all-ins happen. If I did half the stuff now that I saw on the Chinese server, I'd be trolled off the planet for it!
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Netherlands2398 Posts
I don't encounter much BM on the EU server (diamond level). Every now and then you get someone bitching about Terran if I win, but the most common "BM" is when they try to downplay my "achievement" of beating them by giving some reason why they lost just before leaving "i'm so tired", "i made so many mistakes" or "i normally play protoss" (interestingly the guys profile page showed Zerg has his most played race) and stuff like that. But that's about it.
I have noticed a rise in number of people who try to pull off some standard cheese or all-in (think marine/SCV or 4-gate) and when it fails, they pause and type "has left the game!" in chat before unpausing hoping that it tricks me into thinking they've actually left. I just reply that i'm not buying it and proceed to kill their stuff. One guy actually left for real when I said he didn't fool me, which was mildly satisfying.
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The lack of GG or GLHF on NA is more of a cultural thing. While it's considered manner to say that, it's not really BM to say nothing during a game.
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No way. I get the most BM on EU by far.
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out of over 15 games today on NA I think I got one gg from my opponents. It was a nice change that only 1-2 actually whined about balance/me being shit for once. I remember a long time ago low masters being the worst where every single game without fail some angry nerd would rage every single game.
I always wondered if in America nerds are treated as badly in high school as on tv? If you actually got wedgies and shit at school I can imagine why you'd feel the need to take your hate out on the internet...
Tbh though I think its just a cycle where people started being dicks and then others were dicks to get back at them and it just goes round and round. Ah wells, tools will be tools.
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Eu server is so bad. Think these days 75% is bming at the end of the game, even if they are winning :/
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On April 02 2012 22:49 huehuehuehue wrote:
Dunno, I play on EU server, start every game with gl hf and end every one with gg, I get like 1 in 5 games some bm, and usually its when they lost so it isn't a problem. BM for me is only annoying if they say something like get out or offensive gg..
Same here, on EU serve in Platinum. I start every game with "gl hf" and end every game with "gg wp" and I only get BM maybe once in every 20 games. And even then I just ignore it completely and they stop.
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Sweden2783 Posts
My personal experience is that the american servers are worse when it comes to playing the game but way better at BMing you.
Then again has not the american starcraft scene always been BM central? I seem to recall watching Psystarcraft cast Yankee League or whatever it was called with Artosis bming the hell out of someone someone calling them "piece of newbie shit" and such?
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On April 03 2012 00:00 Kyhol wrote:
No way. I get the most BM on EU by far.
Same. Especially european protosses..
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Eu player here and i get bmed like 80% of won games.
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Wouldn't know about EU but NA is significantly more BM then SEA or KR servers in my experience.
KR is hardly BM it's really fucken funny when they do, mostly because they have pathetic english (haha, son of bitch terran. Terran no mother!). Even had a guy BM me, hit me later that day and apologise for BMing. Wha?
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I have a Terran account in masters on NA, and that definitely has more BM than my recently created plat Protoss account. I think people are more content with their position in plat, and by that I mean either they don't play that much, or they are intent on learning so they blame their own play, or like me, they are also off-racing.
But I have also heard stories of BM in the lower leagues, and that rage could come from lack of understanding of the game. Although, even though I'm in masters and my opponents are too, I still feel like we don't understand the game well sometimes haha.
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Well since US-East was the #1 home of BM and maphacking in BW I would assume that the NA server is the worst in sc2 aswell.
However I only play on EU and dont get BM:ed that much,10% of the games perhaps.
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On April 02 2012 23:07 Makra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 20:10 AegiS_ wrote:
I don't even care about stuff like glhf/ gg, but seriously every other person on NA has some 1-2 liner to say at the end of the game about my skill (when in reality I have better APM/mechanics than said players who claim to be "better" me in their insults).
Back to KR server :D Argghh! People still think APM = skill??I play on both NA and SEA, and for a while there NA was extremely full of BM, but it seems to have backed off now. It really bugs me though when people BM you after a match and they have their PM settings restricted to friends only. It makes me want to switch my PM settings like that, but at the same time I don't want to be antisocial because there are some good people out there that you meet randomly.
I like how he has APM/mechanics right there and you call him out for believing APM=skill. Mechanics are definitely a critical component of skill. APM in and of itself, while much less of a predictor of skill than mechanics, is still relevant because higher APM tends to correlate with better multitasking which is obviously a part of one's mechanics.
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On April 02 2012 22:30 Megatronn wrote:
A lot of people on the EU server whisper me after games and say they hope my family dies.. kinda messed up lol.
LOL, I receive similar types of comments on the EU server. Yesterday, someone whispered to me and said that I should jump into a fire... with my WHOLE FAMILY LOL.
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On April 03 2012 02:03 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 23:07 Makra wrote:On April 02 2012 20:10 AegiS_ wrote:
I don't even care about stuff like glhf/ gg, but seriously every other person on NA has some 1-2 liner to say at the end of the game about my skill (when in reality I have better APM/mechanics than said players who claim to be "better" me in their insults).
Back to KR server :D Argghh! People still think APM = skill??I play on both NA and SEA, and for a while there NA was extremely full of BM, but it seems to have backed off now. It really bugs me though when people BM you after a match and they have their PM settings restricted to friends only. It makes me want to switch my PM settings like that, but at the same time I don't want to be antisocial because there are some good people out there that you meet randomly. I like how he has APM/ mechanics right there and you call him out for believing APM=skill. Mechanics are definitely a critical component of skill. APM in and of itself, while much less of a predictor of skill than mechanics, is still relevant because higher APM tends to correlate with better multitasking which is obviously a part of one's mechanics.
I'm not questioning the role of mechanics in one's skill level at all. But it is quite evident from what he said that he believes APM plays a significant role in skill.
Sure, APM may tend to correlate with better multitasking, but a tendency isn't enough to make it relevant.
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I don't personally think its the server specific which has more, but look at what most gamers in general do these days. They play on things such as xbox live which is nothing but BM and to feel socially accepted they BM as well in other games along with on the social servers. Its a socialogical thing and shows they are emotionally invested which is not only stupid but a weakness, in my opinon.
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So, NA gamers are sore losers? Or is it that they actually have personalities which are less reminiscent of door-mats?
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im not sure your one to decide if you had better apm/mechanics unless you know your drastically better T.T
i only bm people that bm me :O
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Maybe it is your playstyle. I'm a mid to high masters player on NA, and I almost never get BMed. People are actually very nice, but that is probably because i never cheese or do anything lame like that.
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there's a lot of BM in the korean server too (back when I played and I don't see why it'd be different now).
The key is to know how to swear and call them names in korean when they call you "canadian white man trash".
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Not sure if it's exactly BM but at least 50% of the people I play don't GG. Especially if I win with a pressure build or even timing attack. I don't have any experience with the other leagues though.
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Ya, BM can be really disheartening when you're trying to ladder. If I get bm a few games in a row I kinda lose my motivation. Especially, if its bm while the opponent is winning. Nothing irks me more than someone who is winning and decides to trash talk you in the process. I can grudingly understand when the loser bms, but when you're being bmed by the winner it feels really terrible. You already feel shitty when you lose, you don't need someone rubbing the shit in your face on top of that.
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Yep NA full of bm. That's pretty standard.
I've had some koreans bm me, or I can only assume it's bm from the wall of text in korean.
But it's w.e. I don't like it either but kr too laggy so I just deal with it. Once your mmr is high enough to play more gms it gets a bit more manner,
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Odd, I don't have this experience at all :o I play on EU and NA and I find that, while both are generally well-mannered, EU has slightly more BM, at least at my level.
Hell, I got cursed at in Russian the other day. I don't even remember the last time someone on NA BM'ed me.
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I only play SEA and NA but i find more bm on NA too. I don't really care anymore especially coz SEA is so cheery and happy place, if NA is tiring I just play SEA with many <3 in chat and then i feel better.
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Its the most BM, but only because we don't really have this game mean so much to us. When the pros cry when they lose, you can see that love for the game. I'm not saying we all should cry, but its obvious that especially around Bronze, and then again at dia-masters, people think they are good (yes in bronze i haven't the slightest idea why, but they do think that way) and therefore when they win, they can Halo teabag you via chat. When they lose, they think you cheesed, for whatever reason, and then they rage quit or just f10 + N it and leave without a gg (not really rage, just a quit). Notice how i'm using an indefinite they because I don't know the amount of people who do this, and i am not one of those people who do this so i can only speculate, but i think that is why.
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